Air pod noise cancelling

peteeeed

Found in 13.2 beta

https://9to5mac.com/2019/10/02/new-in-ear-airpods-with-noise-cancelling-found-in-ios-13-2-beta/

Dades

Mine are going on two years old now and battery life is definitely reducing after constant use.

Waiting to see what/when is coming down the line with interest.

peteeeed

Rumours it will be called air pod pro and price point of 250-300 dollars / euro

awec

Will be skeptical that noise cancelling will be anything other than a marketing gimmick in the in-ear, non-sealing headphones like Airpods.

Creamy Goodness

Yeah not sure these will be active noise cancelling. They’ll crest a better seal in the ear and thus blocking outside sound.

Having active noise cancelling in earphones so small will have an impact in battery life.

chrislad

I'm holding off on buying a pair until these are announced. News seems to indicate that there will be an announcement this week, with end of month release?

peteeeed

Official

https://9to5mac.com/2019/10/28/apple-unveils-new-in-ear-airpods-pro-coming-october-30-for-249/

https://www.apple.com/ie/shop/product/MWP22ZM/A/airpods-pro

godtabh

Mr.S wrote: »

Pricey. No doubt the must have Christmas gift now!

The end product design is much nicer than the leaked stuff.

Will wait for the reviews on noise cancelling. AirPods are pretty much unusable on airplanes.

Agree with everything here.

I wonder will the cheaper buds come with the next iphone?

DubDJ

Just ordered a pair of the Pro’s just now. Been looking forward to an updated pair of these. As somebody who wasn’t interested in the originals, got them after a year and now doesn’t leave the house without them these were an instant buy for me.

Not too into the design tweaks, even the longer case looks strange. But if they turn out to be bad or a rough fit I’ll return them. Have to say though, can’t fault my current pair. Use them all the time including the gym and outdoor running. Still working perfectly and I still get a week of battery before needing to charge.

AirPods are one of Apple’s most underrated products in my opinion. New ones are pricey but worth the try at least.

Time

I hope the sound on these is better than the original ones because they were absolutely terrible for the money they cost. The Bose Soundsports are much much better.

BBMcQ

Are they any reviews at all? Or just a blind €279 purchase?

Sarn

I was only talking to herself about these last night. Looking for a good portable pair. It’ll be interesting to see how they compare to the Echo buds (apart from the price difference).

Gumbo

DubDJ wrote: »

Just ordered a pair of the Pro’s just now. Been looking forward to an updated pair of these. As somebody who wasn’t interested in the originals, got them after a year and now doesn’t leave the house without them these were an instant buy for me.

Not too into the design tweaks, even the longer case looks strange. But if they turn out to be bad or a rough fit I’ll return them. Have to say though, can’t fault my current pair. Use them all the time including the gym and outdoor running. Still working perfectly and I still get a week of battery before needing to charge.

AirPods are one of Apple’s most underrated products in my opinion. New ones are pricey but worth the try at least.

Agree with all of the above. Only reason I sold my AirPods was because they wouldn’t stay in my ear while running or training, I fact the right one wouldn’t stay in my ear if I had to run across the road!

I got Powerbeats pro, love them but I miss the convenience of the smaller
More discrete AirPods charging case.

Sarn

Unfortunately these are off my Christmas list. I’ve only an iPhone 6 and you need iOS 13 or watchOS 6, so my Apple Watch 4 wont work either (stuck on watchOS 5 because of iOS 12).

peteeeed

kceire wrote: »

Agree with all of the above. Only reason I sold my AirPods was because they wouldn’t stay in my ear while running or training, I fact the right one wouldn’t stay in my ear if I had to run across the road!

I got Powerbeats pro, love them but I miss the convenience of the smaller
More discrete AirPods charging case.

I also have the powerbeats pro for exercising, I love the sound and the connectivity so I've just ordered these

DubDJ

I had the same issue with the AirPods where one would come loose while running. Had the problem with other earphones too, odd sized ears obviously

I just picked up a pair of ear hooks that I put on when I’m in the gym and take off when I leave. They’re solid for everything accept running so completely fine for everything else.

Think I’ll keep my original AirPods for the gym, and use the new ones as an every day pair. My expected delivery date is Oct 31, hoping they actually arrive on the 30. I’ll update with how different they are once I get them.

I didn’t have an issue with the sound quality of the current set, decent balanced sound for music, podcasts etc. Not winning any awards for sound quality but still I didn’t find them bad at all, above average in my opinion.

