ESB eCars pricing introduction

liamog

Had to test the account was set up correctly today before handing the RFID card back to the Mrs. I was able to start the charge via RFID, and finish it by the app.

zg3409

KCross wrote: »

That would mean mandating the app and no RFID cards.

RFID card and app (website) are already linked. Start with RFID, get notified on app. Many cars have apps too that can notify when charge completed.

KCross

zg3409 wrote: »

RFID card and app (website) are already linked. Start with RFID, get notified on app. Many cars have apps too that can notify when charge completed.

What I mean is that you may not be an app user at all. You use the RFID card only. They cant really mandate app use.

I believe EU law is also going to mandate PAYG options using debit cards for the likes of tourists (i.e. no app).

September1

Has someone actually paid for charge today?

zg3409

September1 wrote: »

Has someone actually paid for charge today?

Yes. See the Ioniq thread for my fun and games

September1

zg3409 wrote: »

Yes. See the Ioniq thread for my fun and games

Did they took money from your card immediately or is it still pending?

liamog

September1 wrote: »

Has someone actually paid for charge today?

I spent €1.63 on 5.6kWh charge whilst grabbing a Starbucks. Had to make sure I knew how the system worked for when I'm away and the Mrs is stuck.

McGiver

zg3409 wrote:

Waterford FCP had 2 cars trying to start a charge this morning with non working RFID reader and phone line was so busy it would not even ring... Other Facebook users suggested starting charger using website, so beware when card readers are down you need to use website. Its a pity old app could not have pushed notifications to warn people of the changes and expected problems. Fees seemed to have been applied at 10am, with call centre flooded.

You can use the Bosch app to start/stop the chargers. Assume they'll send nonzero invoice now. Until now they would send a zero invoice.

McGiver

KCross wrote:

That would mean mandating the app and no RFID cards.

Not really. You want to avoid the overstay fee? Use the app. Simples.

zg3409

https://www-irishtimes-com.cdn.ampproject.org/v/s/www.irishtimes.com/news/ireland/irish-news/drivers-unable-to-register-for-esb-ecars-charging-system-1.4087176?amp_js_v=a2&amp_gsa=1&mode=amp#amp_tf=From%20%251%24s&ampshare=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.irishtimes.com%2Fnews%2Fireland%2Firish-news%2Fdrivers-unable-to-register-for-esb-ecars-charging-system-1.4087176%3Fmode%3Damp%23amp_tf%3DFrom%2520%25251%2524s

In all, “well over 4,000” people had signed up, he said. He estimated that in all there has been more than 7,000 cards issued.

So 50% of those issued cards have NOT signed up!!? No wonder phone line busy. I am surprised they never posted a letter to each person who was posted a card to tell them to sign up. I know plenty of drivers with no smartphone, no email. I could not see on the charger itself a way to pay once off.

From esb

Pay As You Go: Make a once off transaction at any ESB fast charge point or via the ecar connect app

Has anyone managed to find a way to make a once off payment. The charger only said "present card" so I attempted to swipe a credit card, but charger immediately said unauthorised or similar. Is this feature of not signing up and rocking up to a charger with bank or credit card available now?

Gwen Cooper

zg3409 wrote: »

From esb


Has anyone managed to find a way to make a once off payment. The charger only said "present card" so I attempted to swipe a credit card, but charger immediately said unauthorised or similar. Is this feature of not signing up and rocking up to a charger with bank or credit card available now?

Not sure if it's the same thing, but with ESB in the UK you can find the charger on the map, click on the connector you want and then my phone tells me to swipe to charge, once I swipe it asks for payment details and then lets me start a charge. The maps seems to be the same in ROI so I'd say it will be the same system.

zg3409

Gwen Cooper wrote: »

Not sure if it's the same thing, but with ESB in the UK you can find the charger on the map, click on the connector you want and then my phone tells me to swipe to charge, once I swipe it asks for payment details and then lets me start a charge. The maps seems to be the same in ROI so I'd say it will be the same system.

