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Greta and the aristocrat sail the high seas to save the planet.
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Eh do you go by extreme exaggeration or something?
"This fells hate"??? Lol. That comnent is about and links to the details of an article about the book written by Gretas mother. Plus this is my only comment in this thread. So can it sunshine.
Tbh I have no idea what you are on about except it seems to be a personalised rant against myself. You do know that attacking the poster is not on yes?
For your information - the only idea I have ever put forward about some of the climate change discussion is the fact there is a complete mob mentality to a lot of the hysteria. And that's a fact.
Your comment goes to prove that point tbh.
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Tell me how wrote: »:D:D
Okay then.
Yes I know some dont really like that pointed out but hey there you go. ...
Put the money where the mouth is and show me where I've said otherwise
I'd suggest you read that article - it's very relevant imo ...0 -
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MarquisDeSad wrote: »Of course the post was directed at you. That's why I quoted you. That article is fowl. Why would you post such faeces here?
The article is 'fowl'? You mean it's like a chicken or something?
I think you may mean 'foul' as in distasteful. The article certainly spells it out - but no I do not see it as distasteful tbh. It's relevant because this thread is a discussion of the person detailed in that article.
The article deals with the details and subject of the mothers book about Greta - would you prefer that people shouldn't comment on what the mother has herself written about the child and the fact the child self declares she is a "16 year old climate activist with Asperger" on her own twitter profile. If you just personally dont like well I guess that's tough tbh.
Of note you did not direct the comment "at" me. You attacked a poster and tried to throw ****e. Afaik that is against boards ToU. Perhaps you really dont know that I'll give you the benefit of the doubt but exactly long have you been around not to?0 -
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MarquisDeSad wrote: »Of course the post was directed at you. That's why I quoted you. That article is fowl. Why would you post such faeces here?
The article is 'fowl'? You mean it's like a chicken or something? I think you may mean 'foul' as in distasteful. The article certainly spells it out - but no I do not see it as distasteful tbh
The article deals with the details and subject of the mothers book about Greta - would you prefer that people shouldn't comment on what the mother has herself written about the child and the fact the child self declares she is a "16 year old climate activist with Asperger" on her own twitter profile. If you just personally dont like well I guess that's tough tbh.
Of note you did not direct the comment "at" me. You attacked a poster and tried to throw ****e. Afaik that is against boards ToU. Perhaps you really dont know that I'll give you the benefit of the doubt but exactly long have you been posting here btw?
Grammar correcting is also against the charter. If your going to lecture someone on the charter perhaps don't break it twice in one post.
Anyway it's fascinating to see you and others hate towards her. Digging down deeper to throw whatever you can based on emotions.
If you don't see what's wrong with that article then that's on you.0 -
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I don't see Greta as an authority. Maybe looking up to her isn't the right term of phrase, I admire her, I find what she's doing highly inspiring. I also don't think she's trying to be an authority figure she's just saying what she thinks with complete conviction and trying to make a difference. This is not something we are used to seeing from children, particularly if you were raised in Ireland and I think that's why peoples feathers are ruffled.
The reason I find what she's doing inspiring is because we don't live in a world where adults protect their children and create a society where their children can thrive. To admire what Greta is doing isn't putting unfair responsibility on her shoulders it's supporting one girl, who in my opinion, IS thriving despite the odds.
We’re so far apart on this one lola I’m not sure there’s going to be any agreement. I do see where you’re coming from and I get why you would admire her for her enthusiasm and her work. I admire her for that too. I think it’s great that she has such enthusiasm and passion for something she believes in.
This is absolutely something people are used to seeing in children no matter what country or society they were raised in, no matter what time they were raised in. According to Biblical accounts, Jesus was 12 when he started his journey of social justice advocacy But that’s why I said earlier that the idea of using children to promote adults beliefs is nothing new. Not too many are going to shoot the messenger when they’re a child, and the adults using the child as a shield know this. That’s what makes what the adults are doing wrong. That’s what ruffles my feathers. I don’t hold the child, Greta in this case, in any way responsible for “her” message.
