Coronavirus Part II - Its arrived - We're Doomed!!! See OP for Mod warnings

turbbo

laurah591 wrote: »

I'm not getting into stats.... but i dont think you have any grounds to make that statement ....

You are missing my point. I'm not surprised.

Sigma101

Worldometers showing first case in Croatia now too. Can't find anything about it in the mainstream media yet.

pc7

BanditLuke wrote: »

Things look like they are out of control in Iran

https://twitter.com/eha_news/status/1232270017439371265

I shouldnt laugh but the headline reads like a Waterford Whisper

TomSweeney

I heard Croatia have a case too ... Sky News

Kermit.de.frog

BanditLuke wrote: »

Things look like they are out of control in Iran

https://twitter.com/eha_news/status/1232270017439371265

loLoLOL!!!!!!!!!!!

Kermit.de.frog

wakka12 wrote: »

https://apps.derstandard.at/privacywall/story/2000115000698/erster-positiver-test-auf-coronavirus-in-tirol?ref=article
First two positive cases in Austria

Austria will close the border with Italy now.

Graces7

Online rte news page article on a Public Health team meeting today; cannot link from here so could someone please

A lot of info

Mic 1972

Doctor Jimbob wrote: »

I'm not one of those very concerned about the virus, but it annoys me that many companies never seem willing to let people work from home until the last minute in situations like this. It seems like an easily implemented solution that would help at least somewhat with stopping the spread.

Exaclty, I don't how many people currently hold an office job in Dublin, I would imagine in the thousands. That's a lot of people who get the bus everyday, share an open plan for 8 hours with hundreds of others, shake hands with people who just landed from other cities. It is not a small portion of the problem

random_banter

Haven't seen this quoted in this thread yet but apologies if it has been. The Guardian posted an update to their live blog re: Ireland. Not huge news but maybe after this afternoon we will see more advice on flights etc and perhaps they will start testing as people arrive here? (Going by what the plan is in the UK...)

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Measures announced to delay arrival of coronavirus in Ireland
Rory Carroll

Irish authorities are expected to announce more stringent measures against coronavirus on Tuesday in an effort to delay what is considered its almost inevitable arrival in Ireland.

The National Public Health Emergency Team (NPHET) is to meet this afternoon to review preparations and recommendations related to travel and mass gatherings.

The outbreak in Italy has significantly increased the chance of a coronavirus case reaching Ireland, the health minister, Simon Harris, said on Monday. Ryanair shares tumbled 13% on the ISEQ index of Irish shares on Monday.

A Pro 14 rugby game between Ulster and Benetton, which was due to take place in the northern Italian city of Treviso on Saturday, has been postponed.

Ireland’s Six Nations game against Italy at Dublin’s Aviva stadium on 7 March – which is expected to draw up to 5,000 Italian visitors - is still scheduled to go ahead. That may change depending on whether Italy manages to contain its outbreak.

Organisers of an international James Joyce symposium in June in Trieste, northern Italy, told the Times they planned to go ahead in hope that by then the outbreak will be contained.

gozunda

BanditLuke wrote: »

Things look like they are out of control in Iran

https://twitter.com/eha_news/status/1232270017439371265

Iran's Deputy Health Minister Iraj Harirchi tests positive for #coronavirus, ILNA News Agency says

That was the same Minister who stated that:

In response, Iran’s Deputy Health Minister Iraj Harirchi denied the figures and said he would resign if Amirabadi Farhani's numbers were correct. “If the number of coronavirus victims in Qom is a quarter of what media outlets are reporting, I will resign. The figure is incorrect, and we are sure of our statistics,” he said.

https://english.alarabiya.net/en/News/middle-east/2020/02/24/Iranian-MP-50-dead-from-coronavirus-in-Qom-Health-Minister-to-blame-ILNA.html

brevity

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Nijmegen

wakka12 wrote: »

https://apps.derstandard.at/privacywall/story/2000115000698/erster-positiver-test-auf-coronavirus-in-tirol?ref=article
First two positive cases in Austria

Wonder where? If Tirol (as I make out from the URL) then likely Italy.

Incidentally UK health sec has said that people returning from northern Italy may need to self isolate, ala China. If that's occurring then you cannot justify for example keeping travel going and having big events like the rugby.

As for the Iranian deputy health minister contracting it, well they're screwed.

wakka12

38 more in Italy, close to 300 now
https://twitter.com/TgLa7/status/1232260190134833152
34 more in iran
https://twitter.com/SkyNewsArabia_B/status/1232239673096822784
South Korea very close to 1000
Feels like more new cases are occurring daily outside China than inside China now(apparently..)

