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  • Registered Users Posts: 6,607 ✭✭✭Feisar


    Dog Murphy wrote: »
    Having children is ultimately a purely selfish act and governments should be actively trying to discourage people from having children.There are too many people on the planet and pretty much every single major issue facing the world, climate change,famine,war, immigration/refugee crisis is because of the excessive population.

    The world needs to face up to this fact and countries need to start making proper efforts to reduce population so that living on the planet in the future can be somewhat worthwhile for those who are born.

    Had one recently myself and yet i have to agree with you. The current problem with your suggestion is our whole economic system is based on more more more.

    First they came for the socialists...



  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 428 ✭✭blueshade


    Feisar wrote: »
    Had one recently myself and yet i have to agree with you. The current problem with your suggestion is our whole economic system is based on more more more.

    I think the problem isn't really Europe but the developing world. The populations in those countries is out of control. Condoms should be linked to foreign aid, no lowering of birth rates should mean no foreign aid. I saw an interview with a Guatemalan woman with a family of 11 giving an interview to some NGO. Can't feed em don't breed em. That sounds cruel, but the reality is that hundreds of millions are being born into abject poverty, children are starving to death and the ones that don't starve to death are locked into the same cycle of poverty, child marriage and having child after child after child until they can't have anymore kids.

    Carrot hasn't worked, it's time for the stick. The poor can't do anything until they are helped and the Aid has to start making it's way to the needy, not the dictators and corrupt politicians. Also there needs to be oversight into how much money is being given to NGO's and what they're spending it on.


  • Registered Users Posts: 19,966 ✭✭✭✭El_Duderino 09


    Paedophiles can't help the urges that they have.
    No one chooses to be a paedophile.

    Depends on what you mean. They don't choose to have the urge but the have the choice to act on them or not. But absolutely nobody would choose to have those urges in the first place.

    I didn't choose to be attracted to adult women. It just happened. I cant imagine what life was like if I could never act on that attraction. I have a lot of respect for someone who has harmful urges but chooses to never act on them. I think those people need help and support and probably a bit of credit if they are successful in never acting on their attraction.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 272 ✭✭begsbyOnaTrain


    Dog Murphy wrote: »
    Having children is ultimately a purely selfish act and governments should be actively trying to discourage people from having children.

    Via abortion, making housing affordable, making childcare and other family related costs through the roof for normal people, I think the government are doing their best to limit the population.

    Not that I agree with it.

    But as said, if you think there's too many people around then definitely don't have kids :)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 82 ✭✭Dog Murphy


    Feisar wrote: »
    Had one recently myself and yet i have to agree with you. The current problem with your suggestion is our whole economic system is based on more more more.

    The economic sacrifices I wold think would be far more tolerable than the real affects that unfortunately will occur with the world lack of willingness to do something to properly control population.

    The sad thing is the countries who's populations are increasing at far too great a degree are the ones that can least afford to have growing populations and yet they seem completely uninterested in helping themselves.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 8,127 ✭✭✭realdanbreen


    I believe that Riverdance is a load of ****e.


  • Registered Users Posts: 18,913 ✭✭✭✭Tony EH


    Feisar wrote: »
    The current problem with your suggestion is our whole economic system is based on more more more.

    ...until it goes pop. People tend to forget that part.

    Boom and bust economies always end in bust. Grand for the wealthy. But for the rest of us, not so much.


  • Registered Users Posts: 18,913 ✭✭✭✭Tony EH


    Dog Murphy wrote: »
    Having children is ultimately a purely selfish act and governments should be actively trying to discourage people from having children.There are too many people on the planet and pretty much every single major issue facing the world, climate change,famine,war, immigration/refugee crisis is because of the excessive population.

    The world needs to face up to this fact and countries need to start making proper efforts to reduce population so that living on the planet in the future can be somewhat worthwhile for those who are born.

    Are you going to forego the act of having a kid or kids yourself?

    Or is this great plan just for others?


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,613 ✭✭✭victor8600


    blueshade wrote: »
    I think the problem isn't really Europe but the developing world. The populations in those countries is out of control. Condoms should be linked to foreign aid, no lowering of birth rates should mean no foreign aid. ....

    Far more humane and a very effective method of lowering birth rates is making people work by giving them meaningful employment. It is difficult, but not very expensive, probably less expensive in the long term than the continuation of aid. For the recipe, read https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Bottom_Billion .

    In short, the aid, instead of handing out money and food, should consist of infrastructural works (with local people working), investing in education, helping the poor country to start exporting processed goods. The birth rates will fall naturally as a consequence of the mass employment and the increased standards of living.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,404 ✭✭✭Justin Credible Darts


    Dog Murphy wrote: »
    Having children is ultimately a purely selfish act and governments should be actively trying to discourage people from having children.There are too many people on the planet and pretty much every single major issue facing the world, climate change,famine,war, immigration/refugee crisis is because of the excessive population.

    The world needs to face up to this fact and countries need to start making proper efforts to reduce population so that living on the planet in the future can be somewhat worthwhile for those who are born.


    whats even worse is the number of those children that end up obese.


    which cripples the health system even more, consumes more food., to add to fuel and fuels they use as most fat people drive, than walk or cycle.


    Food is being modified to increase supply to meet the demand due to number of people with larger appetites due to them mostly being obese.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 82 ✭✭Dog Murphy


    Tony EH wrote: »
    Are you going to forego the act of having a kid or kids yourself?

    Or is this great plan just for others?

    I'm almost certainly not going to have any children.