I absolutely disagree with you that we don’t live in a world where adults protect their children and create a society where their children can thrive. That’s exactly what most adults do, and there will always be the few that will regale their children as the new Messiah. All bets are off when the child becomes an adult and then we can fire at will on the messenger, but while they’re a child, nobody is going to do that, because they believe children need protecting from adults who would seek to put any responsibility on a child before that child has developed the mental capacity and maturity to have adult interactions with adults.
I don’t find Greta the least bit inspirational, because she’s a child. I don’t take inspiration from children because my role in society as an adult is to inspire children so that when they become adults, they can do the things that adults do and they have the capacity to fully understand what they’re doing, as opposed to placing their trust in adults who it’s clear couldn’t care less about her welfare and care more about using a child to promote their own message and shield them and their message, from criticism. The novelty will wear off Greta when she grows up, only to have her replaced with another child. It’s very rare that children who attain fame in early childhood themselves go on to become mature adults who contribute to society.
So when a group of adults are demanding that people examine their attitudes to the long term welfare of our environment while using a child to do so, it’s only appropriate for other people to suggest that those people examine the long term consequences of their own actions first and what those actions could mean for a child that they’re supposed to protect from coming to harm.0 -
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One eyed Jack wrote: »We’re so far apart on this one lola I’m not sure there’s going to be any agreement. I do see where you’re coming from and I get why you would admire her for her enthusiasm and her work. I admire her for that too. I think it’s great that she has such enthusiasm and passion for something she believes in.
This is absolutely something people are used to seeing in children no matter what country or society they were raised in, no matter what time they were raised in. According to Biblical accounts, Jesus was 12 when he started his journey of social justice advocacy But that’s why I said earlier that the idea of using children to promote adults beliefs is nothing new. Not too many are going to shoot the messenger when they’re a child, and the adults using the child as a shield know this. That’s what makes what the adults are doing wrong. That’s what ruffles my feathers. I don’t hold the child, Greta in this case, in any way responsible for “her” message.
I absolutely disagree with you that we don’t live in a world where adults protect their children and create a society where their children can thrive. That’s exactly what most adults do, and there will always be the few that will regale their children as the new Messiah. All bets are off when the child becomes an adult and then we can fire at will on the messenger, but while they’re a child, nobody is going to do that, because they believe children need protecting from adults who would seek to put any responsibility on a child before that child has developed the mental capacity and maturity to have adult interactions with adults.
I don’t find Greta the least bit inspirational, because she’s a child. I don’t take inspiration from children because my role in society as an adult is to inspire children so that when they become adults, they can do the things that adults do and they have the capacity to fully understand what they’re doing, as opposed to placing their trust in adults who it’s clear couldn’t care less about her welfare and care more about using a child to promote their own message and shield them and their message, from criticism. The novelty will wear off Greta when she grows up, only to have her replaced with another child. It’s very rare that children who attain fame in early childhood themselves go on to become mature adults who contribute to society.
So when a group of adults are demanding that people examine their attitudes to the long term welfare of our environment while using a child to do so, it’s only appropriate for other people to suggest that those people examine the long term consequences of their own actions first and what those actions could mean for a child that they’re supposed to protect from coming to harm.
I personally amn't used to seeing children speak so clearly and with such conviction. I have worked as a teacher for 20 years and when I come across a child that speaks with a power that is all their own it stops me in my tracks. (Most just regurgitate their narcissistic parents BS and are controlled/micromanaged to within an inch of their lives.) I once had a child of 7 I taught instrumental music to who used to say the most profound things to me and I felt it was my duty to give her the space to do that each week, even though the jaded teacher in me just wanted to tell her to stop talking and do what I wanted her to do.
I think Greta is on her own journey. I really don't believe she's being coerced or pushed onto her platform, but I haven't read books written by her parents etc so maybe people who have are looking a bit deeper into things and drawing different conclusions based on that.
What group of adults do you think are demanding that people examine their attitudes to the long term welfare of our environment while using a child (Greta) to do so?0
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