ArmaniJeanss

Graces7 wrote: »

Online rte news page article on a Public Health team meeting today; cannot link from here so could someone please

A lot of info

https://www.rte.ie/news/ireland/2020/0225/1117449-europe-coronavirus/

Text of article.

The National Public Health Emergency Team will meet this afternoon to review the latest position on Covid-19 and Ireland's preparations.
Authorities are awaiting advice from the European Centre for Disease Control and Prevention in the wake of seven deaths from the virus in Italy.
The north of Italy has become a new frontline in the fight against the coronavirus with 220 cases reported yesterday, rising from just three on Friday.
Fresh travel advice may be issued along with guidance on major gatherings and further direction for people coming back from infected areas.
No decisions have been made yet on these issues.
The latest figures from the European Centre for Disease Control and Prevention show that there have been over 80,000 cases of the coronavirus and there have been 2,698 deaths.
The number of cases in Europe is 276.
But the World Health Organization has said the epidemic in China peaked between 23 January and 2 February and has been declining since.

Fast-spreading outbreaks in Iran and South Korea, and first cases in several countries in the Middle East, have fed worries of a pandemic.
South Korea has the most virus cases in Asia outside China and reported its ninth death and 60 new cases, for a total of 893.
Meanwhile, the rugby Pro 14 game between Ulster and Benetton, which was due to take place in Treviso on Saturday, has been postponed.
The IRFU has said the Six Nations games against Italy in Ireland on 7 March is set to go ahead as scheduled.
It said it will follow Government advice in relation to the virus.
The CEO of Consumers Association Ireland said people will be entitled to a refund or re-routing if travel plans within the EU are disrupted as a result of the coronavirus outbreak.
Dermot Jewell said there were great protections within the EU, but outside of this jurisdiction, passengers need to engage with all of the parties involved in their travel, such as airlines and hotels.
Speaking on RTÉ's Morning Ireland, Mr Jewell said this was a learning experience for everyone.
Separately, two Irish athletes who were due to take part in the 'World Series Italia' event at Lignano, which is north of Venice, have been told the swim competition has been cancelled.
A spokesperson for Paralympics Ireland said they were told the event had been cancelled "on the advice of the Local Region and the Italian Para Swimming Federation in response to the recent spread of the Covid-19 virus in Northern Italy".
Britain said people who had visited northern Italy should self isolate if they had any flu-like symptoms.
"The official advice ... that those who have been to northern Italy - that is essentially anybody who has been to Italy north of Pisa - should, if they have flu-like symptoms, self isolate," Health Secretary Matt Hancock said.
"If people have been to the affected areas that the Italian government has quarantined, then they should self isolate whether or not they have symptoms," Mr Hancock said.

Employment Law Specialist Richard Grogan has said employers are not obliged to pay employees if the worker, who has returned from an area with a coronavirus outbreak, decides to stay at home as a safety precaution.
However he told RTÉ's Today with Sean O'Rourke that in reality, from a health and safety perspective, employers should tell at risk or sick staff to stay at home.
This, he said, is just good business because no one wants their entire workforce to get sick.
Mr Grogan said that if a staff member has visited Wuhan in China or somewhere in northern Italy, they should let their employer know.
In those instances, he said, he imagined that employers would encourage employees to self-isolate.
He cautioned against telling Chinese or Italian staff members to stay at home, saying this could be seen as discrimination.
He said that employers need to get their "policies out there" for staff to see - including sick and health policies.
He said isolating someone in the workplace who has returned from an area with coronavirus is a very dangerous thing for an employer to do.
However, employers could ask staff members in these situations to take precautions, such as wearing a mask.
Mr Grogan said employers could warn employees intending to travel to areas with a coronavirus outbreak, such as Northern Italy, that they may be unable to allow them to return to the workplace after the holiday, because it would be a health and safety risk.

Runaways

brevity wrote: »

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Dust masks are no good against a virus.

Unisex tho. Oooooh!!

odyssey06

wakka12 wrote: »

38 more in Italy, close to 300 now
https://twitter.com/TgLa7/status/1232260190134833152
South Korea very close to 1000
Now more new daily cases outside China than inside China(apparently..)

Unbelievably.

tara73

Tenzor07 wrote: »

Dust masks used by construction workers won't protect you from anything, apart from breathing in dust from working on a building site.

is it like that? I was wondering about that too as I have some in stock for DIY work. I thought they might be better thn this typical masks as they close around your face kind of properly. but yes, you breathe in air, so a virus most probably gets through it directly.

