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Update - Lawn ruined by cattle

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    #32
    Base price
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    _Brian wrote: »
    That must be recent change.
    Wasn’t it the Cavan or Longford Sherriff that was shot a few years back collecting a debt ??
    There are people around the country who are Revenue Sheriffs but they only work on behalf of the Collector General - collecting outstanding taxes etc.


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    #33
    bmc58
    Registered Users Posts: 2,822 ✭✭✭bmc58


    Ginger83 wrote: »
    Well the sheriff will go to his home which is a farm to recover money or remove goods.

    I also have someone keeping tabs on the livestock

    Farmer sounds like a tough boyo.What will you do if the sheriff brings you an old rusty tractor and 50 bales of wrapped silage?


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    #34
    pablo128
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    bmc58 wrote: »
    Farmer sounds like a tough boyo.What will you do if the sheriff brings you an old rusty tractor and 50 bales of wrapped silage?

    Sell them for a fiver, and then send the sheriff back to seize more goods until the outstanding amount is paid.


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    #35
    Ginger83
    Registered Users Posts: 3,469 ✭✭✭Ginger83


    bmc58 wrote: »
    Farmer sounds like a tough boyo.What will you do if the sheriff brings you an old rusty tractor and 50 bales of wrapped silage?

    They sell it at auction.


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    #36
    Ginger83
    Registered Users Posts: 3,469 ✭✭✭Ginger83


    pablo128 wrote: »
    Sell them for a fiver, and then send the sheriff back to seize more goods until the outstanding amount is paid.

    Exactly, sherriff does not care what they sell for.


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    #37
    Ginger83
    Registered Users Posts: 3,469 ✭✭✭Ginger83


    So judgement has been marked by the judge early Dec and the farmer was given 14 days to pay the court in full.

    Just had a relation of the land owner up to see if we could come to an agreement....don't see what it has to do with him, result has been awarded.


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    #38
    _Brian
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    Ginger83 wrote: »
    So judgement has been marked by the judge early Dec and the farmer was given 14 days to pay the court in full.

    Just had a relation of the land owner up to see if we could come to an agreement....don't see what it has to do with him, result has been awarded.
    The idiot farmer is probably embarressed and asked this person to approach you..


    Surely it can be settled by him paying the full amount now ??


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    #39
    Ginger83
    Registered Users Posts: 3,469 ✭✭✭Ginger83


    _Brian wrote: »
    The idiot farmer is probably embarressed and asked this person to approach you..


    Surely it can be settled by him paying the full amount now ??

    Well he offered to roll it :D


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    #40
    Odelay
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    Ginger83 wrote: »
    So judgement has been marked by the judge early Dec and the farmer was given 14 days to pay the court in full.

    Just had a relation of the land owner up to see if we could come to an agreement....don't see what it has to do with him, result has been awarded.



    He had all the chances to come up with an agreement or challenge in court. This is all his doing and no one else’s. I wouldn’t engage with them.


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    #41
    Ginger83
    Registered Users Posts: 3,469 ✭✭✭Ginger83


    Odelay wrote: »
    He had all the chances to come up with an agreement or challenge in court. This is all his doing and no one else’s. I wouldn’t engage with them.

    Horse is gone


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    #42
    Snowfire
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    Ginger83 wrote: »
    Horse is gone

    To France..?


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    #43
    maidhc
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    Ginger83 wrote: »
    So judgement has been marked by the judge early Dec and the farmer was given 14 days to pay the court in full.

    Just had a relation of the land owner up to see if we could come to an agreement....don't see what it has to do with him, result has been awarded.


    Having a court order and money in your account are not the same thing.


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    #44
    djmc
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    Having the sheriff involved the money will be collected and the longer it drags on the more it will cost the farmer in this case are sheriff recovery and legal costs will be added on. They can and will take and sell his house and farm if they had to and will recover debt one way or another
    Like the program cant pay we will take it away a lot thought they could get away without paying there debt as well


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    #45
    maidhc
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    djmc wrote: »
    Having the sheriff involved the money will be collected and the longer it drags on the more it will cost the farmer in this case are sheriff recovery and legal costs will be added on. They can and will take and sell his house and farm if they had to and will recover debt one way or another
    Like the program cant pay we will take it away a lot thought they could get away without paying there debt as well

    In this country if you don't want to pay you don't really have to.


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    #46
    endainoz
    Registered Users Posts: 4,815 ✭✭✭endainoz


    Ginger83 wrote:
    Well he offered to roll it


    Pity that wasn't offered originally. Did you you not say that wasn't an option originally? I'm assuming you have already paid someone to fix this lawn so it a bit late for rolling anyways?


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    #47
    Bass Reeves
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    maidhc wrote: »
    In this country if you don't want to pay you don't really have to.

    That is only if you have nothing. Sheriff will collect. This is why OP has been approached but it too late. If they fail to pay sheriff he will take whatever he need to settle account. Cattle, Machinery, cars, TV's, baled silage. As well all costs to to with collection will be added to bill.

    A 15k tractor could be taken and sold for 5-6k and it might just cover compensation for lawn and costs incurred by sheriff

    Slava Ukrainii



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    #48
    _Brian
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    The whole debacle is a lesson on how not to treat your neighbors or anything in life really.

