Greta and the aristocrat sail the high seas to save the planet.

Thelonious Monk · 02-10-2019 6:02pm

jackboy wrote: »

You are definitely an outlier.

Be a lover not a hater

Woodsie1 · 02-10-2019 6:52pm

Thelonious Monk wrote: »

Per capita we are far worse than India and China, it's a global problem. Do you not want to clean up your own back yard?

It is clean.

lleti · 02-10-2019 6:56pm

Thelonious Monk wrote: »

Per capita we are far worse than India and China, it's a global problem. Do you not want to clean up your own back yard?

Comparing climate change to your back yard is wrong.

1. You own your back yard and you only.

2. You can improve it immediately without any costs.

gozunda · 02-10-2019 7:18pm

Thelonious Monk wrote: »

No it just seems to be men aged 40+ who moan the most about everything. All you f*cking do is moan moan moan about everyone else. I don't know how you live like that.

Again are you psychic? Sounds more like a sexist comment tbh

Pot Kettle black? In your various comments - you moan about middle age men in this thread, you moan and give out about those living in the country, you moan about housing ditto, you moan about farmers, you moan about cattle - you moan about all those things in your comments ad nauseum. I really really do not know how you live like that.

That's not to say criticism is not always valid but moaning like that again and again is not discussion for sure.

Perhaps you would like to explain your bizarre belief its "men aged 40+" who chose to comment and no one else?

Thelonious Monk · 02-10-2019 7:22pm

Woodsie1 wrote: »

It is clean.

Lol. Good one.

Eric Cartman · 02-10-2019 7:23pm

Thelonious Monk wrote: »

Per capita we are far worse than India and China, it's a global problem. Do you not want to clean up your own back yard?

well im sorry we don't have a million poor rice farmers to cover up the giant factories making cities an unbreathable place.

Also the figures are often self submitted....believing china's government wouldn't be the wisest decision.

gozunda · 02-10-2019 7:25pm

Thelonious Monk wrote: »

Per capita we are far worse than India and China, it's a global problem. Do you not want to clean up your own back yard?

The Chinese now exceed EU per capita emissions..

The only reason that Ireland is above the EU average is due to the fact that we have a valuable export trade in agricultural produce mainly to other EU countries. And even though that produce is eaten elsewhere - those carbon emissions end up on Irelands balance sheet. There is a now a significant case to be argued for such emissions to be measured Europe wide as other countries are benefiting from deliberatly offshoring such production to other countries.

Woodsie1 · 02-10-2019 7:27pm

Thelonious Monk wrote: »

Lol. Good one.

I think its a nicer response than wailing at anyone who disagrees with me.:)

Thelonious Monk · 02-10-2019 7:27pm

Eric Cartman wrote: »

well im sorry we don't have a million poor rice farmers to cover up the giant factories making cities an unbreathable place.

Also the figures are often self submitted....believing china's government wouldn't be the wisest decision.

Pity about our own filthy cities

https://www.thejournal.ie/poor-air-quality-in-ireland-killing-1120-people-each-year-4823103-Sep2019/

KyussB · 02-10-2019 7:28pm

gozunda wrote: »

The Chinese now exceed EU per capita emissions..

The only reason that Ireland is above the EU average is due to the fact that we have a valuable export trade in agricultural produce mainly to other EU countries. And even though that produce is eaten elsewhere - those carbon emissions end up on Irelands balance sheet. There is a now a significant case to be argued for such emissions to be measured Europe wide as other countries are benefiting from deliberatly offshoring such production to other countries.

So you want responsibility for Ireland's emissions to be spread out based on where we export - but you don't want the same for China (since, if we did that, it'd massively inflate the emission's the western world is responsible for...).

Typical/usual hypocrisy and wilful blindness.

Pa ElGrande · 02-10-2019 7:29pm

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x7kKxbl-ILI

Eric Cartman · 02-10-2019 7:29pm

Thelonious Monk wrote: »

Pity about our own filthy cities

https://www.thejournal.ie/poor-air-quality-in-ireland-killing-1120-people-each-year-4823103-Sep2019/

our cities smog and carcinogens levels wouldnt even fit on the same graph as most industrial cities in asia.

Thelonious Monk · 02-10-2019 7:33pm

Eric Cartman wrote: »

our cities smog and carcinogens levels wouldnt even fit on the same graph as most industrial cities in asia.

So that makes it ok?

Eric Cartman · 02-10-2019 7:34pm

Thelonious Monk wrote: »

So that makes it ok?

well it means that in terms of 'saving the planet' as a whole , we would be , as the post that started this tangent 'pissing into the wind' if asia doesn't get its act together.

Thelonious Monk · 02-10-2019 7:37pm

Us trying to have cleaner air in our cities has nothing to do with india or china. You people are obsessed with india and china.

Eric Cartman · 02-10-2019 7:38pm

Thelonious Monk wrote: »

Us trying to have cleaner air in our cities has nothing to do with india or china. You people are obsessed with india and china.

ohh so the world can clean up its act in sections.

Its alright lads, as long as europe keeps innovating nothing bad will happen no matter how badly asia and africa continue to screw up.

Thelonious Monk · 02-10-2019 7:41pm

Eric Cartman wrote: »

ohh so the world can clean up its act in sections.