Somedaythefire

Sarn wrote: »

Unfortunately these are off my Christmas list. I’ve only an iPhone 6 and you need iOS 13 or watchOS 6, so my Apple Watch 4 wont work either (stuck on watchOS 5 because of iOS 12).

They will probably work as normal bluetooth headphones. You just won't get the easy pair and noise cancellation until/if you upgrade.

eeloe

I’m actually in California right now.

So planning on hitting the Apple store tomorrow to pick these up!

Gumbo

eeloe wrote: »

I’m actually in California right now.

So planning on hitting the Apple store tomorrow to pick these up!

Are they available in store in the US?
The US Site says Pickup is currently unavailable.

peteeeed

reviews

https://www.t3.com/news/apple-airpods-pro-review

https://www.techradar.com/sg/reviews/hands-on-apple-airpods-pro-review

https://9to5mac.com/2019/10/29/airpods-pro-first-impressions-videos/

https://www.pocket-lint.com/headphones/reviews/apple/149928-apple-airpods-pro-review

Dades

I've always hated plug-in earbuds so these are not for me.

The battery life on my original ones is noticeably dwindling after two years, so I was hoping these could be picked up new for less. Not yet, it seems.

damo86

Have the missus swinging by the Apple store in Barcelona tomorrow so should have these on Thursday. I’ll let ye know on thoughts, I’ve been holding off getting a pair of AirPods due to none IP rating..ANC is an extra feature and don’t see it replacing my Bose QC35’s just yet.

Did go to the online Spanish store to see if I could reserve a pair but said only for the 31st..we shall see tomorrow I guess.

brophs

Dades wrote: »

I've always hated plug-in earbuds so these are not for me.

The battery life on my original ones is noticeably dwindling after two years, so I was hoping these could be picked up new for less. Not yet, it seems.

Likewise. Tbh, I'm not an audiophile so the second version of the Airpods, which I bought when they were released, are perfectly fine for me. I like the minimalist shape. Even with the noise cancelling features, I'm not sure I'd bother with the new ones at the moment.

DubDJ

I was never too bothered with noise cancellation in headphones before. But having started to listen to a lot of Podcasts with the AirPods and walking past a lot of traffic I’ve found myself wanting the feature added to them. With music it’s fine, but I find myself rewinding or pausing the audio until things are a little quieter.

That and the hopefully improved sound make these interesting for me. Just hoping they fit as good as the originals.

awec

damo86 wrote: »

Have the missus swinging by the Apple store in Barcelona tomorrow so should have these on Thursday. I’ll let ye know on thoughts, I’ve been holding off getting a pair of AirPods due to none IP rating..ANC is an extra feature and don’t see it replacing my Bose QC35’s just yet.

Did go to the online Spanish store to see if I could reserve a pair but said only for the 31st..we shall see tomorrow I guess.

These will not come anywhere close to QC35s. Two totally different markets. With AirPods you're paying for convenience.

peteeeed

mine has shipped , not sure from where though

chrislad

These will (hopefully) be my Christmas present. I have a pair of regular AirPods, so i'll give those to the wife, and these will supplement my QC35s for non travel.

Somedaythefire

Ordered a pair last night around 10pm to try them out. Can always return if they aren't up to snuff. Was meant to be delivered Friday but got a text saying they've shipped and they'll be here tomorrow.

DubDJ

My pair are out for delivery at the moment, didn’t go out until late in the morning.

peteeeed

mine are with DHL in holland

DubDJ

Just got my pair a while ago. The noise cancellation is on point. And the transparency mode works well and sounds natural.

The fit is comfortable and so far so good. Only using the tips that came pre-installed. I can’t really say there’s a massive increase in sound quality though. They definitely sound better especially in the mids and lower end, not sure how much of that is down to the better seal with the new design.

Better sound by a bit, good noise cancellation and the wireless charging case are all handy additions for the price in fairness.

eeloe

Picked mine up in California today.

Wow, they’re great, these are what they should have been day 1.

The seal is perfect, can’t see people saying these don’t fit properly like the old ones used to always get complaints about.

The ANC is brilliant, looking forward to testing them out in the flight home on Sunday, they should be brilliant.

shanec1928

eeloe wrote: »

Picked mine up in California today.

Wow, they’re great, these are what they should have been day 1.

The seal is perfect, can’t see people saying these don’t fit properly like the old ones used to always get complaints about.

