No right wing alternative= No alternative

alastair

Mad_maxx wrote: »

They don't care about it if you draw accurate conclusions from polls etc

I'm saying as a people we are terribly keen to appear to be on side with aprooved respectability

People volunteered this information without any prompting to pollsters, knowing that it wouldn’t have their name associated with it.

People voted against this platform in a secret ballot, with all sorts of options available to them.

People can’t do a whole lot more to confirm they really don’t have a concern with immigrants.

Mad_maxx

ohnonotgmail wrote: »

Yeah we are fierce hoors for lying in anonymous polls. you can't be trusting us at all. give it a rest. you're talking nonsense.

Like i said earlier, personally I didn't consider voting for any of the micro parties

Mad_maxx

B0jangles wrote: »

So the argument is that people are so embarrassed about voting for far-right/anti-immigrant candidates, they aren't even willing to do so when it's a secret ballot?

Why the need to label them "far right"

Have they accused Jews of running the banks or something?

ohnonotgmail

Mad_maxx wrote: »

Like i said earlier, personally I didn't consider voting for any of the micro parties

What relevance does that have to people not caring about immigration as an election issue?

ohnonotgmail

Mad_maxx wrote: »

Why the need to label them "far right"

Have they accused Jews of running the banks or something?

Because they are. For some of the people we know about there are connections with far right parties in europe that do believe nonsense like that.

alastair

Mad_maxx wrote: »

Why the need to label them "far right"

Have they accused Jews of running the banks or something?

Some of them certainly have, and even if they haven’t, their platforms identify them as far right. There’s more to neo-facism than anti-semitism.

The Nal

The salty tears from the butthurt far right loons is my favourite thing about this election. They really thought they were going to do well. They're so disappointed.

Brian?

Mad_maxx wrote: »

Your last line is a political one

Immigration was never raised once during the campaign by any of the mainstream parties, extraordinary when you consider that housing was the top issue

That elephant is hiding in full view

It wasn’t raised because it’s a non issue for most of the electorate.

You know how politics works? People are concerned by something. Politicians closely monitor what people are concerned about. Politicians formulate policy designed to attract votes based on the concerns expressed. People then vote for the parties that best address their concerns, in their opinion.

Immigration isn’t a big enough issue for the politicians to create policy on because it won’t win votes.

There is no silent mass of people waiting to vote for an anti immigration party. They had their chance. They didn’t vote for them.

The Nal

Here are the right wing alternatives.

Robbed, its someone elses work.

alastair

The Nal wrote: »

Here are the right wing alternatives.

Robbed, its someone elses work.

In fairness to Rebecca Barrett, even the poor decision in marrying Justin doesn’t justify calling her Justin.

And James Reynolds, with a stunning 1.74% is missing from the list.

The Nal

alastair wrote: »

In fairness to Rebecca Barrett, even the poor decision in marrying Justin doesn’t justify calling her Justin.

And James Reynolds, with a stunning 1.74% is missing from the list.

Oh is that his missus? Didn't know that.

What a pathetic rabble.

alastair

The Nal wrote: »

Oh is that his missus? Didn't know that.

What a pathetic rabble.

Yeah. It’s definitely his first marriage though. He didn’t get a divorce and any mention of a first wife is just lies. Justin is opposed to divorce. Just ask his first wife.

Loafing Oaf

The Nal wrote: »

Here are the right wing alternatives.

Robbed, its someone elses work.

In fairness, they did well to get that much with George Soris personally stuffing the ballot boxes

Eric Cartman

The Nal wrote: »

Here are the right wing alternatives.

Robbed, its someone elses work.

why did they leave out Aontu considering its basically just renua with fantasy economics instead of real ones.

Mad_maxx

alastair wrote: »

Some of them certainly have, and even if they haven’t, their platforms identify them as far right. There’s more to neo-facism than anti-semitism.

What is "neo fascism"?

Loafing Oaf

Eric Cartman wrote: »

why did they leave out Aontu considering its basically just renua with fantasy economics instead of real ones.

If a party is 'right wing' on just one issue does thar make them right wing?
Anyone know if they got the 2% funding threshold?

Mad_maxx

Eric Cartman wrote: »

why did they leave out Aontu considering its basically just renua with fantasy economics instead of real ones.

Aontú are SF with a pro life position

Eric Cartman

Loafing Oaf wrote: »

If a party is 'right wing' on just one issue does thar make them right wing?
Anyone know if they got the 2% funding threshold?

