Greta Thunberg (Continued...)

Loafing Oaf

blinding wrote: »

Was it a Health Farm that killed Millions and Millions and Millions of People ! !:eek::eek:

storker wrote: »

...and assisted with the carve-up of Poland in cooperation with the Germans, following that up by murdering over 20,000 poles, and invaded his smaller neighbour Finland (getting a bloody nose in the process) and sat back and watched from the far side of the Vistula in 1944 while Warsaw was razed and the Polish home army defeated, and criminalised Soviet POWs liberated from the Germans. Yeah we could learn a lot from Stalin alright, with "how to be a paranoid psychopathic mass murderer" up there at the top of the list.

I believe the poster you guys are engaging with is extracting the urine

Paddygreen wrote: »

I am gender fluid leaning towards non-binary. I am so ashamed I look like a white/pink western European man that I have spent a small fortune on subbed sessions and spray tans.

storker

Loafing Oaf wrote: »

I believe the poster you guys are engaging with is extracting the urine

Ah, that would make a lot more sense. But I've had discussions with people who genuinely hold not dissimilar views, so I'll plead Poe's Law.

Loafing Oaf

storker wrote: »

Ah, that would make a lot more sense. But I've had discussions with people who genuinely hold not dissimilar views, so I'll plead Poe's Law.

For confirmation, check out some of his contributions to the Relaxation of Restrictions thread in the Coronavirus subforum:

Yeah, I am losing my mind with these people when I see them in my estate. They are taking advantage of the fact that we have a substantial green area. I know that they are outsiders from beyond the 2km radius who have no business here. You had better get used to concerned citizens like me hollering from their windows if you are beyond your permitted area. I usually say "you're not from around here" and "excuse me, what's your eircode" and if no response I will remind them of the rules laid down by experts.

Eric Cartman

NMHS wrote: »

I'm sorry, I don't see a point in there.

People on the dole are the only ones that can afford to pay a tax, the rest of us are overburdened to the hilt by existing taxes

Pa ElGrande

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zk11vI-7czE

Michael Moore presents Planet of the Humans, a documentary that dares to say what no one else will this Earth Day — that we are losing the battle to stop climate change on planet earth because we are following leaders who have taken us down the wrong road — selling out the green movement to wealthy interests and corporate America. This film is the wake-up call to the reality we are afraid to face: that in the midst of a human-caused extinction event, the environmental movement’s answer is to push for techno-fixes and band-aids. It's too little, too late.

Removed from the debate is the only thing that MIGHT save us: getting a grip on our out-of-control human presence and consumption. Why is this not THE issue? Because that would be bad for profits, bad for business. Have we environmentalists fallen for illusions, “green” illusions, that are anything but green, because we’re scared that this is the end—and we’ve pinned all our hopes on biomass, wind turbines, and electric cars?

No amount of batteries are going to save us, warns director Jeff Gibbs (lifelong environmentalist and co-producer of “Fahrenheit 9/11” and “Bowling for Columbine"). This urgent, must-see movie, a full-frontal assault on our sacred cows, is guaranteed to generate anger, debate, and, hopefully, a willingness to see our survival in a new way—before it’s too late.

Featuring: Al Gore, Bill McKibben, Richard Branson, Robert F Kennedy Jr., Michael Bloomberg, Van Jones, Vinod Khosla, Koch Brothers, Vandana Shiva, General Motors, 350.org, Arnold Schwarzenegger, Sierra Club, the Union of Concerned Scientists, Nature Conservancy, Elon Musk, Tesla.

Richard Branson will allegedly spend $3 billion to fight global warming! Then Branson, sitting next to @AlGore, is asked “Is Al Gore a prophet?” Branson replies “How do you spell “prophet”"? [Profit!!!] Everyone laughs! (sequence at 9 minutes and 30 seconds in)

same branson that needs tax funded bailouts so that he can stay a billionaire with fine ideals?

must be ****in nice being as special as that

environmental protection has to be accelerated, but the how, and who directs it and why, are vital questions

and anyone who tries to shout down any questions deserves none of your attention thereafter

and thats the greta spearheaded campaign approach

no thanks

AlekSmart

Deleted User wrote: »

same branson that needs tax funded bailouts so that he can stay a billionaire with fine ideals?

must be ****in nice being as special as that

environmental protection has to be accelerated, but the how, and who directs it and why, are vital questions

and anyone who tries to shout down any questions deserves none of your attention thereafter

and thats the greta spearheaded campaign approach

no thanks

It appears that after a brief lacuna to realign the ray-gun,Greta and her team are back !