The ANC is brilliant, looking forward to testing them out in the flight home on Sunday, they should be brilliant.

you may be disappointed seen a comment over on reddit of someone who picked them up straight before a flight and said they were pretty poor.

peteeeed

mine will be with me today , how was the set up in regards getting the fit right? saw theirs a test you can run when setting up

Somedaythefire

shanec1928 wrote: »

you may be disappointed seen a comment over on reddit of someone who picked them up straight before a flight and said they were pretty poor.

There are others that say it’s good. If you think ANC will magically get rid of all noise you’ll be disappointed. It will lower the volume of the constant droning noise made by the engines but you’ll still be able to hear people talk, or babies crying. It’ll be at a much lower volume, but you’ll still hear it.

Oafley Jones

DubDJ wrote: »

Just got my pair a while ago. The noise cancellation is on point. And the transparency mode works well and sounds natural.

The fit is comfortable and so far so good. Only using the tips that came pre-installed. I can’t really say there’s a massive increase in sound quality though. They definitely sound better especially in the mids and lower end, not sure how much of that is down to the better seal with the new design.

Better sound by a bit, good noise cancellation and the wireless charging case are all handy additions for the price in fairness.

I was hoping sound quality would be massively improved, because the original are pretty much on par with the Apple’s pack-ins ear pods. I love the convenience of them, and I’m not interested in noise cancelling (have 1000xm3 for travel) just wish they wouldn’t sound like ass for music.

DubDJ

Oafley Jones wrote: »

I was hoping sound quality would be massively improved, because the original are pretty much on par with the Apple’s pack-ins ear pods. I love the convenience of them, and I’m not interested in noise cancelling (have 1000xm3 for travel) just wish they wouldn’t sound like ass for music.

In fairness the sound quality thing is subjective though. What I hear might be different to the rest on here.

One thing I miss is the tap to skip songs, the click of the stem is just too fiddly and moves the AirPod in your ear. I can understand the reason for switching away from taps but a light tap usually worked and it wouldn’t have put too much pressure on your ear.

The other thing I find is putting the AirPods in and out of the case to be much more awkward. It’s harder to grip them while taking them out and then putting them back in you kind of have to twist them the opposite way. Definitely some negatives to the pro’s for me, although it might be stuff I just have to get used to after coming from the original AirPods.

jack presley

Anyone else having problems ordering? My order goes through but then I get an email about an hour later telling me there was a problem with my payment method and to update the payment but there's nothing wrong with the card or my account (checked with bank) so I'm stuck in limbo. The Helpdesk couldn't help either. I've never had an issue with ordering of Apple before.

DubDJ

jack presley wrote: »

Anyone else having problems ordering? My order goes through but then I get an email about an hour later telling me there was a problem with my payment method and to update the payment but there's nothing wrong with the card or my account (checked with bank) so I'm stuck in limbo. The Helpdesk couldn't help either. I've never had an issue with ordering of Apple before.

I paid with Apple Pay and it worked fine. Have you tried removing the payment details and adding them back again?

Somedaythefire

Noise cancellation is good. Not as good as my Bose QC35's but somewhat comparable. I think I need to sort out what tips to wear, think the largest might be the best but only have the mediums on now.

One thing that's excellent is the feel. If I throw my Bose on my head without music playing, they feel awful. With music playing they're grand but without music, I don't know my head doesn't feel right. These don't have that "vacuum" issue. They just feel like earphones when in.

Edit: sound is great, a huge step up from AirPods. But one thing that’s really impressed me is transparency mode. That’ll be great for walks or cycling.

jack presley

DubDJ wrote: »

I paid with Apple Pay and it worked fine. Have you tried removing the payment details and adding them back again?

I tried 3 times yesterday and within 2 hours each time I got the follow up email telling me there was a payment issue.

I tried again today at 11am and haven’t had any email so it looks that whatever the glitch was, it is resolved now (hopefully!).

The only thing now is the delivery date is about 12 days further out than it was on yesterday’s orders.

awec

shanec1928 wrote: »

you may be disappointed seen a comment over on reddit of someone who picked them up straight before a flight and said they were pretty poor.

Meh, if you are buying headphones for a plane and you want decent noise cancelling you are not going to buy Apple in-ear headphones, so I'm not sure I'd put too much stock in these reviews.

These things are for convenience users, who want headphones they can stick in their pocket. The noise cancelling might be half decent, and will make your 45 min commute on the bus or whatever sound a bit better.

