FE1 Exam Thread (Read 1st post!) NOTE: YOU MAY SWAP EXAM GRIDS

EmmaO94

Guys out of Constitutional & Tort, which paper is more doable with limited study time? (I know both are nasty but wondering which is the lesser of two evils!)

Iso_123

EmmaO94 wrote: »

Guys out of Constitutional & Tort, which paper is more doable with limited study time? (I know both are nasty but wondering which is the lesser of two evils!)

I would probably say Tort is more doable in a shorter time span but they're not far off each other in terms of volume.. I did Tort in August(was meant to do it in March) and I am currently studying for Constitutional in October and feel a bit more overwhelmed by Constitutional I must say.. Such a mammoth course:(

LS3

FE1Rookie wrote: »

Ah here lads as rubbish a feeling it is, if ye fail the exam just resit it in March. What's the rush? Postponing all 8 exams just for a few people that failed is ridiculous.

Do ye not think of how that'll mess things up delaying the inevitable with 1. the virus and 2. people doing the hybrid. Like sorry but a solid 80% of people who signed this petition will end up passing and will not care less about delaying the Oct sitting. It's very self centered to not even consider those who start in December for the hybrid. It's reckless and simply asking for trouble with the coronavirus (we should be grateful we can sit them at all physically in October please god. lets not tempt fate). Another point is a lot of people will have rightly made arrangements to get time off work, booked hotels and train tickets for the October exams. Obviously some people will have waited, like myself, to see where the venue is etc. Either way I've had to book time off and g'luck getting it moved to Novemeber for me.

If ya get 40%+ then just submit it for a recheck, forget about it, and focus on the exams you're planning to sit the following week. If ya got less than 40% then you obviously didn't do enough work to pass it and you'll need more than a month between the 28th of Sep and this imaginary November sitting to raise your grade by 11 marks more in order to pass. Altogether there is no harm just sitting it in March if you fail, you'll have a hell of a lot more time to see where you went wrong and how to get your grade up by that amount.

If that doesn't resonate with you then think about how messy this has all been ever since March because one exam was delayed. ONE. Lets not even entertain postponing EIGHT exams. Next thing you'll know the very same people will be moaning about how long these results are taking. They certainly won't have it done in time for Xmas. Most likely it would end up being January when you find out - and we do this all over again but much worse because it's all 8 exams instead of 1.

I agree with you regarding postponing the exams. I just think that the results should be released sooner than the 28th. Even if they emailed people their results one by one as they are corrected. If you dont try you wont know. This whole thing has been a **** show from start to finish and everyones anxiety is not the better of it.

Kitty_anne

yipyop wrote: »

If anybody has the March 2020 Equity or Company papers would be much appreciated! Have a good few bits I can send in return.

Have both papers, do you have an equity grid?

Coopie

LS3 wrote: »

I agree with you regarding postponing the exams. I just think that the results should be released sooner than the 28th. Even if they emailed people their results one by one as they are corrected. If you dont try you wont know. This whole thing has been a **** show from start to finish and everyones anxiety is not the better of it.

I think that the law society should email people their results one by one as they are corrected too.

Lallers96

LS3 wrote: »

I agree with you regarding postponing the exams. I just think that the results should be released sooner than the 28th. Even if they emailed people their results one by one as they are corrected. If you dont try you wont know. This whole thing has been a **** show from start to finish and everyones anxiety is not the better of it.

I'm as impatient as the rest of you to get them too, trust me. I'd like to get my result quicker but as soon as you start doing something like that, the very same people who want everything their way, ala this petition, will be up in arms "why didn't mine get marked first??". There's just no fair way of doing this. The August sitting was a special case and while this is a stressful time for us students you have to understand that it is also a stressful time for examiners to be working at 110% speed, with mounting pressure to go faster than humanely possible. There is no chance that they are taking their time with this, I wholly believe that they gave us the earliest date they possibly could - even if that is extremely close to the usual October sitting.

LawStudent96

I presume the October application form hasn't been published yet and it's not just me that can't see it on the website?

LawNotes123

Does anyone have up to date Criminal or Equity grids?

I can swap them for Tort, Property or Contract.

lawgirl23

LawStudent96 wrote: »

I presume the October application form hasn't been published yet and it's not just me that can't see it on the website?

Same for me - FE-1 page on Law Society website just says it will be available shortly.

Debarramike137

rightytighty wrote: »

It’s the easiest one by a mile, you can pretty much cover the whole course in the time it’d take you to partially cover another

fantastic!! I had the manual, so said I may as well do it. thanks a lot

Lawlaw12

FE1Rookie wrote: »

Ah here lads as rubbish a feeling it is, if ye fail the exam just resit it in March. What's the rush? Postponing all 8 exams just for a few people that failed is ridiculous.