This chapter sees a subtle but interesting shimmy from the original single barrell weapon.

The BBC News app was reporting on the relaunch earlier,but the piece has somehow slipped off their main feed....however it is on the Newsround portal.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/newsround/52484801

It appears that Greta's focus is now to ensure that the original Climate Change gig is seamlessly merged with a broad Childrens Rights campaign,presumably to generate further opportunities for publicity and perhaps funding ?

"Like the climate crisis, the coronavirus pandemic is a child rights crisis. It will affect all children, now and in the long term, but vulnerable groups will be impacted the most," Thunberg said in a statement.

It appears that Ms Thunberg won $US 100,000,presumably in a competition of some sort run by this NGO.... https://humanact.org/about/team has decided to donate this money to UNICEF,a gesture now matched by the Competition Organizers,so UNICEF is now $200,000 to the good.

With UNICEF's 2018 Income reaching $6.7 Billion,and it's need to cater for an ever broadening range of issues,every donation obviously helps.

https://www.unicef.org/reports/compendium-of-resource-partner-contributions-2018

The Competion Organizers themselves appear to have considerable synergies with the goals of UNICEF,so it looks like a funding success at minimum ?

Still,I can see the need for a renewed focus here,as the Covid issue had somewhat lessened the stridency of Ms Thunberg's single-track campaign.

All that remains now,is for the removal of the more restrictive "Lockdowns",which might allow for some further inventive inniatives to really get the campaigning going again ?

biko

These people have their old lefty agenda they are simply trying to marry into the more popular environment movement.

As Greta said:

After all, the climate crisis is not just about the environment.
...
Colonial, racist, and patriarchal systems of oppression have created and fueled it.
We need to dismantle them all.

https://www.irishexaminer.com/breakingnews/views/analysis/greta-thunberg-we-strike-because-we-have-to-not-because-we-want-to-967511.html

AlekSmart

biko wrote: »

These people have their old lefty agenda they are simply trying to marry into the more popular environment movement.

As Greta said:

https://www.irishexaminer.com/breakingnews/views/analysis/greta-thunberg-we-strike-because-we-have-to-not-because-we-want-to-967511.html

Thats about the Top & Bottom of it alright.

Today's Thunberg Tidbit,interestingly sees Ms Thunberg join forces with 15 other children to "push forward" a legal complaint at the United Nations,against Countries they say,are endangering Childrens wellbeing.

https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2020/may/05/greta-thunberg-and-childrens-group-hit-back-at-attempt-to-throw-out-climate-case

With the United Nations appearing almost in thrall to Ms Thunberg in relation to any opinion she puts forward,it may well be simply a Consciousness Raising stunt,at a time when it's badly needed ?

On the one hand it should be encouraging that "Children" are managing to display such an awareness of their entitlements,but it could easily also be about a bit of empire building on the part of somne savvy adults ?

Although 140 countries, excluding the US, have ratified the UN convention on the rights of the child, only 46 governments have adopted a protocol that allows for this kind of legal action. Of those, the five biggest greenhouse gas emitters – Argentina, Brazil, France, Germany and Turkey – are targeted in the lawsuit, which has been brought by the children with the backing of the green campaigning group Earthjustice and the international law firm Hausfeld.

There has been no decision yet from the UN committee on whether to hear the legal complaint.

In this case the "Children" appear to have palled up with some fairly well resourced entities....

https://earthjustice.org/about

One of those peculiarly American entities...the Non-Profit organization....

Although....their 2019 accounts show an income of c.$US 111,000,000 and outgoings of c.$85,000,000 and a reported "Change in Net Assets" of c.$25,500,000

It may not be profit,but it's a few bob left over just in case.

