ESB eCars pricing introduction

McGiver

innrain wrote:

I looked at all 7 FCP in use right now and all have the swipe greyed out. BTW nice to see a nearly all green map.

That's not the point. You can still swipe it even when greyed out. I tried it and it does work.

kennethsmyth

Ohh ohhh, seeing an issue with the maps part of the app - "for development purposes only" and maps darkened, maybe hasnt put in the full licence fee yet!!

Ok doesn't do this if signed in, only when looking at maps without signing in shows issue.

innrain

kennethsmyth wrote: »

Ohh ohhh, seeing an issue with the maps part of the app - "for development purposes only" and maps darkened, maybe hasnt put in the full licence fee yet!!

Ok doesn't do this if signed in, only when looking at maps without signing in shows issue.

Are you using the old app maybe? Check this link



https://myaccount.esbecars.com/findCharger?

kennethsmyth

innrain wrote: »

Are you using the old app maybe? Check this link



https://myaccount.esbecars.com/findCharger?

Nope not old map, just if not logged in as a user it shows darkened maps etc.

innrain

McGiver wrote: »

That's not the point. You can still swipe it even when greyed out. I tried it and it does work.

I can't. I know it does not ask you to confirm as easygo, as I stopped mine once by mistake.
I'll try to replicate it this evening. I will connect, sign out from the website and try as anonymous user. That would be worst than Ionity where the stop button is lit on the unit for every passer by.

Mickeroo

Do you have to be in the vicinity of the charger to be able to do that McGiver? I just tried to stop some poor randomer's charge in Dublin somewhere (for science, you understand) but I couldn't swipe.

Black_Knight

daheff wrote: »

unless its a couple of times a week. 5Eur *2*52= 520EUR annually (before kw charge)

Tis a big battery that'd be costing €5 to fill (@ 8c night rate). Like a Kona or eNiro charging from empty. Tis big mileage for an EV (36k km on public charging alone), even those large battery ones.

The free parking is probably where the savings are at.

jasonb

Just a quick question. Should I have received a new eCars card? I registered a few weeks ago, entered my current card's number, but have got nothing in the post.

Thanks...

kennethsmyth

jasonb wrote: »

Just a quick question. Should I have received a new eCars card? I registered a few weeks ago, entered my current card's number, but have got nothing in the post.

Thanks...

Not if you entered your current cards numbers - you just use the current card.

Mickeroo

jasonb wrote: »

Just a quick question. Should I have received a new eCars card? I registered a few weeks ago, entered my current card's number, but have got nothing in the post.

Thanks...

Far as I'm aware your current card should work.

jasonb

Great, thanks. I like to think I'm not a stupid man, but I do feel like this rollout has never really been explained simply! For example, didn't it say we got a free card worth €10 or something like that, for signing up?

Silent Running

jasonb wrote: »

Just a quick question. Should I have received a new eCars card? I registered a few weeks ago, entered my current card's number, but have got nothing in the post.

Thanks...

When I set up the account it automatically sent out a new card, which arrived a few days later. I added my current card and the new card. I had to verify the new card. Now I have two cards on the account. Handy to have two, his 'n hers.

McGiver

Mickeroo wrote:

Do you have to be in the vicinity of the charger to be able to do that McGiver? I just tried to stop some poor randomer's charge in Dublin somewhere (for science, you understand) but I couldn't swipe.

I was several kilometres away... Do you think it checks the GPS or something?

Mickeroo

McGiver wrote: »

I was several kilometres away... Do you think it checks the GPS or something?

That's what I was wondering. Wouldn't be particularly hard to implement. I had a look at one 9km away that's in use at the moment and it's greyed out there too.

Maybe it was a glitch that happened when they were flicking the switch for the charges this morning?

ELM327

Mickeroo wrote: »

That's what I was wondering. Wouldn't be particularly hard to implement. I had a look at one 9km away that's in use at the moment and it's greyed out there too.

Maybe it was a glitch that happened when they were flicking the switch for the charges this morning?

It doesnt check the GPS
I "started" a charge on a charger 50km away.

kennethsmyth

ELM327 wrote: »

It doesnt check the GPS
I "started" a charge on a charger 50km away.

It must be aligned to the user login then, so if I start a charge only i can stop it unless i unplug.

McGiver

ELM327 wrote:

It doesnt check the GPS I "started" a charge on a charger 50km away.

Yes I could start any of them the other day. It knocks it out for a minute or so when you do it. This is a separate and genuine issue.

Mickeroo

I'm pretty sure you could always do that with the Bosch app, though I never tried.

McGiver

Mickeroo wrote:

That's what I was wondering. Wouldn't be particularly hard to implement. I had a look at one 9km away that's in use at the moment and it's greyed out there too.

Did you try swiping more than once? It's greyed out for me too but if you hang out on the page a bit and try swiping it eventually does.... I'll take it a video i think.