I see that is possible if not logged in.

Pay As You Go: Make a once off transaction at any ESB fast charge point or via the ecar connect app

I think this is what they mean by app/website, but the or at any fast charge point has me wondering if you should be able to rock up and pay with no phone needed once off.

jusmeig

zg3409 wrote: »

I see that is possible if not logged in.



I think this is what they mean by app/website, but the or at any fast charge point has me wondering if you should be able to rock up and pay with no phone needed once off.

Whats the story with the app?
I just signed up on the eCars site, but the old app is just the map?
I downloaded the Driivz, and it won't accept the creds I registered with on ecars? Have I done something silly?

Mickeroo

jusmeig wrote: »

Whats the story with the app?
I just signed up on the eCars site, but the old app is just the map?
I downloaded the Driivz, and it won't accept the creds I registered with on ecars? Have I done something silly?

App not available yet but you can use the browser version for now: https://myaccount.esbecars.com/findCharger

jusmeig

Mickeroo wrote: »

App not available yet but you can use the browser version for now: https://myaccount.esbecars.com/findCharger

Were people not saying use the app rather than card? They mean the web app then?

Mickeroo

jusmeig wrote: »

Were people not saying use the app rather than card? They mean the web app then?

Yes I believe so.

miamee

So the EV Plug In app I downloaded this morning is not the right one, is it? I still have ecars connect as well, was waiting for an update to that.

September1

miamee wrote: »

So the EV Plug In app I downloaded this morning is not the right one, is it? I still have ecars connect as well, was waiting for an update to that.

Basically you go to https://myaccount.esbecars.com/findCharger in your phone browser and you can start charge there.

Mickeroo

miamee wrote: »

So the EV Plug In app I downloaded this morning is not the right one, is it? I still have ecars connect as well, was waiting for an update to that.

EV Plug In is their UK app I think.

Gwen Cooper

miamee wrote: »

So the EV Plug In app I downloaded this morning is not the right one, is it? I still have ecars connect as well, was waiting for an update to that.

EV Plug In is for UK only. Ecars connect is the one that will be used for ROI when they release it.

miamee

Mickeroo wrote: »

EV Plug In is their UK app I think.

Gwen Cooper wrote: »

EV Plug In is for UK only. Ecars connect is the one that will be used for ROI when they release it.

Cheers, thanks.

miamee

September1 wrote: »

Basically you go to https://myaccount.esbecars.com/findCharger in your phone browser and you can start charge there.

Thanks, I've bookmarked that for future use

ELM327

So i was just looking online and I see in my last "yay it's the last of the free juice" I took on 34kWh in just over 40 minutes.

On the 29c scheme that will now cost €9.86 and on the future 33c scheme will cost €11.22.
That 34kWh will probably get me 150 km.

Interesting, can't see me using these all too often when Ionity is cheaper and Tesla is faster

slave1

How much would Tesla charge for that top up? (or did you get a free supercharging S?)

irishgrover

ELM327 wrote: »

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That 34kWh will probably get me 150 km......

is that a typo or accurate?

ELM327

slave1 wrote: »

How much would Tesla charge for that top up? (or did you get a free supercharging S?)

Tesla is 29c/kWh too but at up to 3 times faster.
I didnt get free SC with the car but I don't figure I'll use it more than 1-2 times a year anyway so not a big issue

irishgrover wrote: »

is that a typo or accurate?

No, that's accurate.
To be exact, 34kWh at 220wh/km gives 154km.

slave1

ELM327 wrote: »

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On the 29c scheme ...

ELM327 wrote: »

Tesla is 29c/kWh too....

Well isn't that a bit of a coincidence, probably pointed out earlier in the thread and I missed it

ELM327

You know, I'm not sure it was.
But 29c/kWh at 145kW peak is a better deal than 29c/kWh at 45kW peak

Black_Knight

Can't believe my eyes. Outlander charging on chademo, leaf charging on AC, and a leaf waiting. How frustrating!

Mickeroo

War EV charging never changes :pac: