Why are most families houses and lives in a mess???

D3V!L

I walk around in my bare feet at home. There's no chance anyone is coming into my home and walking around in their street shoes.

I've had people walk dog **** all the way though a house before, a good few times.

jester77

Gunnar Shrilling Saint wrote: »

Embarrassed by inviting someone to your house and then killing the atmosphere and tone from the outset by asking them to remove their shoes and stand around in their socks. Nobody goes around dragging dirt into your home, in the very unlikely event that somebody stepped in dirt or they were running around in a field then of course you would remove heavily soiled shoes before entering the house but the likelihood of those events happening before a visitor arrived at your home is extremely unlikely.

As for tradesmen, it's a h&s issue to wear covers on their shoes and any tradesmen you talk to will complain about it and can usually identify the type of homeowner who will ask them.

Seriously, have you no sense of social norms or even a modicum of self awareness?

Killing the atmosphere? What are you on, lol
Like I said, I've never had to request anyone to remove their shoes. Everyone has the decency and respect not to drag in dirt.

This is like trying to talk to someone who believes the earth is flat contrary to all the evidence out there that shows otherwise. Trust me, when you walk into a house with your shoes on, you are bringing in dirt and germs. You may think or believe otherwise, but that doesn't change the fact. And by the way, the earth is not flat.

Ifevera wiztherewas

I prance around magnificently letting it all hang out. My house. My rules. And I expect ALL visitors to do the same. I do wonder about skin particles and other remnants soiling the floor and furniture though.

Lesalare

I detest people who ask others to take off their shoes in their house. I think it's the height of rudeness.

A house is to be lived in. I've only had it happen to me once. At a swanky dinner party for which I had actually bought a very expensive pair of new and very beautiful high heels. I found it really rude and totally out of line.

Feisar

Ifevera wiztherewas wrote: »

I prance around magnificently letting it all hang out. My house. My rules. And I expect ALL visitors to do the same. I do wonder about skin particles and other remnants soiling the floor and furniture though.

More skid marks than Mondello

D3V!L

Lesalare wrote: »

I detest people who ask others to take off their shoes in their house. I think it's the height of rudeness.

A house is to be lived in. I've only had it happen to me once. At a swanky dinner party for which I had actually bought a very expensive pair of new and very beautiful high heels. I found it really rude and totally out of line.

Honest question, why do you think its rude ?

Ifevera wiztherewas

Lesalare wrote:

I detest people who ask others to take off their shoes in their house. I think it's the height of rudeness.

What about clothes? Not in a weird way like

Ifevera wiztherewas

Feisar wrote:

More skid marks than Mondello

With some "guests" true but I have a routine of water wipe then pat dry with some tissue paper. My ring is squeaky clean as a result.

iamwhoiam

What is wrong with a good foot mat at the door . I can’t say I have ever had a problem with dirt being dragged into my house . And if it is a quick rub with a mop sorts that out .

Lesalare

jester77 wrote: »

Killing the atmosphere? What are you on, lol
Like I said, I've never had to request anyone to remove their shoes. Everyone has the decency and respect not to drag in dirt.

Trust me, when you walk into a house with your shoes on, you are bringing in dirt and germs.

Do you put hand sanitisers in jars mounted to the wall at your hall door?

Also, do you accompany your guests to the bathroom to ensure they have washed their hands after taking a crap in your loo?

Do you have children? If so do you disinfect them every time a guest comes into your house?

Do you check that your guests socks are fresh and clean? And if not wearing socks, do you check for any open sores/skin rashes/dermatitis/fungal infections?

I could go on...

Stevieluvsye

WOW The amount of pretentious wankiness here from the no shoe brigade

I'm sure someone would have the common decency to take off their shoes if they were dirty but to me it strikes me off "Mrs Bucket syndrome"

Get a fcuking life. Seriously

Lesalare

D3V!L wrote: »

Honest question, why do you think its rude ?

To me it's the polar opposite of social etiquette.

I find it really odd and OCD and frankly bizarre and generally lacking social grace.
In addition, it's not like most people are trudging through a field of cow manure and slurry to get to your house. Am sure if someone was, unless they were brought up in slurry, they would offer to take their shows off or give them a good clean beforehand.

Would you find it weird if you booked a hotel for a night and they asked you to take off your shoes at the entrance?

eviltwin

My house is all tiles and wood flooring and the amount of dirt on them when someone comes in is crazy. Makes me very grateful I don't have carpet. I'd have no objection to anyone asking me to remove my shoes. One friend has a basket of slippers in the porch for this very reason and I'm fine with it. Why would anyone have a problem with it? Bizarre

jam_mac_jam

Would you not be worried about nasty fungal diseases from guests feet. I never wear shoes inside because of comfort but wouldn't ask guests to. Sometimes they ask as we have some shoes left near the door but no.