Mad_maxx wrote: »

Aontú are SF with a pro life position

so abortion isn't enough to make a party alt right , What makes renua alt right then,

alastair

Eric Cartman wrote: »

so abortion isn't enough to make a party alt right , What makes renua alt right then,

Let us count the ways:
Homophobic polices
Anti-immigrant policies
Anti-women policies
Pro militarisation policies
Anti-EU policies
Green passport fetishists

Eric Cartman

alastair wrote: »

Let us count the ways:
Homophobic polices
Anti-immigrant policies
Anti-women policies
Pro militarisation policies
Anti-EU policies
Green passport fetishists

what are their homophobic and anti woman policies , and don't say abortion as anti woman as youre just doubling down there. Aontu id imagine share a lot of these due to basically being catholic SF

Ill give you the rest though although the green passport thing is just silly and not a 'political spectrum' issue.
For reference I despise renua and think that similar to many parties above, economic conservatives don't tend to vote theocratic catholic parties.

alastair

Eric Cartman wrote: »

what are their homophobic and anti woman policies , and don't say abortion as anti woman as youre just doubling down there. Aontu id imagine share a lot of these due to basically being catholic SF

Ill give you the rest though although the green passport thing is just silly and not a 'political spectrum' issue.
For reference I despise renua and think that similar to many parties above, economic conservatives don't tend to vote theocratic catholic parties.

How exactly is pointing out that anti-choice policy is anti-woman ‘doubling down’? Their overall ethos is a claimed ‘traditional family values’ which is certainly regressive for women.
The green passport thing is entirely of the alt-****e
They’re opposed to flying the gay pride flag on public buildings, want any reference to LGBT issues removed from the schools curriculum, oppose sex education, and want a ban on public servants taking part in gay pride marches.

Loafing Oaf

I wonder if Verona Murphy makes the grade. In fairness if Casey is there she should probably be too

Eric Cartman

The Nal wrote: »

Here are the right wing alternatives.

Robbed, its someone elses work.

Also do you know who made this, id love them to throw grealish and verona murphy in , and do a comparison to the hard left parties, I bet they overall got as many votes and a similar percentage.

pjohnson

The Nal wrote: »

Here are the right wing alternatives.

Robbed, its someone elses work.

If they become one party they'd be getting 99% of votes. Its Soros stopping them.


We need a strong party for these heroes. The 1% concerned about immigration need a party.

alastair

Eric Cartman wrote: »

Also do you know who made this, id love them to throw grealish and verona murphy in , and do a comparison to the hard left parties, I bet they overall got as many votes and a similar percentage.

But then you’d have to include the SD, Labour, WP votes too, and it’d still be a rout of the right wing. The hard left candidates put the right wing candidates in the tuppeny place, whatever way you try to spin it.

Eric Cartman

alastair wrote: »

But then you’d have to include the SD, Labour, WP votes too, and it’d still be a rout of the right wing. The hard left candidates put the right wing candidates in the tuppeny place, whatever way you try to spin it.

there is no pendulum swing equivalent for SD, Labour. PbP is the left equivalent of the national party , IFP etc... im talking only far left (PbP, WP, Solidarity) vs far right. Ireland has no centre or moderate right.

alastair

Eric Cartman wrote: »

there is no pendulum swing equivalent for SD, Labour. PbP is the left equivalent of the national party , IFP etc... im talking only far left (PbP, WP, Solidarity) vs far right. Ireland has no centre or moderate right.

Nonsense. If you want to lump Grealish and Murphy in with the far right, then it makes equal sense to include the left in with the hard left. Grealish is no more than a Galway flavour of the Healy-Raes, and Murphy, aside from her racism, is entirely compatible with FG.

Brian?

Eric Cartman wrote: »

Also do you know who made this, id love them to throw grealish and verona murphy in , and do a comparison to the hard left parties, I bet they overall got as many votes and a similar percentage.

Sinn Féin are hard left and have 24% of the vote.

Brian?

Eric Cartman wrote: »

there is no pendulum swing equivalent for SD, Labour. PbP is the left equivalent of the national party , IFP etc... im talking only far left (PbP, WP, Solidarity) vs far right. Ireland has no centre or moderate right.

Are you actually having a laugh? FF are right centre and FG are marginally further right.

PbP and SF are equally left wing. They destroy every far right party.

Tony EH

Eric Cartman wrote: »

there is no pendulum swing equivalent for SD, Labour. PbP is the left equivalent of the national party , IFP etc... im talking only far left (PbP, WP, Solidarity) vs far right. Ireland has no centre or moderate right.

You need to stop this gibberish "Eric". You really are just making a fool out of yourself.