UFC Fight Night Events Thread - Spoilers Within

Still Ill

I think there's a big difference between amateur boxing and the UFC though. It's an entertainment business. I enjoyed Max's showboating the other night. Don't think there was anything malicious in it either.

Alf Veedersane

walshb wrote: »

Yep..

And he was criticised for it and adored for it...

Probably because he did it again and again.

Holloway did it for 20 seconds of one fight. Given the context, I didn't find it particularly egregious and certainly not the example of behaviour to eradicate from the sport that I'd have chosen.

walshb

Alf Veedersane wrote: »

Probably because he did it again and again.

Holloway did it for 20 seconds of one fight. Given the context, I didn't find it particularly egregious and certainly not the example of behaviour to eradicate from the sport that I'd have chosen.

I am sure there are many more examples..

This one I decided to mention..saw it and thought I’d mention it. That’s all.

Alf Veedersane

walshb wrote: »

I am sure there are many more examples..

This one I decided to mention..saw it and thought I’d mention it. That’s all.

Gone way past just a mention now :pac:

Khumatmibro

Cant wait to see Connor MacGregor whoop this Dustin guy at the weekend

walshb

Alf Veedersane wrote: »

Gone way past just a mention now :pac:

Stop replying!!😅

Mellor

callaway92 wrote: »

Loved seeing James Gallagher getting nailed aswell.

That's something else though right.
I don't remember Gallagher showboating in the cage. His striking isn't good enough to pull it off.

walshb wrote: »

But you don't see an issue with belittling/mocking an opponent who is clearly being dominated as an issue?

Max the other night wasn't happy with beating the lad up, he was rubbing in his dominance in a very disrespectful way....that is how I saw it...

I don't like the belittling/mocking of a fighter that's being smashed. But I think that not every single taunt qualifies either.

Kattar spent weeks belittling Max's boxing. Max was destroying him. I'm ok with Max referencing Kattar comments mid-destruction.
If it was Ortega, or another grappler who never said anything about his boxing. It wouldn't be ok. Context matters imo.

Eg
Diaz - Flipping off the opponent (who is usually smashing Diaz for a round or two) I'm ok with. He's not doing it to to a helpless opponent.

Conor hands behind the back. I was ok with. It was in response to Eddie's talking about how he is too small, and how he has answers for his tricks etc.

MrStuffins wrote: »

Kattar spends week of fight belittling the boxing skills of his opponent.

Opponent spends 25 mins throwing and landing a record number of strikes on Kattar and reminds him of his words while doing so.

I don't see the issue.

This. Kattar asked for it.

Still Ill wrote: »

Yeah, he pretended to take a selfie with his opponent whilst he was beating him up!
I've no problem with that kinda stuff really. It's all part of the game. The audience can choose themselves whether they find it amusing or distasteful.

The MVP thing I actually do have a problem with.
He's fighting bums that aren't near pro level. This are local fighters taking a L for a few quid a the hope of a lucky punch. MVP talking selfies is mocking a bigger mockery of the already embarrassing mactchmaking.
Kattar is a top fighter, not a bum wheel out for Max to destroy.

walshb

I agree. Context, naturally plays a part..

Just my overall general view is that I really hate to see fighters who are clearly dominating and hurting an opponent to be also mocking/belittling whist doing it..

Showboating, as in messing or verbally taunting etc..they should be told to give it the fook over, and fight!!!

The Nal

Mellor wrote: »

That's something else though right.
I don't remember Gallagher showboating in the cage. His striking isn't good enough to pull it off.

He acted the absolute bollix before he got KO'd

SlowBlowin wrote: »

Muhammad Ali

Only once during a fight. Against Ernie Tyrell. And he was widely criticised for it.

Mellor

The Nal wrote: »

He acted the absolute bollix before he got KO'd

He’s acted the bollox when he’s won, post fight, pre fight, in the media.
The conversation was about showboating during the fight while dominating.
I don’t remember any from that fight. He was too busy losing.
He’s only really dominating when he’s on the ground rather than striking.

SlowBlowin

If someone tells you prefight that you skills are low compared to theirs, then its human nature to explain they are wrong after/when you give them a beating. This is what Max was doing, and what a lot of the examples show.

Then you have the likes of MVP or Prince Naseem who feel everyone can be mocked, even if their opponent has stayed silent prefight, its part of their game.

Fighters in the second category normally tone down their behaviour after their first good beating or disappear, and are generally not as popular fans as most want to see the cocky fighter beaten.

Its always been like this.

derfderf

James Gallaher wasn't showboating. He was just being a prick.

Still Ill

derfderf wrote: »

James Gallaher wasn't showboating. He was just being a prick.

Haha.. True. I don't think many would have a problem with his opponent goading him afterwards either. Thoroughly deserved.

MrStuffins

Anyone planning on watching the card today?

Fight Pass prelims @ 2pm
Regular prelims @ 3pm
Main card @ 5pm

SlowBlowin

MrStuffins wrote: »

Anyone planning on watching the card today?

Fight Pass prelims @ 2pm
Regular prelims @ 3pm
Main card @ 5pm

Thanks for reminding me !

Yes.

mailburner

Fiorot looks really good! She could go far in time.

mailburner

khabib's cousin up next!

Think I read somewhere this was on the conor card originally but they pulled it to avoid what could be mayhem.
Conor arrived on monday so khabib there now.

no doubt they'll be kept well apart

SlowBlowin

That kick looks spring loaded its so quick.

SlowBlowin

Wonder what Conner will say about that... it will
be interesting

Brussels Sprout

Nurmagomadov looked like a smaller, faster, weaker version of Khabib. His style was so similar. Even the way he checked a kick was the same. Definitely a prospect.

Brussels Sprout

decent scrap here between Jones & Davis

Mellor

Brussels Sprout wrote: »

Nurmagomadov looked like a smaller, faster, weaker version of Khabib. His style was so similar. Even the way he checked a kick was the same. Definitely a prospect.

If Chimaev is Khabig.
Does that mean Umar is Khalittle

SlowBlowin

Brussels Sprout wrote: »

Nurmagomadov looked like a smaller, faster, weaker version of Khabib. His style was so similar. Even the way he checked a kick was the same. Definitely a prospect.

I think that summary is excellent, strength might well come.

SlowBlowin

I need to see that Knee again sounded flush ?

mailburner

The chin on Mason though
must be awful disheartening for davis

EagererBeaver

McKee cut after going 0-2 and Jones in an absolute war on his debut against a relative nobody. Kind of gives you an idea of where exactly Cage Warrior is at in terms of level.

Cracking back and forth fight there though.

EagererBeaver

Jones beaten. Hard to complain about that. Could have gone either way.

SlowBlowin

How do you score that ?

Mason was so aggressive - and that Chin (must be related to justin gaethje)

Tazzimus

Mellor wrote: »

If Chimaev is Khabig.
Does that mean Umar is Khalittle

Khasmol

EagererBeaver

Tazzimus wrote: »

Khasmol

Which one of them is Khaswoll though?