Do ye not think of how that'll mess things up delaying the inevitable with 1. the virus and 2. people doing the hybrid. Like sorry but a solid 80% of people who signed this petition will end up passing and will not care less about delaying the Oct sitting. It's very self centered to not even consider those who start in December for the hybrid. It's reckless and simply asking for trouble with the coronavirus (we should be grateful we can sit them at all physically in October please god. lets not tempt fate). Another point is a lot of people will have rightly made arrangements to get time off work, booked hotels and train tickets for the October exams. Obviously some people will have waited, like myself, to see where the venue is etc. Either way I've had to book time off and g'luck getting it moved to Novemeber for me.

If ya get 40%+ then just submit it for a recheck, forget about it, and focus on the exams you're planning to sit the following week. If ya got less than 40% then you obviously didn't do enough work to pass it and you'll need more than a month between the 28th of Sep and this imaginary November sitting to raise your grade by 11 marks more in order to pass. Altogether there is no harm just sitting it in March if you fail, you'll have a hell of a lot more time to see where you went wrong and how to get your grade up by that amount.

If that doesn't resonate with you then think about how messy this has all been ever since March because one exam was delayed. ONE. Lets not even entertain postponing EIGHT exams. Next thing you'll know the very same people will be moaning about how long these results are taking. They certainly won't have it done in time for Xmas. Most likely it would end up being January when you find out - and we do this all over again but much worse because it's all 8 exams instead of 1.

Have you looked at the petition? It suggests 3 options which include (1) releasing results earlier or (2) an additional sitting in November for anyone who failed in August (this sitting would not affect anyone else or delay anyone else's exams). I don’t know who made this petition, but I assume the majority of people who signed it want either of those two options and not the alternative option of postponing the whole October set.

It don't think it is selfish at all to want a fair opportunity to repeat an exam that we registered to sit in March and the law society took 5 months to reschedule. It has already been stated here that a lot of candidates do not have the opportunity to repeat in March 2021. We have deadlines in our training contracts or have a cap on the number of sittings allowed under our contracts, October 2020 being the last sitting available to us. So no, we will not “just resit it in March”.
And it is not self-centred and inconsiderate of those starting the hybrid in December, as an additional sitting of Tort/ EU in November would not affect them in the October sitting, nor would releasing the August results earlier?

You have posted here previously saying that you are in no rush to sit get them finished, and that is fine, but please be considerate of the circumstances in which other people are sitting these exams. For people like you who are still early on in their FE1's and are not in a rush to get the exams finished you may not understand that a lot of us are seriously affected by this and are being left at risk of losing our Training Contracts if we have not passed Tort and EU in August.
You do not know the situations of everyone sitting these exams, so please stop posting calling people selfish just because this is not effecting you the way it is effecting other people.

Costello95

Has anyone narrowed down what they are learning for Company and Constitutional? Can give Criminal and Company March papers in return 😊

Lallers96

Lawlaw12 wrote: »

Have you looked at the petition? It suggests 3 options

There are 3 options, however there is no way to sign it without agreeing with all the options, which is flawed. I won't sign it because I do not like some options at all.

FE1Rookie

Lawlaw12 wrote: »

Have you looked at the petition? It suggests 3 options which include (1) releasing results earlier or (2) an additional sitting in November for anyone who failed in August (this sitting would not affect anyone else or delay anyone else's exams). I don’t know who made this petition, but I assume the majority of people who signed it want either of those two options and not the alternative option of postponing the whole October set.

It don't think it is selfish at all to want a fair opportunity to repeat an exam that we registered to sit in March and the law society took 5 months to reschedule. It has already been stated here that a lot of candidates do not have the opportunity to repeat in March 2021. We have deadlines in our training contracts or have a cap on the number of sittings allowed under our contracts, October 2020 being the last sitting available to us. So no, we will not “just resit it in March”.
And it is not self-centred and inconsiderate of those starting the hybrid in December, as an additional sitting of Tort/ EU in November would not affect them in the October sitting, nor would releasing the August results earlier?

You have posted here previously saying that you are in no rush to sit get them finished, and that is fine, but please be considerate of the circumstances in which other people are sitting these exams. For people like you who are still early on in their FE1's and are not in a rush to get the exams finished you may not understand that a lot of us are seriously affected by this and are being left at risk of losing our Training Contracts if we have not passed Tort and EU in August.
You do not know the situations of everyone sitting these exams, so please stop posting calling people selfish just because this is not effecting you the way it is effecting other people.

