Update - Lawn ruined by cattle

Ginger83

As it has now been 6 weeks since the damage with all correspondence ignored legal proceedings have now commenced.

A pity for him, will post the result when awarded.

Ginger83

So as the farmer has not engaged with the court it has been found in our favour.

JJJackal

Did ye get compensated?

Ginger83

JJJackal wrote: »

Did ye get compensated?

Not yet, there is a judgement being made and sheriff will collect

Butcher Boy

Ginger83 wrote: »

So as the farmer has not engaged with the court it has been found in our favour.

How did ye get it to court so fast?

Ginger83

Butcher Boy wrote: »

How did ye get it to court so fast?

Small claims court

jimini0

Well im glad ye are gettingd sorted. A bit silly of the farmer to let it go that far. Sound like an ignorant man. Do you mind telling us how much he will have to pay? If you don't want to say that's fine.

Ginger83

jimini0 wrote: »

Well im glad ye are gettingd sorted. A bit silly of the farmer to let it go that far. Sound like an ignorant man. Do you mind telling us how much he will have to pay? If you don't want to say that's fine.

Yea and now his credit rating affected

He has to pay yet

Total cost 1150ish

JJJackal

Is it hard to get the money i wonder? Once the court awards it

Ginger83

JJJackal wrote: »

Is it hard to get the money i wonder? Once the court awards it

Well the sheriff will go to his home which is a farm to recover money or remove goods.

I also have someone keeping tabs on the livestock

Markcheese

Ginger83 wrote: »

Well the sheriff will go to his home which is a farm to recover money or remove goods.

I also have someone keeping tabs on the livestock

Is the sheriff costs at your expense..?

_Brian

Markcheese wrote: »

Is the sheriff costs at your expense..?

No it will be added to his bill.

JeffKenna

_Brian wrote: »

No it will be added to his bill.

I thought the small claims court couldn't enforce its rulings?

_Brian

JeffKenna wrote: »

I thought the small claims court couldn't enforce its rulings?

Not commenting on that as I don’t know.

But Sherriff recovery costs are added to the initial award at time of recovery.

Rows Grower

JeffKenna wrote: »

I thought the small claims court couldn't enforce its rulings?

You thought wrong.

JeffKenna

Rows Grower wrote: »

You thought wrong.

You thought wrong

Ginger83

JeffKenna wrote: »

I thought the small claims court couldn't enforce its rulings?

Its new to me but i'm enjoying learning about the process.

Ginger83

JeffKenna wrote: »

You thought wrong

?

Jb1989

JeffKenna wrote: »

You thought wrong

?

whippet

in my non legal knowledge - when you win a judgment in the SCC you can then engage with the sheriff yourself to enforce the judgment

Ginger83

whippet wrote: »

in my non legal knowledge - when you win a judgment in the SCC you can then engage with the sheriff yourself to enforce the judgment

Thats what I thought too.

atlantic mist

can you pay the sheriff with animals?
not a nice crowd to deal with he would have been better settling or paying after court

Squiggle

Ginger83 wrote: »

Yea and now his credit rating affected

He has to pay yet

Total cost 1150ish

How will his credit rating be affected?

JJJackal

how much does the sheriff cost?

Ginger83

atlantic mist wrote: »

can you pay the sheriff with animals?
not a nice crowd to deal with he would have been better settling or paying after court

Anything of value.

Ginger83

Squiggle wrote: »

How will his credit rating be affected?

There will be a judgement against him.

Ginger83

JJJackal wrote: »

how much does the sheriff cost?

I am not sure.

ganmo

Ginger83 wrote: »

I am not sure.

I think there's a fee+ a % of the judgement.

Ginger83

ganmo wrote: »

I think there's a fee+ a % of the judgement.

Thanks i didn't know that.

Base price

ganmo wrote: »

I think there's a fee+ a % of the judgement.

5% up to the first €5,500 and 2.5% on the rest according to this link. Dublin and Cork are the only counties with Sheriffs the others have county Registrars.
https://www.citizensinformation.ie/en/money_and_tax/personal_finance/debt/enforcement_of_judgments.html

_Brian

Base price wrote: »

5% up to the first €5,500 and 2.5% on the rest according to this link. Dublin and Cork are the only counties with Sheriffs the others have county Registrars.
https://www.citizensinformation.ie/en/money_and_tax/personal_finance/debt/enforcement_of_judgments.html

That must be recent change.
Wasn’t it the Cavan or Longford Sherriff that was shot a few years back collecting a debt ??

Base price

_Brian wrote: »

That must be recent change.
Wasn’t it the Cavan or Longford Sherriff that was shot a few years back collecting a debt ??