ELM327

kennethsmyth wrote: »

It must be aligned to the user login then, so if I start a charge only i can stop it unless i unplug.

Ah yes you cannot stop a charge that you did not initiate (being nefarious, I tried this at Maxol Navan yesterday)

McGiver wrote: »

Yes I could start any of them the other day. It knocks it out for a minute or so when you do it. This is a separate and genuine issue.

Yup

Mickeroo wrote: »

I'm pretty sure you could always do that with the Bosch app, though I never tried.

Yes you can, I tried

NBar

Do Nissan leafs take all day to charge at the non fast charger run points cause any thoughts I have of going electric are fading as every day I see the same cars from morning until evening plugged into charge points in Maynooth shopping centre (Tescos) it seems to be people working in the centre or nearby parking their cars for the day on charge, does the charger stop or disconnect when fully charged or does the owner just leave until they return and then someone else can get a charge.

KCross

NBar wrote: »

Do Nissan leafs take all day to charge at the non fast charger run points cause any thoughts I have of going electric are fading as every day I see the same cars from morning until evening plugged into charge points in Maynooth shopping centre (Tescos) it seems to be people working in the centre or nearby parking their cars for the day on charge, does the charger stop or disconnect when fully charged or does the owner just leave until they return and then someone else can get a charge.

Dont let that stop you going EV.
The idea is dont buy a car that requires you to use the chargers. Charge at home or at an FCP on a long journey.

If just going to the shops dont go expecting an SCP to be available.

The SCP's are still free to use so the freeloaders are still using those as their personal chargers! Saw the same in Dingle a while back. Lady across the road in the aquarium uses it as her own charger/space! At least she had a note on the screen to say where she was and she did move for me but its not on really.

Black_Knight

KCross wrote: »

Dont let that stop you going EV.
The idea is dont buy a car that requires you to use the chargers. Charge at home or at an FCP on a long journey.

If just going to the shops dont go expecting an SCP to be available.

The SCP's are still free to use so the freeloaders are still using those as their personal chargers! Saw the same in Dingle a while back. Lady across the road in the aquarium uses it as her own charger/space! At least she had a note on the screen to say where she was and she did move for me but its not on really.

I'm sure she thinks it a nice gesture, but that's no good to someone checking the app for an available charger and seeing that one unavailable. I'm riddled with guilt the second I'm plugged in and not charging (the rare few times it happens).

Efitz2019

KCross wrote: »

Dont let that stop you going EV.
The idea is dont buy a car that requires you to use the chargers. Charge at home or at an FCP on a long journey.

If just going to the shops dont go expecting an SCP to be available.

The SCP's are still free to use so the freeloaders are still using those as their personal chargers! Saw the same in Dingle a while back. Lady across the road in the aquarium uses it as her own charger/space! At least she had a note on the screen to say where she was and she did move for me but its not on really.

Will be interesting to see how ecars manage the SCP's when they start charging for them. Some sort of overstay fee will have to be introduced to make sure people don't block them all day or just use them for free parking!

McGiver

Efitz2019 wrote:

Will be interesting to see how ecars manage the SCP's when they start charging for them. Some sort of overstay fee will have to be introduced to make sure people don't block them all day or just use them for free parking!

Can they detect if the car doesn't draw power? I'd stay they could. If so 15 minutes grace period after that and the overstay fee...

KCross

McGiver wrote: »

Can they detect if the car doesn't draw power? I'd stay they could. If so 15 minutes grace period after that and the overstay fee...

Not sure that would be practical. It would be very difficult for an owner to know exactly when their charge is finished unless eCars implemented a set time for a charge session.

zg3409

KCross wrote: »

Not sure that would be practical. It would be very difficult for an owner to know exactly when their charge is finished unless eCars implemented a set time for a charge session.

The app could notify users their charge session has finished and they have a grace period to return to their vehicle. Tesla does this at superchargers.

Waterford FCP had 2 cars trying to start a charge this morning with non working RFID reader and phone line was so busy it would not even ring... Other Facebook users suggested starting charger using website, so beware when card readers are down you need to use website. Its a pity old app could not have pushed notifications to warn people of the changes and expected problems. Fees seemed to have been applied at 10am, with call centre flooded.

unkel

zg3409 wrote: »

Waterford FCP had 2 cars trying to start a charge this morning with non working RFID reader and phone line was so busy

Those people obviously didn't know about the Bosch app

Those crappy EFACEC chargers have forever problems with the card readers. So bypass the card reader!

charlieIRL

unkel wrote: »

Those people obviously didn't know about the Bosch app

Those crappy EFACEC chargers have forever problems with the card readers. So bypass the card reader!

I got logged out of the Bosch app and can’t get back into it, even resetting password isn’t working.

KCross

zg3409 wrote: »

The app could notify users their charge session has finished and they have a grace period to return to their vehicle. Tesla does this at superchargers.

That would mean mandating the app and no RFID cards.