    If there is a problem, deal with it, as they say in the marines, “bad news doesn’t get better with age”


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    #49
    Rows Grower
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    maidhc wrote: »
    In this country if you don't want to pay you don't really have to.

    I don't know what country you're in but it don't work like that in Ireland thanks be to God.

    "Very soon we are going to Mars. You wouldn't have been going to Mars if my opponent won, that I can tell you. You wouldn't even be thinking about it."

    Donald Trump, March 13th 2018.



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    #50
    Ginger83
    Registered Users Posts: 3,469 ✭✭✭Ginger83


    endainoz wrote: »
    Pity that wasn't offered originally. Did you you not say that wasn't an option originally? I'm assuming you have already paid someone to fix this lawn so it a bit late for rolling anyways?

    No the lawn has lay unusable ever since, grass is a foot high.


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    #51
    Ginger83
    Registered Users Posts: 3,469 ✭✭✭Ginger83


    maidhc wrote: »
    Having a court order and money in your account are not the same thing.

    I think the farmer is about to be reminded of that song- I fought the law and....


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    #52
    endainoz
    Registered Users Posts: 4,815 ✭✭✭endainoz


    _Brian wrote: »
    The whole debacle is a lesson on how not to treat your neighbors or anything in life really.

    If there is a problem, deal with it, as they say in the marines, “bad news doesn’t get better with age”

    Absolutely, sad that it had to come to this really. Seems like the ignorance/negligence of the farmer did them no favours and now they are desperately trying to solve it when it's clearly too late. This could have been dealt with in a much more civilised Manor instead of the OP being ignored constantly.


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    #53
    maidhc
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    Rows Grower wrote: »
    I don't know what country you're in but it don't work like that in Ireland thanks be to God.

    I live in Ireland, and I am a solicitor so I have some idea what I am a talking about.

    I am not saying the farmer was right in ignoring the issue, just saying that it is notoriously hard and slow to get money out of people, even those who have assets.


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    #54
    Ginger83
    Registered Users Posts: 3,469 ✭✭✭Ginger83


    endainoz wrote: »
    Absolutely, sad that it had to come to this really. Seems like the ignorance/negligence of the farmer did them no favours and now they are desperately trying to solve it when it's clearly too late. This could have been dealt with in a much more civilised Manor instead of the OP being ignored constantly.

    What they are still trying to do is come up with ways to get out of paying.

    Probably realize how bad they'll look if it makes papers too


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    #55
    Plumbthedepths
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    maidhc wrote: »
    I live in Ireland, and I am a solicitor so I have some idea what I am a talking about.

    I am not saying the farmer was right in ignoring the issue, just saying that it is notoriously hard and slow to get money out of people, even those who have assets.

    Once you seize assets to cover the debt, getting money from the debtor is irrelevant. Where there's a will there's a way.


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    #56
    Rows Grower
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    maidhc wrote: »
    I live in Ireland, and I am a solicitor so I have some idea what I am a talking about.

    I am not saying the farmer was right in ignoring the issue, just saying that it is notoriously hard and slow to get money out of people, even those who have assets.

    You may claim to be a solicitor but from reading your post "In this country if you don't want to pay, you don't really have to" I find your claim extremely hard to believe.

    "Very soon we are going to Mars. You wouldn't have been going to Mars if my opponent won, that I can tell you. You wouldn't even be thinking about it."

    Donald Trump, March 13th 2018.



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    #57
    Ginger83
    Registered Users Posts: 3,469 ✭✭✭Ginger83


    maidhc wrote: »
    I live in Ireland, and I am a solicitor so I have some idea what I am a talking about.

    I am not saying the farmer was right in ignoring the issue, just saying that it is notoriously hard and slow to get money out of people, even those who have assets.

    I don't dispute that but payment will come one way or another.


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    #58
    endainoz
    Registered Users Posts: 4,815 ✭✭✭endainoz


    Ginger83 wrote: »
    What they are still trying to do is come up with ways to get out of paying.

    Probably realize how bad they'll look if it makes papers too

    Just out of interest, would you have accepted the offer from the farmer to roll it if it was offered much earlier? I remember in the previous thread you had said that wasn't an option but I'm not sure if you gave a reason?


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    #59
    whelan2
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    Ginger83 wrote: »
    I don't dispute that but payment will come one way or another.

    In what time frame though? I had a court case. Payment was to be made to me within so many days. It was made well before that date. Is it worth all the stress?


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    #60
    Ginger83
    Registered Users Posts: 3,469 ✭✭✭Ginger83


    endainoz wrote: »
    Just out of interest, would you have accepted the offer from the farmer to roll it if it was offered much earlier? I remember in the previous thread you had said that wasn't an option but I'm not sure if you gave a reason?

    No we'd prefer a suitable qualified and insured person to repair it.


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    #61
    Ginger83
    Registered Users Posts: 3,469 ✭✭✭Ginger83


    whelan2 wrote: »
    In what time frame though? I had a court case. Payment was to be made to me within so many days. It was made well before that date. Is it worth all the stress?

    I don't understand


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