    It's a bit of an issue with countries in Africa going through multiple famines and yet the populations of those countries explode at the same time, it's a completely contradictory thing for that to happen.It is a dreadful thing to have a child when you obviously know it may be difficult to be able to support them properly.Ideally you'd want people to get round to the idea of having only 1 child all over the world so that we can gradually reduce the worlds population for the betterment of everyone on the planet.


  • Registered Users Posts: 118 ✭✭ksceniaonegina


    I don't think we should give that much to refugees until we can feed and shelter our poor.


  • Posts: 17,381 [Deleted User]


    If would seem that people are taking other people's unpopular opinions too seriously.. If it's posted, that person knows it's unpopular.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,404 ✭✭✭Justin Credible Darts


    If would seem that people are taking other people's unpopular opinions too seriously.. If it's posted, that person knows it's unpopular.


    Because something is unpopular, or not said openly in public, does not mean its not true :D


  • Registered Users Posts: 16,770 ✭✭✭✭the beer revolu


    Probably an extremely popular opinion but I'm going to post it anyway.
    It would be truly beautiful if, in the future, Justin Incredible Darts, for some reason put on lots and lots of weight.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,570 ✭✭✭vriesmays


    Most headaches can be cured without taking tablets.


  • Registered Users Posts: 71,799 ✭✭✭✭Ted_YNWA


    Mod

    Can we drop the fat children comments and jibes.

    Posts have been deleted


  • Registered Users Posts: 16,770 ✭✭✭✭the beer revolu


    vriesmays wrote: »
    Most headaches can be cured without taking tablets.

    How do you achieve this?
    Tablets rarely do anything if I have a headache, I'd love some other options.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,404 ✭✭✭Justin Credible Darts


    Probably an extremely popular opinion but I'm going to post it anyway.
    It would be truly beautiful if, in the future, Justin Incredible Darts, for some reason put on lots and lots of weight.


    I will never be fat.


    i refuse to be fat, no one wakes up the following morning obese.
    They ALLOW themselves to get in that condition.


    I am neither lazy nor a glutton. :D


  • Registered Users Posts: 16,770 ✭✭✭✭the beer revolu


    I will never be fat.


    i refuse to be fat, no one wakes up the following morning obese.
    They ALLOW themselves to get in that condition.


    I am neither lazy nor a glutton. :D

    For now.
    Must be great knowing the future.
    Perhaps you could tell us what will happen with Brexit.
    Do you think people choose to get fat? It sneaks up on you little by little.


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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,404 ✭✭✭Justin Credible Darts


    For now.
    It sneaks up on you little by little.


    exactly, then comes a point you realize you put on a few pounds, and if you dont start to get on top of things and let it continue, then you deserve it.


    Thing is to not let it happen.
    I accept middle age spread happens, but some of the whales around is visually sickening


  • Registered Users Posts: 28,806 ✭✭✭✭Wanderer78


    exactly, then comes a point you realize you put on a few pounds, and if you dont start to get on top of things and let it continue, then you deserve it.


    Thing is to not let it happen.
    I accept middle age spread happens, but some of the whales around is visually sickening

    it must be nice to know that you wont become physically or mentally ill in the future, which might cause you to gain weight, im jealous


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,404 ✭✭✭Justin Credible Darts


    Wanderer78 wrote: »
    it must be nice to know that you wont become physically or mentally ill in the future, which might cause you to gain weight, im jealous


    who said anything about ill ?
    do you have difficulty understanding English ?
    Most illness can cause you to lose weight also.



    I said I refuse to be fat...

    I have been the same weight (give or take 2-3 pounds) for over 30 years, same waist also. I am an active person.


  • Registered Users Posts: 28,806 ✭✭✭✭Wanderer78


    who said anything about ill ? do you have difficulty understanding English ? Most illness can cause you to lose weight also.


    No speak no English

    Some illnesses do, strangely enough


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,404 ✭✭✭Justin Credible Darts


    Are you admitting that all obese people are ill then ?


  • Registered Users Posts: 28,806 ✭✭✭✭Wanderer78


    Are you admitting that all obese people are ill then ?


    Depends how you define ill?

    I would class obesity as a largely psychological disorder though


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,483 ✭✭✭mr_fegelien


    We should tell children that some people in this life are ugly/beautiful like we tell them that there are rich/poor, stronger/weaker, intelligent/dumb people.

    Beauty really isn't in the eye of the beholder.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,404 ✭✭✭Justin Credible Darts


    We should tell children that some people in this life are ugly/beautiful like we tell them that there are rich/poor, stronger/weaker, intelligent/dumb people.

    Beauty really isn't in the eye of the beholder.


    you mean aesthetically challenged surely ? :D


  • Registered Users Posts: 16,770 ✭✭✭✭the beer revolu


    We should tell children that some people in this life are ugly/beautiful like we tell them that there are rich/poor, stronger/weaker, intelligent/dumb people.

    Beauty really isn't in the eye of the beholder.

    Are you my mother-in-law?


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  • Registered Users Posts: 19,966 ✭✭✭✭El_Duderino 09


    I don't think we should give that much to refugees until we can feed and shelter our poor.

    We can feed and home our poor. But it would be expensive. It would mean rehoming all the people who just don’t have homes for whatever reason (the working families living in tents). It would mean institutionalising all the homeless people with psychological and psychiatric problems and paying to house them while we treat them to the point that they could move into a house provided by the state. And treating all the drug addicts or at least providing housing for them until they could move into housing provided by the state.

    If you even attempted to do all that, people would go bananas about the cost and extra tax. So a few quid for refugees who are a very cheap bunch by comparison is much better than neither helping the homeless or refugees.

    Refugees should be fast tracked to either stay and become normal people who can work etc. Or go home.


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