There are people around the country who are Revenue Sheriffs but they only work on behalf of the Collector General - collecting outstanding taxes etc.

bmc58

Ginger83 wrote: »

Well the sheriff will go to his home which is a farm to recover money or remove goods.

I also have someone keeping tabs on the livestock

Farmer sounds like a tough boyo.What will you do if the sheriff brings you an old rusty tractor and 50 bales of wrapped silage?

pablo128

bmc58 wrote: »

Farmer sounds like a tough boyo.What will you do if the sheriff brings you an old rusty tractor and 50 bales of wrapped silage?

Sell them for a fiver, and then send the sheriff back to seize more goods until the outstanding amount is paid.

Ginger83

bmc58 wrote: »

Farmer sounds like a tough boyo.What will you do if the sheriff brings you an old rusty tractor and 50 bales of wrapped silage?

They sell it at auction.

Ginger83

pablo128 wrote: »

Sell them for a fiver, and then send the sheriff back to seize more goods until the outstanding amount is paid.

Exactly, sherriff does not care what they sell for.

Ginger83

So judgement has been marked by the judge early Dec and the farmer was given 14 days to pay the court in full.

Just had a relation of the land owner up to see if we could come to an agreement....don't see what it has to do with him, result has been awarded.

_Brian

Ginger83 wrote: »

So judgement has been marked by the judge early Dec and the farmer was given 14 days to pay the court in full.

Just had a relation of the land owner up to see if we could come to an agreement....don't see what it has to do with him, result has been awarded.

The idiot farmer is probably embarressed and asked this person to approach you..


Surely it can be settled by him paying the full amount now ??

Ginger83

_Brian wrote: »

The idiot farmer is probably embarressed and asked this person to approach you..


Surely it can be settled by him paying the full amount now ??

Well he offered to roll it

Odelay

Ginger83 wrote: »

So judgement has been marked by the judge early Dec and the farmer was given 14 days to pay the court in full.

Just had a relation of the land owner up to see if we could come to an agreement....don't see what it has to do with him, result has been awarded.

He had all the chances to come up with an agreement or challenge in court. This is all his doing and no one else’s. I wouldn’t engage with them.

Ginger83

Odelay wrote: »

He had all the chances to come up with an agreement or challenge in court. This is all his doing and no one else’s. I wouldn’t engage with them.

Horse is gone

Snowfire

Ginger83 wrote: »

Horse is gone

To France..?

maidhc

Ginger83 wrote: »

So judgement has been marked by the judge early Dec and the farmer was given 14 days to pay the court in full.

Just had a relation of the land owner up to see if we could come to an agreement....don't see what it has to do with him, result has been awarded.

Having a court order and money in your account are not the same thing.

djmc

Having the sheriff involved the money will be collected and the longer it drags on the more it will cost the farmer in this case are sheriff recovery and legal costs will be added on. They can and will take and sell his house and farm if they had to and will recover debt one way or another
Like the program cant pay we will take it away a lot thought they could get away without paying there debt as well

maidhc

djmc wrote: »

Having the sheriff involved the money will be collected and the longer it drags on the more it will cost the farmer in this case are sheriff recovery and legal costs will be added on. They can and will take and sell his house and farm if they had to and will recover debt one way or another
Like the program cant pay we will take it away a lot thought they could get away without paying there debt as well

In this country if you don't want to pay you don't really have to.

endainoz

Ginger83 wrote:

Well he offered to roll it

Pity that wasn't offered originally. Did you you not say that wasn't an option originally? I'm assuming you have already paid someone to fix this lawn so it a bit late for rolling anyways?

Bass Reeves

maidhc wrote: »

In this country if you don't want to pay you don't really have to.

That is only if you have nothing. Sheriff will collect. This is why OP has been approached but it too late. If they fail to pay sheriff he will take whatever he need to settle account. Cattle, Machinery, cars, TV's, baled silage. As well all costs to to with collection will be added to bill.

A 15k tractor could be taken and sold for 5-6k and it might just cover compensation for lawn and costs incurred by sheriff

_Brian

The whole debacle is a lesson on how not to treat your neighbors or anything in life really.

If there is a problem, deal with it, as they say in the marines, “bad news doesn’t get better with age”

Rows Grower

maidhc wrote: »

In this country if you don't want to pay you don't really have to.

I don't know what country you're in but it don't work like that in Ireland thanks be to God.

Ginger83

endainoz wrote: »

Pity that wasn't offered originally. Did you you not say that wasn't an option originally? I'm assuming you have already paid someone to fix this lawn so it a bit late for rolling anyways?

No the lawn has lay unusable ever since, grass is a foot high.

Ginger83

maidhc wrote: »

Having a court order and money in your account are not the same thing.

I think the farmer is about to be reminded of that song- I fought the law and....