3,140 rooms to rent & 8,500 houses to rent -what 'homeless' crisis

Plumbthedepths

Assetbacked wrote:

Those who raised their families in social housing with those families now moved out, should be required to move to smaller units in order to enable the next generation to move in. The house-for-life mentality is ridiculous and entirely unfair.

These smaller units exist where?

Pawwed Rig

SusieBlue wrote: »

Exactly. I work about a 15/20 minute drive from my job. If I want to make it in for 8am, I need to get the 6:40am bus. To get that bus I need to leave home at 6:15am.
And yet I'm still late for work a few times a month, due to the bus not showing up, being too full, or being stuck in traffic.

I'm lucky that I can walk it in roughly an hour or so if the weather is good but that isn't always possible in this climate, particularly in the winter.

Scooter would be the solution here to be fair. Or else take up cycling or running. Zero gym fees then

Ush1

SusieBlue wrote: »

If building/letting affordable housing proportionate to the actual average salary isn't possible, at the very least we need to make serious improvements to our public transport so that those on low incomes can commute more efficiently and not spend hours sat in traffic jams on buses, as is currently the case across the country.

Affordable (not free, affordable) housing in our big cities for our workforce benefits everyone, so I can't understand why you are so against it.

Best of luck with that with the usual NIMBYs, see the Metro and Bus Connects.

SusieBlue

Pawwed Rig wrote: »

Scooter would be the solution here to be fair. Or else take up cycling or running. Zero gym fees then

I would 100% do this if my office had showering facilities but it doesn't.

Graces7

rireland wrote: »

https://www.daft.ie/sligo/houses-for-rent/ballinode/no-1-brookfield-ballinode-sligo-1944589/

Nice 3 bed in Sligo for 280 a month.

You could afford this on the dole.

I know if I was facing homelessness I wouldn't care if I had to move across the country. I'd rather move 2 hours away than be homeless.

OK...

"Very clean and in excellent condition 3 Bedroom House to rent in Brookfield and 3 Bedroom House to rent in Glencarrick from 1st September, 9 months lease. Sleeps 5 students. Less than 5 minute walk to Sligo I.T. and beside bus stop to St. Angela's College. "

it is per room not the house and on a nine month arrangement.

Pawwed Rig

SusieBlue wrote: »

I would 100% do this if my office had showering facilities but it doesn't.

Electric Scooter then? Moped? Electric bike?

My office installed a shower when I asked them about commuting options. Maybe yours would too?
My point is that there are always solutions available if people are willing to try them.

Fair play to you for walking it btw. I wouldn't do that bus trip.

weldoninhio

rireland wrote: »

How many homeless people had jobs before they were made homeless?

I've no idea what your point is. Probably lots.

Sonics2k

ELM327 wrote: »

in dublin.


They can however move elsewhere.
There is no crisis, just an excess in demand for dublin properties which does not exist elsewhere. Plenty of houses in Longford. Cheap too.

Eh, not quite true. My old apartment in Jacobs Island, Cork, used to cost me €700 a month. It's a small 2 bed, with a shared living room/kitchen and obviously no garden.

Quiet recently (a month ago) I saw the same place going for €1050 a month. It's only been 3-4 years at most since I moved out of there.

ILoveYourVibes

JustAThought wrote: »

July 2019 & today there are 3,140 house share rooms and over 8,500 houses to rent on daft.ie
Isn't it about time journalists started quoting these figures when reporting 'homeless' figures.

True. You are 100% correct.

But they are places people cannot afford. Or places people cannot find jobs in or commute.

People don't feel secure enough to leave a good career for a place to rent.

So its either build high speed trains ...or build other economic hubs outside of Dublin, Galway and Cork.

ILoveYourVibes

Sonics2k wrote: »

Eh, not quite true. My old apartment in Jacobs Island, Cork, used to cost me €700 a month. It's a small 2 bed, with a shared living room/kitchen and obviously no garden.

Quiet recently (a month ago) I saw the same place going for €1050 a month. It's only been 3-4 years at most since I moved out of there.

That's cheap.

Donald Trump

LoLth wrote: »

Possible solutions that could help alleviate the issue in my opinion:
Home sharing with the elderly. Old lady has 3 bedrooms, she gets to rent out two and supplement her pension without having to sell the house. problem: could be open to abuse by either party and potential to put an elderly person at risk by housing the wrong person with them

Efficient use of social housing: 3 bedroom house, only a married couple in it, move to a smaller home, reallocate the multi bedroom house to a family that needs it and will utilise it. Give some form of relocation compensation or maybe have a slightly higher price range for these smaller houses to make them more attractive. Is it "uncaring" , no, they have had use of a house for ages. it is not theirs, it is the states to allocate as required.

Finish off the ghost estates by getting small building firms in to complete the work. sell them as affordable housing and provide public transport for X years to the nearest population centre with a decent commute time. Better yet, hire unemployed people looking for social housing to build the houses and then give them one at the end of their apprenticeship - then we get a shed load of qualified builders as well.