And aside from all that, the battery life is nowhere near good enough for them to be any use for frequent travellers.

These new AirPods are competing with the previous AirPods and other wireless in-ears. They are not competing with the likes of Bose. Completely different markets.

peteeeed

I'm loving mine so far, I have not owned a previous pair of airpods, loud, really comfortable, In the first bud test it's said to change, so I swapped to the large and it passed
just listening to kendrick lamar and the bass is good & punchy

DubDJ

You can’t compare these with on-ear or over-ear headphones. They’re in-ears so they already have a disadvantage. I think they’re impressive based on that, didn’t expect them to be able to really block out the sound. Haven’t tried them on a commute yet but that’s my main reason I got them, current AirPods let in too much noise when listening to podcasts.

yermandan

Very interested to hear yizzer experiences after a week of use. Thanks for the info. Gonna hold off on buying for another couple of weeks but the signs are good

Somedaythefire

Very impressed after 1 day. Cycled home using transparency mode and it was great to have a little background music while still being able to hear everything. Other uses were gym and office yesterday. Perfect at the gym, but had a little set up trouble with my apple watch, it kept disconnecting. It was still connected but the music would cut off and stop playing. Don't know what's up with that. Will try again tomorrow and get on to Apple if it's still like that. In the office they're perfect. Offices aren't really the best place for ANC headphones, as they will not block out people talking, but they do lower the overall drone that seems the happen in the background. Again, not as good as my overear ANC headphones but I never expected them to be. They're a great complementary headphone.

Sound is a lot better than I would have excepted. Quite a large soundstage for the type so it's quite open and full. Bass is good, it's there but it's not overpowering. I'm not a big bass head so I couldn't really say much more than the bass sounds like it should.

peteeeed

transparency mode is mad . super hearing
1 full day in and i'm loving them

awec

The previous ones never stayed in my ears, they just constantly fell out. Are these supposed to be better in that regard?

Creamy Goodness

awec wrote: »

The previous ones never stayed in my ears, they just constantly fell out. Are these supposed to be better in that regard?

Better in the fact that they have three sizes of tips. They also have a ear tip fit test where they’ll play a test piece of music and determine if the tips you picked are a good fit.

Whilst no one could guarantee you that they’d fit your ears, they’ve a much better chance given they’ve three size options.

Bob24

awec wrote: »

Meh, if you are buying headphones for a plane and you want decent noise cancelling you are not going to buy Apple in-ear headphones, so I'm not sure I'd put too much stock in these reviews.

Disagree here - if it works well that is a use case I would very much be interested in.

2 reasons for this:
- in ears are a much smaller package that the likes of Sony and Bose headphones, which is nice for short haul flights whereby I just take a small backpack (and the battery life is perfectly suitable for these flights).
- People wearing glasses or sensitive to prolonged clamping and weight from headphones can prefer non-intrusive earbuds to headphones in terms of comfort and noise cancelling efficiency (many glasses prevent a perfect seal with over-ear headphones as the glasses’ legs create a gap between the earcups and the skull, which weakens the noise cancellation effect).

This is why until they died on me my Bose QC30 where my go to pair for short and medium haul flights over larger headphones. But you for long haul flights I’m still using the good old full sized QC25s.

Eire Go Brach

Bob24 wrote: »

Disagree here - if it works well that is a use case I would very much be interested in.

2 reasons for this:
- in ears are a much smaller package that the likes of Sony and Bose headphones, which is nice for short haul flights whereby I just take a small backpack (and the battery life is perfectly suitable for these flights)
- People wearing glasses or sensitive to prolonged clamping and weight from headphones can prefer non-intrusive earbuds to headphones in terms of comfort and noise cancelling efficiency (many glasses prevent a perfect seal with headphones)

This is why until they died on me my Bose QC30 where my go to pair for short and medium haul flights over larger headphones. But you for long haul flights I’m still using the good old full sized QC25s.

All about personal preference really they are much handier to carry around. But I would advice people that if you are willing to spend this much money on a pair of Apple ANC headphones. Don’t be sucked in by Apple hype. Have a look around.

For the record I have Sony wh1000x3. Glasses wearer. No problem wearing them for hours. They are a different beast though. Not very mobile compared to Apple. Mainly use the for watching TV. Dolby Atmos through the Xbox sounds amazing. Even got them for less than Apples

So if you want portability and convinces go with Apple.
But for full on sound and amazing ANC. I’d look around.