Graces7

Graces7 wrote: »

Online rte news page article on a Public Health team meeting today; cannot link from here so could someone please

A lot of info

Grace are you using a phone or laptop/pc?

TomSweeney

Getting crazy ...

Mic 1972

wakka12 wrote: »

Feels like more new cases are occurring daily outside China than inside China now(apparently..)

that's the magic of non testing people

Tenzor07

brevity wrote: »

20 Pack N95 Dust Mask Disposable, Respirator Face Mouth Masks with Exhalation Valve 5 Layer Activated Carbon Air Filter Adjustable Nosepiece

I'd almost buy shares in the company which makes the N95 mask as it appears to be the most effective in filtering out virus particles.
Only issue with them will be that for someone who's breathing isn't great like COPD sufferers for example, it will restrict them further.
It also has to be put on and removed in a certain way also...

4068ac1elhodqr

Runaways wrote: »

Point of the story is there are almost no masks available commercially Over the counter that will prevent an infection from such a virus.
Save your money.

Agree, and besides even many decent ones (inc N95) are only good for particles down to about 0.3 microns.
They are only somewhat 'slightly useful' in that they may prevent you unconsciously touching the face as much.

Even better might be the DIY water bottle (with small vents), combined along with some DIY (washable fabric) face mask, or the very cheap(est) dust mask.



Likewise a simple clear plastic splash screen, (again with any type of masks/scarf/snood), may 'reduce projected velocity particle contact' (sneezes etc).

Imagine greatest risk is any crowded static environment (public transport or queuing for hours like those headers in S.Kor), when people are sneezing/coughing droplets or aerosols. And of course, touching of any shared surfaces, products or cash.

ldy4mxonucwsq6

brevity wrote: »

20 Pack N95 Dust Mask Disposable, Respirator Face Mouth Masks with Exhalation Valve 5 Layer Activated Carbon Air Filter Adjustable Nosepiece Unisex Fold Flat Dust Masks https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B07PNKHJ6C/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_i_EQqvEb409JGQ1

They ship from China....

odyssey06

A case in Palermo in southern Italy now, someone visiting from northern Italy:
https://www.thejournal.ie/government-travellers-italy-coronavirus-covid-19-ireland-six-nations-5020530-Feb2020/

Tenzor07

tara73 wrote: »

is it like that? I was wondering about that too as I have some in stock for DIY work. I thought they might be better thn this typical masks as they close around your face kind of properly. but yes, you breathe in air, so a virus most probably gets through it directly.

Wasting your time and the cost of the masks, the particle size they can filter just isn't good enough for virus protection.

Similar with surgical masks, the virus particles can go around the edges of the mask, and when you take them off with your hands and then touch your nose, eyes or mouth then you're exposing yourself to the virus which may have been present on the single use surgical mask.

Duke of Url

Teresa Muscular Mimicry wrote: »

Agree, and besides even many decent ones (inc N95) are only good for particles down to about 0.3 microns.
They are only somewhat 'slightly useful' in that they may prevent you unconsciously touching the face as much.

Even better might be the DIY water bottle (with small vents), combined along with some DIY (washable fabric) face mask, or the very cheap(est) dust mask.



Likewise a simple clear plastic splash screen, (again with any type of masks/scarf/snood), may 'reduce projected velocity particle contact' (sneezes etc).

Imagine greatest risk is any crowded static environment (public transport or queuing for hours like those headers in S.Kor), when people are sneezing/coughing droplets or aerosols. And of course, touching of any shared surfaces, products or cash.

Im selling these COVID19 protection suits if anyone is interested.

There hasn’t been a report on David & Sally Abel for 2 days now. I really hope they’re gonna pull through.

pc7

Strawberry Milkshake wrote: »

There hasn’t been a report on David & Sally Abel for 2 days now. I really hope they’re gonna pull through.

Just found this, I don't have sound but hopefully it is saying all good



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zTyX-YJPPgw

BanditLuke

This is Iranian deputy health minister yesterday

https://twitter.com/i/status/1232274937936781312

eviltimeban

odyssey06 wrote: »

A case in Palermo in southern Italy now, someone visiting from northern Italy:
https://www.thejournal.ie/government-travellers-italy-coronavirus-covid-19-ireland-six-nations-5020530-Feb2020/

Hence my query about travelling to Rome this weekend.