The other 'backer' is a substantial Law Firm with admirable Green credentials too....

https://www.hausfeld.com/our-people/all

https://www.hausfeld.com/news-press/three-big-emitting-countries-fail-to-protect-children-from-direct-imminent-and-irreversible-climate-risks

The petitioners are between the ages of 8 and 17 and come from Argentina, Brazil, France, Germany, India, Palau, the Marshall Islands, Nigeria, South Africa, Sweden, Tunisia and the United States. They include Swedish climate activist Greta Thunberg, who sparked the global youth climate movement in 2018, and Alexandria Villaseñor, who was inspired by Greta and co-founded the U.S. Youth Climate Strike

.

So there we have it for today.....let's hope there's a tomorrow

Jimmy Garlic

biko wrote: »

These people have their old lefty agenda they are simply trying to marry into the more popular environment movement.

As Greta said:

https://www.irishexaminer.com/breakingnews/views/analysis/greta-thunberg-we-strike-because-we-have-to-not-because-we-want-to-967511.html

Very much on the hardcore bat flu bandwagon too and in the process of interlocking it with climate change. A faster route to the heavily restrictive digital communist nanny state they want to impose on the little people.

Eric Cartman

biko wrote: »

These people have their old lefty agenda they are simply trying to marry into the more popular environment movement.

As Greta said:

https://www.irishexaminer.com/breakingnews/views/analysis/greta-thunberg-we-strike-because-we-have-to-not-because-we-want-to-967511.html

How anyone can see her as any more than a puppet of a heavily funded left wing political agenda is beyond me.

randd1

Pa ElGrande wrote: »

Richard Branson will allegedly spend $3 billion to fight global warming! Then Branson, sitting next to @AlGore, is asked “Is Al Gore a prophet?” Branson replies “How do you spell “prophet”"? [Profit!!!] Everyone laughs! (sequence at 9 minutes and 30 seconds in)

His €3billion to fight Global warming? He took the €3billion from the Virgin Group, and gave it to Virgin Airlines to fund fuel efficiency.

Basically, he took the money from his front pocket, put it in his back pocket and hoped by putting it there, a little bit more money would appear in his front pocket.

Paddygreen

Eric Cartman wrote: »

How anyone can see her as any more than a puppet of a heavily funded left wing political agenda is beyond me.

Greta is absolutely 110% a grassroots activist. You are disparaging her because you love Big Oil.

Paddygreen

Btw guys (the vast majority who believe the bulletproof scientific consensus) step it up. The coronavirus crisis is not an excuse to slack off and stop raising awareness about the climate change emergency. I am starting to see cobwebs on all the climate change threads.

biko

Greta is now on CNNs Covid panel, I'm not even joking

ricero

****ing hell CNN really are a joke

Plumbthedepths

biko wrote: »

Greta is now on CNNs Covid panel, I'm not even joking

'How dare you'.

Paddygreen

Wise move by CNN. Great to see Greta on such a prestigious network. Research suggests the bats in China wouldn’t have gotten sick if it wasn’t for man made climate change. As a side note we should lock in the best parts of the lockdown as part of the war on climate change, travel restrictions reduce our carbon footprint guys.

AlekSmart

biko wrote: »

Greta is now on CNNs Covid panel, I'm not even joking

Things must be bad out at CNN Tower....a lot of "Formers" on that oul panel,not to mention that Dear old Donald has cornered the market in Town Hall appearances over in 'Merika these days.

I just keep seeing the activist formerly known as Greta....:D

My name is Greta and I want stuff NOW !!!

Tell me how

Greta giving a shout out to all her fans on Boards.

https://twitter.com/GretaThunberg/status/1260920666385235969

Fingers crossed that one outcome of this whole covid thing is people respect what scientists are saying and recognizing that bullsh*tting about how prepared you are when you aren't really just doesn't cut it.