OK ill bite. First off I have to say, if you are not part of the solution, you are part of the problem.

That petition does not present actionable solutions. It presents a set of wishes. Number 1, is magically bring forward the results - nowhere do they suggest HOW the law society will manage to do so. This "suggestion" assumes that the law society isn't doing its best already, which is quite a wild claim.

Number 2 then is an extra sitting in November. Why? You can do it in March, its going to count as another sitting on its own then which will work against some peoples TC clauses. If you got sub-40 in Tort then how do you expect to up your grade by at least 11 marks in less than a month after the normal October sitting. You have contradicted yourself here. If there is a November sitting for those who failed Tort then it's a sitting of its own and will put people over their cap as you quite rightly pointed out..

If you have been one of the people who applied in March then you had 5 months to study and I'm sorry but you should be passing it if you've got that mountain of time to do 1 exam.

You are quite wrong about this not affecting those starting the hybrid. If they have failed, and go to resit in November they will not get their result in time for the hybrid, which is the problem we LITERALLY JUST HAD where they had to expedite results for a select few, and left the rest for almost a month later. So as I said in my OC, January the earliest for everyone who is doing this imaginary Nov sitting but is not doing the hybrid. And then what happens? Another bloody petition.

Law2020

Hi Guys,

Does anyone have up to date sample answers for Constitutional Law? <snip - no trading.>

Aoibhin511

FE1Rookie wrote: »

OK ill bite. First off I have to say, if you are not part of the solution, you are part of the problem.

That petition does not present actionable solutions. It presents a set of wishes. Number 1, is magically bring forward the results - nowhere do they suggest HOW the law society will manage to do so. This "suggestion" assumes that the law society isn't doing its best already, which is quite a wild claim.

Number 2 then is an extra sitting in November. Why? You can do it in March, its going to count as another sitting on its own then which will work against some peoples TC clauses. If you got sub-40 in Tort then how do you expect to up your grade by at least 11 marks in less than a month after the normal October sitting. You have contradicted yourself here. If there is a November sitting for those who failed Tort then it's a sitting of its own and will put people over their cap as you quite rightly pointed out..

If you have been one of the people who applied in March then you had 5 months to study and I'm sorry but you should be passing it if you've got that mountain of time to do 1 exam.

You are quite wrong about this not affecting those starting the hybrid. If they have failed, and go to resit in November they will not get their result in time for the hybrid, which is the problem we LITERALLY JUST HAD where they had to expedite results for a select few, and left the rest for almost a month later. So as I said in my OC, January the earliest for everyone who is doing this imaginary Nov sitting but is not doing the hybrid. And then what happens? Another bloody petition.

Can we please stop bickering in this thread, take it up in each others PMs if you must. This thread is for getting help and sharing info. Long arguments are downing out people's genuine requests for help and materials.
If you want to sign the petition do that, if you don't, don't.

Lawlaw12

FE1Rookie wrote: »

If you have been one of the people who applied in March then you had 5 months to study and I'm sorry but you should be passing it if you've got that mountain of time to do 1 exam.

You have no idea what I was doing between March and August. I have never said that I was free to study that whole time.

FE1Rookie wrote: »

You are quite wrong about this not affecting those starting the hybrid. If they have failed, and go to resit in November they will not get their result in time for the hybrid, which is the problem we LITERALLY JUST HAD where they had to expedite results for a select few, and left the rest for almost a month later. So as I said in my OC, January the earliest for everyone who is doing this imaginary Nov sitting but is not doing the hybrid. And then what happens? Another bloody petition.

To be honest, I think you have actually misunderstood what we are asking for. An additional November sitting of Tort and EU would be “additional” to the October sitting. The sittings would be as follows:
October – all 8 exams
November – a sitting of Tort & EU
March 2021 – all 8 exams
Therefore, if someone is applying for the hybrid, they would sit their remaining exams in October as they have been planning (that sitting would still be available to them, nothing would change in that respect). The November sitting would not effect them in any way?

I’m going to leave it there, so this thread can remain on-topic.

LTFL1804

Could I please have these sample answers too? <snip - no trading.>

Law2020 wrote: »

Hi Guys,

Does anyone have up to date sample answers for Constitutional Law? <snip - no trading.>

IgoPAP

I should note that I used sample answers from Griffith for Tort and they are not useful at all. They don't even properly answer the questions posed and does not reflect the length or type of answer expected in the exam.

legallyginger

IgoPAP wrote: »

I should note that I used sample answers from Griffith for Tort and they are not useful at all. They don't even properly answer the questions posed and does not reflect the length or type of answer expected in the exam.