I will hoover thanks. Not like I am gping to lick the floor anyway but your own feet can pick up infections from other feet.

D3V!L

Lesalare wrote: »

To be it's the polar opposite of social etiquette.

I find it really odd and OCD and frankly bizarre and generally lacking social grace.

Would you find it weird if you booked a hotel for a night and they asked you to take off your shoes at the entrance?

Is it because you say so ?

No because a hotel is a public place. That would be tantamount to taking your shoes off going into a Spar or something.

jester77

Lesalare wrote: »

Do you put hand sanitisers in jars mounted to the wall at your hall door?

Also, do you accompany your guests to the bathroom to ensure they have washed their hands after taking a crap in your loo?

Do you have children? If so do you disinfect them every time a guest comes into your house?

Do you check that your guests socks are fresh and clean? And if not wearing socks, do you check for any open sores/skin rashes/dermatitis/fungal infections?

I could go on...

I don't recall ever seeing any guests walking to the house in just their socks, or doing handstands on their way in, so the answer would have to be a no.

Some people here have very strange attachment to their shoes. Have they holes in their socks, smelly feet or what is the issue. They sound like they would sleep in their shoes given how attached they are to them.

Princess Calla

Lesalare wrote: »

Do you put hand sanitisers in jars mounted to the wall at your hall door?

Also, do you accompany your guests to the bathroom to ensure they have washed their hands after taking a crap in your loo?

Do you have children? If so do you disinfect them every time a guest comes into your house?

Do you check that your guests socks are fresh and clean? And if not wearing socks, do you check for any open sores/skin rashes/dermatitis/fungal infections?

I could go on...

No but I do have small children crawling on the floor.

It's not always about germs, but I've had glass walked into the house (in the grooves of heavy boots) thankfully I spotted it before the crawling baby did.

Lesalare

D3V!L wrote: »

Is it because you say so ?

No because a hotel is a public place. That would be tantamount to taking your shoes off going into a Spar or something.

I would imagine the oddballs who expect guests to take their shoes off for 'hygiene' reasons, probably spend the same amount of time religiously cleaning their house as any hotel would.

I cannot for the life of me understand why people expect this of others. Average shoes don't carry any life-threatening viruses or diseases and most people's shoes aren't caked in 'dirt and filth'.

ceadaoin.

Wow people really get worked up about the idea of people not wearing shoes in their own homes and possibly asking others not to either. Is it an irish thing?

I dont ask people to remove their shoes, most do though, or at least offer. We have hard floors now so it's not a big deal to do a quick mop after shoes have been worn. I probably would be mildly put out if dirt was tracked onto carpet though. I don't know where people live if they have pristine shoes after wearing them out and about. The soles of all my shoes are usually black with dirt.

Lesalare

jester77 wrote: »

Killing the atmosphere? What are you on, lol
Like I said, I've never had to request anyone to remove their shoes. Everyone has the decency and respect not to drag in dirt.

Out of interest, do you have a selection of indoor shoes or (god forbid) slippers to offer people to wear in your house instead of their filthy shoes? And if so, do you regularly clean these so each time someone wears them, they are 'dirt/germ free'?

Also do you warn, in advance, new people coming to your house for say: a dinner party - esp. woman, that they will have to take off their shoes and stand around in their party dress in a pair of socks/barefoot?

Shoes are an integral part of an outfit - for both men and woman, when going out to a social occasion whether it be at someone's house or a restaurant/public. place. Asking someone to remove part of that outfit, I personally feel, is really rude and OTT.

jester77

Lesalare wrote: »

Out of interest, do you have a selection of indoor shoes or (god forbid) slippers to offer people to wear in your house instead of their filthy shoes? And if so, do you regularly clean these so each time someone wears them, they are clean and 'dirt/germ free'?

Also do you warn, in advance, new people coming to your house for say: a dinner party - esp. woman, that they will have to take off their shoes and stand around in their party dress in a pair of socks/barefoot?

Shoes are an integral part of an outfit - for both men and woman, when going out to a social occasion whether it be at someone's house or a restaurant/public. place.

No indoor shoes, people just take off their shoes.
I don't ask people to take off their shoes, everyone does it here, it's the norm.

Going to someones house is not the same as going to a public place.

Lesalare

jester77 wrote: »

No indoor shoes, people just take off their shoes.
I don't ask people to take off their shoes, everyone does it here, it's the norm.