AlekSmart

Tell me how wrote: »

Greta giving a shout out to all her fans on Boards.

https://twitter.com/GretaThunberg/status/1260920666385235969

Fingers crossed that one outcome of this whole covid thing is people respect what scientists are saying and recognizing that bullsh*tting about how prepared you are when you aren't really just doesn't cut it.

I love it.....does'nt leave CNN with much wriggle wroom to rehabilitate the rest of the "Former" Expert Panel...or is it a panel of "Former" experts,with a special guest appearance by Greta Thunberg....it's like watching an episode of Cade's County..or Dallas :eek:

One of the most apparent things to come out of CV-19 is the vast amount of stuff being said by 'Scientists' Worldwide,not all of which concurs with themselves...

https://www.buzzfeed.com/alexwickham/10-days-that-changed-britains-coronavirus-approach

There was no consensus. Several of the scientists frantically argued that the UK must immediately introduce social distancing to halt the spread of the virus. Some pleaded with the government to change tack or face dire consequences.

But others continued to believe that introducing social distancing now would be unsustainable for a long period and would lead to a more disastrous second wave of infection.

The dayslong debate between the experts themselves and with the government was “heated” and “extremely difficult”, multiple sources familiar with the discussions told BuzzFeed News. Vallance admitted as much at a health select committee hearing this week: “If you think SAGE is a cosy consensus of agreeing, you're very wrong indeed”.

And that's only in England......the reality is,Scientific bickering is to be found....well,wherever there are Scientists :eek:

Tell me how

AlekSmart wrote: »

And that's only in England......the reality is,Scientific bickering is to be found....well,wherever there are Scientists :eek:

I'd rather a bickering scientist than a stable genius.

blinding

biko wrote: »

Greta is now on CNNs Covid panel, I'm not even joking

With all of her years of specialised education in Virus and pandemics she should be very useful !!! Except of course she hasn’t been in school.

She has been spreading another Virus of course. Maybe thats why CNN had her on.:p:p

blinding

AlekSmart wrote: »

Things must be bad out at CNN Tower....a lot of "Formers" on that oul panel,not to mention that Dear old Donald has cornered the market in Town Hall appearances over in 'Merika these days.

I just keep seeing the activist formerly known as Greta....:D

My name is Greta and I want stuff NOW !!!

CNN obviously giving up any pretence of being a News channel and doing comedy and entertainment full time now.

brightspark

blinding wrote:

With all of her years of specialised education in Virus’s and pandemics she should be very useful !!! Except of course she can’t been in school.

Looks like you missed a few lessons on spelling and grammar.

Paddygreen

I hope my comrades at extinction rebellion haven’t used the lockdown as an excuse to slack off on the activism and puff the magic dragon all day, nobody is answering my calls. Snap out of it guys, we won’t win the war on climate change if we don’t get real about spreading Greta’s message.

CtevenSrowder

ricero wrote: »

****ing hell CNN really are a joke

As Elon Musk said:

https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1250694035984969732

da_miser

CNN know there audience well, they hate Trump so this panel will be a winner with the perpetually indignant, they will eat this up and ask for more, doom and gloom about Covid-19 and climate change, the CNN viewers are masochists they love to be angry.
Its funny when you approach CNN knowing the game that they are paying

Tell me how

da_miser wrote: »

CNN know there audience well, they hate Trump so this panel will be a winner with the perpetually indignant, they will eat this up and ask for more, doom and gloom about Covid-19 and climate change, the CNN viewers are masochists they love to be angry.
Its funny when you approach CNN knowing the game that they are paying

Would you prefer the Fox News approach of believing everything Trump says?
It's time people realized just because you say something isn't real that doesn't necessarily mean that that is the case.

Positive action to mitigate human damaging of the environment is needed in the same way positive action to mitigate the dangers of Covid 19 were (and are) needed.

Silentcorner

Tell me how wrote: »

Would you prefer the Fox News approach of believing everything Trump says?
It's time people realized just because you say something isn't real that doesn't necessarily mean that that is the case.

Positive action to mitigate human damaging of the environment is needed in the same way positive action to mitigate the dangers of Covid 19 were (and are) needed.

Any national network that puts a 17 year old on a discussion panel is a complete joke....a complete joke!!!!