I found the same for contract, has caused great confusion!

Liordi

Yeah, the sample answers I have for contract & property do not seem helpful at all and I'm not going to use them as study material.

Fe1student1234

IgoPAP wrote: »

I should note that I used sample answers from Griffith for Tort and they are not useful at all. They don't even properly answer the questions posed and does not reflect the length or type of answer expected in the exam.

Yes they weren’t great at all.
Company ones were much better

thelaw

Dear fellow FE-1 Candidates,

I would be very grateful if anybody would have either Equity, and or Constitutional law exam papers from the March 2020 sittings. In return I can send on any 2019 paper on any subject for both Spring, and Autumn.

Many thanks.

Lealaw

Costello95 wrote: »

Has anyone narrowed down what they are learning for Company and Constitutional? Can give Criminal and Company March papers in return &#55357;&#56842;

I would really appreciate the Criminal March paper if you wouldn't mind sharing? I unfortunately am not doing company or constitutional yet only EU.

aisoburke1994

FE1Rookie wrote: »

OK ill bite. First off I have to say, if you are not part of the solution, you are part of the problem.

That petition does not present actionable solutions. It presents a set of wishes. Number 1, is magically bring forward the results - nowhere do they suggest HOW the law society will manage to do so. This "suggestion" assumes that the law society isn't doing its best already, which is quite a wild claim.

Number 2 then is an extra sitting in November. Why? You can do it in March, its going to count as another sitting on its own then which will work against some peoples TC clauses. If you got sub-40 in Tort then how do you expect to up your grade by at least 11 marks in less than a month after the normal October sitting. You have contradicted yourself here. If there is a November sitting for those who failed Tort then it's a sitting of its own and will put people over their cap as you quite rightly pointed out..

If you have been one of the people who applied in March then you had 5 months to study and I'm sorry but you should be passing it if you've got that mountain of time to do 1 exam.

You are quite wrong about this not affecting those starting the hybrid. If they have failed, and go to resit in November they will not get their result in time for the hybrid, which is the problem we LITERALLY JUST HAD where they had to expedite results for a select few, and left the rest for almost a month later. So as I said in my OC, January the earliest for everyone who is doing this imaginary Nov sitting but is not doing the hybrid. And then what happens? Another bloody petition.

FE1Rookie stop berating people online. This is a site that is supposed to help students and assist law students pass their exams.
You are just hiding behind your screen and being unreasonably mean to students who are in the same boat as yourself - wanting to pass their FE1s and having a fair opportunity to do so.

niamh1612

Hey guys I would really appreciate some advise on this- I have 4 exams left Tort, Constitutional, Company and EU. Over the next two sittings, which of the above would people advise to leave until next March, I have most the ground work done in EU so I would prefer to get that done this October. I don’t want to leave myself with a ridiculously hard exam to sit for the first time in mar ch? Any words of wisdom hugely appreciated !

Al1501

niamh1612 wrote: »

Hey guys I would really appreciate some advise on this- I have 4 exams left Tort, Constitutional, Company and EU. Over the next two sittings, which of the above would people advise to leave until next March, I have most the ground work done in EU so I would prefer to get that done this October. I don’t want to leave myself with a ridiculously hard exam to sit for the first time in mar ch? Any words of wisdom hugely appreciated !

I get the impression that of those four, company would be the shortest and easiest, then tort, then EU, and that Constitutional is the hardest.

lawgrad15

If I was in your position, I would leave constitutional until March. It's not that it's super difficult, it's more so that there's a huge amount to learn.

I would definitely do EU seeing that you seem to know it well and company too as it's not the most difficult.

Tort is also quite a broad course too.

lawDani

Aoibhin511 wrote: »

Can we please stop bickering in this thread, take it up in each others PMs if you must. This thread is for getting help and sharing info. Long arguments are downing out people's genuine requests for help and materials.
If you want to sign the petition do that, if you don't, don't.

yes. this makes me sad. we have enough trauma and turmoil going on with just studying for these let alone arguing with people in the same boat, please lets not be taking on out on the people who know what we're experiencing!
#oneloveyo

Louis Litt

niamh1612 wrote: »

Hey guys I would really appreciate some advise on this- I have 4 exams left Tort, Constitutional, Company and EU. Over the next two sittings, which of the above would people advise to leave until next March, I have most the ground work done in EU so I would prefer to get that done this October. I don’t want to leave myself with a ridiculously hard exam to sit for the first time in mar ch? Any words of wisdom hugely appreciated !

Split Tort and Constitutional over seperate sittings. By far the largest topics. I just sat Tort and EU and it was a ok paring.