Its alright lads, as long as europe keeps innovating nothing bad will happen no matter how badly asia and africa continue to screw up.

Lol. So do nothing to clean up our own act because someone else isnt. Are you 12?

Woodsie1 · 02-10-2019 7:41pm

Thelonious Monk wrote: »

Per capita we are far worse than India and China, it's a global problem. Do you not want to clean up your own back yard?

Thelonious Monk wrote: »

Us trying to have cleaner air in our cities has nothing to do with india or china. You people are obsessed with india and china.

Why are you only focusing locally?
You said yourself "its a global problem"

Thelonious Monk · 02-10-2019 7:43pm

Woodsie1 wrote: »

Why are you only focusing locally?
You said yourself "its a global problem"

Its the best i can do

Ash.J.Williams · 02-10-2019 7:46pm

Thelonious Monk wrote: »

Us trying to have cleaner air in our cities has nothing to do with india or china. You people are obsessed with india and china.

Oddly it's because of green polices our air is filthy, I assumed they put the atmosphere before our health?

Woodsie1 · 02-10-2019 7:46pm

Thelonious Monk wrote: »

Its the best i can do

Ah right so shout down anyone who mentions China and India instead.
Good lad:rolleyes:

lleti · 02-10-2019 7:47pm

Thelonious Monk wrote: »

Its the best i can do

Where are Gretas parents? Are they following her around the states too?

They seem like terrible parents tbh. Greta forced them to make lifestyle changes and made them stop eating meat, that was when she was much younger. What kind of parents allow their children to walk all over them?

They must be delighted she's not around them and demanding things from them. They're probably stuffing their faces with meat and flying on planes when she's not there.

Thelonious Monk · 02-10-2019 7:59pm

I know very little about Greta or her parents. You guys seem to know it all.

Thelonious Monk · 02-10-2019 8:07pm

Woodsie1 wrote: »

Ah right so shout down anyone who mentions China and India instead.
Good lad:rolleyes:

I think its a lazy excuse to do nothing because india and china

Tell me how · 02-10-2019 8:07pm

lleti wrote: »

Where are Gretas parents? Are they following her around the states too?

They seem like terrible parents tbh. Greta forced them to make lifestyle changes and made them stop eating meat, that was when she was much younger. What kind of parents allow their children to walk all over them?

They must be delighted she's not around them and demanding things from them. They're probably stuffing their faces with meat and flying on planes when she's not there.

Terrible parents alright.

Have raised a smart, principled, conscientious girl who by the age of 16 has spoke at UN, EU, HoC, US congress, won several awards, has been nominated for a Nobel prize, has travelled from Europe to the US on a racing yacht, has motivated over ten million people to join her on striking in order to motivate governments to protect the planet and has ticked off an entire socio-group of conspiracy theorists who hate the idea of positive action or change.

If she never does another thing, she'll have lived a more eventful and productive life than 99.9% of people on the planet.

But yeah, terrible parents.

archer22 · 02-10-2019 8:09pm

lleti wrote: »

Where are Gretas parents? Are they following her around the states too?

They seem like terrible parents tbh. Greta forced them to make lifestyle changes and made them stop eating meat, that was when she was much younger. What kind of parents allow their children to walk all over them?

They must be delighted she's not around them and demanding things from them. They're probably stuffing their faces with meat and flying on planes when she's not there.

Jasus this is the biggest load of scutter I have read so far...and thats saying something on this tread :eek:

Time to log off methinks before I start losing brain cells reading this moronic gibberish!

Eric Cartman · 02-10-2019 8:10pm

Tell me how wrote: »

Terrible parents alright.

Have raised a smart, principled, conscientious girl who by the age of 16 has spoke at UN, EU, HoC, US congress, won several awards, has been nominated for a Nobel prize, has travelled from Europe to the US on a racing yacht, has motivated over ten million people to join her on striking in order to motivate governments to protect the planet and has ticked off an entire socio-group of conspiracy theorists who hate the idea of positive action or change.

If she never does another thing, she'll have lived a more eventful productive life than 99.9% of people on the planet.

But yeah, terrible parents.

I would have said pimped out their mentally ill daughter to cause panic to assist big corporate interests and erode peoples way of life in the name of averting a crisis that those interests have been peddling for decades, but sure here we are.

Thelonious Monk · 02-10-2019 8:12pm

Your way of life needs to change Eric! I hope im alive long enough to see people like you inconvenienced

Tell me how · 02-10-2019 8:13pm

Eric Cartman wrote: »

I would have said pimped out their mentally ill daughter to cause panic to assist big corporate interests and erode peoples way of life in the name of averting a crisis that those interests have been peddling for decades, but sure here we are.

I know you would have, I've seen enough of your posts to know the way you think.

Thing is, there's no evidence to support that view. But, ignoring evidence is part and parcel of some peoples MO.

Woodsie1 · 02-10-2019 8:15pm

Thelonious Monk wrote: »

I think its a lazy excuse to do nothing because india and china

We(as in western Europe) aren't doing nothing.
If China and India followed our lead the world would be much better off but because they aren't it leads back to my original post that we are pissing against the wind.

Greta and the aristocrat sail the high seas to save the planet.

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