Going to someones house is not the same as going to a public place.

It's the norm, because you have obviously asked them all in the past.

Princess Calla

ceadaoin. wrote: »

Wow people really get worked up about the idea of people not wearing shoes in their own homes and possibly asking others not to either. Is it an irish thing?

I dont ask people to remove their shoes, most do though, or at least offer. We have hard floors now so it's not a big deal to do a quick mop after shoes have been worn. I probably would be mildly put out if dirt was tracked onto carpet though. I don't know where people live if they have pristine shoes after wearing them out and about. The soles of all my shoes are usually black with dirt.

I think it's a relatively new thing tbh.

Before when everyone had carpet I don't think anyone was aware on how much dirt the carpet was concealing.

We're a wet country even wiping feet in a mat doesn't always dry the shoes so on wooden floors you do notice the dirt.

Also if you've expensive wooden floors high heels are lethal for damaging them. If I'm in high heels I'll always ask if it's ok, even then I walk on my tippy toes so the heel doesn't make a dent...I'd be mortified if I damaged someone's floor!!

I personally don't ask people to take their shoes off, but we take ours off coming into our house. I also would have no issue if someone asked me to take my shoes off... If it was a house I visited regularly I'd have a pair of slippers in my bag.

Lesalare

jam_mac_jam wrote: »

Would you not be worried about nasty fungal diseases from guests feet. I never wear shoes inside because of comfort but wouldn't ask guests to. Sometimes they ask as we have some shoes left near the door but no.

I will hoover thanks. Not like I am gping to lick the floor anyway but your own feet can pick up infections from other feet.

I concur. I find the idea of this so much more gross.

Hanging out in a grown adult's house, be it at a get together or lovely dinner party and just, quite frankly, smelling feet. Reminds me of the smell you'd get when the Twister mat used to come out as a kid.

Who knows if one of those people have a rampant case of athlete's foot or worse.

I find so many people who enforce this rule and people who have loads of kids and have lost the run of themselves a bit from a hygiene POV. Or have a penchant for white carpet.

Greyfox

ceadaoin. wrote: »

Wow people really get worked up about the idea of people not wearing shoes in their own homes and possibly asking others not to either. Is it an irish thing?

I dont ask people to remove their shoes, most do though, or at least offer. We have hard floors now so it's not a big deal to do a quick mop after shoes have been worn. I probably would be mildly put out if dirt was tracked onto carpet though. I don't know where people live if they have pristine shoes after wearing them out and about. The soles of all my shoes are usually black with dirt.

It's a little irritating due to most believing its unnecissary. Only a small minority of people in Ireland want people to do this. Most people's shoes are quite clean as most people don't walk around in grass and muck. I will take them off if asked but I normally hate doing it as I often wear odd socks or the same socks I wore the day before

iamwhoiam

I hope people who ask visitors to remove shoes have already warned them about it . Then i wear orthotics and would not be at all happy in my stocking feet . I certainly wouldn’t wear slippers from a box at the door already worn by others .
I was in Canada and it is norm there because of the snow and wet boots
They have a shoe rack at the door with a drip tray under it for wet boots . But everyone is aware of this and carry socks or slippers or a spare pair of soft shoes . My son made absolutely sure to inform us so we had a spare pair in his house to change out of the wet boots
Its only manners to let people know if this is a rule in your house

Cyrus

for all of you worried about your smelly feet or the socks you wear days in a row or with holes in them

people asking you to take your shoes off is not the problem

Cyrus

Greyfox wrote: »

It's a little irritating due to most believing its unnecissary. Only a small minority of people in Ireland want people to do this. Most people's shoes are quite clean as most people don't walk around in grass and muck. I will take them off if asked but I normally hate doing it as I often wear odd socks or the same socks I wore the day before

do you think foot paths are quite clean?

Black Swan

Gunnar Shrilling Saint wrote: »

Why are most families houses and lives in a mess???

Nesting. Like swans.

jester77

jester77 wrote: »

Killing the atmosphere? What are you on, lol
Like I said, I've never had to request anyone to remove their shoes. Everyone has the decency and respect not to drag in dirt.
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In Ireland it is almost unheard of to have a rule around shoes in the house. I’ve never ever been asked to remove my shoes, I had it hinted at when going into one or two houses of non-irish people and that’s it.

People do not expect to have to remove their shoes when visiting a house, it’s strange and people don’t like it. It may be the norm in other places but it’s not in Ireland and it’s ignorant and pretentious to try to force it on people.

Also what are people doing walking into sh*t all the time? I walk all over the house in outdoor shoes and never drag in dirt.