Convert NAMA held buildings into mid-term accommodation for families on the waiting lists. But the condition is that when a house comes up that is suitable there is no rejection allowed. - Houses offered would need to be checked for suitability (there have been some awful holes offered to people as family homes. maybe introduce a crime index into the criteria - ie: you cant house kids somewhere the breaking/mugging/car theft rate is greater than some national average).

You forgot the other option - kill the poor

ILoveYourVibes

Donald Trump wrote: »

You forgot the other option - kill the poor

Its happening. Homeless people dying on the streets.

Eric Cartman

Donald Trump wrote: »

You forgot the other option - kill the poor

A smashing idea, but who will keep the pubs open on weekdays.

Sweet.Science

People need to follow the most successful model when it comes to obtaining property.

Have 3 kids . Claim single mothers allowance and declare homeless. Live in a hub for a few months and get your house for €30 a week ( optional )

Your partner who works full time then moves in with you


Live the rest of your life very comfortably.

maccored

ELM327 wrote: »

Who is forcing them to?
Plenty of 3+ bed houses outside dublin for sub 100k, meaning the mortgage would be below 500p/m.

where, Leitrim?

ELM327

Eric Cartman wrote: »

A smashing idea, but who will keep the pubs open on weekdays.

Paddy power would go out of business

ELM327

gibgodsman wrote: »

You live in Athboy, which is basically in the middle of nowhere, where do you work? If not in Athboy how much are you now paying to get to work? Also there is currently 0 properties to rent in Athboy..... so yeah....

I dont rent in athboy I own, hence the low mortgage.
But I spend between 300 and 500 per month on fuel. (depends on car, current skoda is about 300p/m, previous e60 535d was close ti 500)


45 minute commute for 700 p/m fuel + mortgage vs 2k + mortgage in dublin?

ELM327

maccored wrote: »

where, Leitrim?

Meath, westmeath, longford,cavan,kildare

Eric Cartman

ELM327 wrote: »

Paddy power would go out of business

Has nobody thought about the drug dealers, where will jew customers and recruits come from, you’d ruin an industry.

dudara

Donald Trump wrote: »

You forgot the other option - kill the poor

DT - I’m going to give you the benefit of the doubt there.

But a warning to all posters, making jokes/gags about eliminating all “scum” or “scrotes” or “bottom feeders” etc is not acceptable.

dudara

ebbsy

Do you know what I d'ont understand.

Yesterday at the Point they were collecting for the homeless.

Today in Dealz supermarket they are asking would I like to donate to the homeless.

Then I walk down Henry Street and across O'Connell Street and I am stepping over people sleeping rough.

So where is all this cash going ?

weldoninhio

ebbsy wrote: »

Do you know what I d'ont understand.

Yesterday at the Point they were collecting for the homeless.

Today in Dealz supermarket they are asking would I like to donate to the homeless.

Then I walk down Henry Street and across O'Connell Street and I am stepping over people sleeping rough.

So where is all this cash going ?

The Homeless Industry, those CEO's don't pay for themselves!!!

Plumbthedepths

ebbsy wrote:

So where is all this cash going ?

So there was three opportunities for you to ask yesterday, did you?

Boggles

markodaly wrote: »

If we want to build social housing then we need to raise money for this,

Not as much you think.

Get away from social and think affordable. Mental notion in this country I know.

Not once in 30-40 years has building more houses in this country led to lower prices except for fleeting busts.

What's a major cost factor in building a house? Land.

The LDA was set up that reason and with good intent but for some reason it has focused on acquiring private land instead of releasing our (state) land, it's also quite glacial but because it's in it's infancy it gets somewhat of a pass.

Think of it as an IDA for the citizens, but instead of handing land to trillion dollar companies it gives it to the people instead essentially.

I'm sure though like everything there will be gouge or "excuse" to gouge.

There is solutions there, solution that won't cost that much or take much time (relative) to implement.

The real benefit of something like the LDA will take decades to fully appreciate, if it gets off the ground at all.

It is common practice in some EU countries.

Dude89

rireland wrote: »

https://www.daft.ie/sligo/houses-for-rent/ballinode/no-1-brookfield-ballinode-sligo-1944589/

Nice 3 bed in Sligo for 280 a month.

You could afford this on the dole.

I know if I was facing homelessness I wouldn't care if I had to move across the country. I'd rather move 2 hours away than be homeless.

Student house ye clown.

James Brown

Boggles wrote: »

Not as much you think.

Get away from social and think affordable. Mental notion in this country I know.

Not once in 30-40 years has building more houses in this country led to lower prices except for fleeting busts.

What's a major cost factor in building a house? Land.

The LDA was set up that reason and with good intent but for some reason it has focused on acquiring private land instead of releasing our (state) land, it's also quite glacial but because it's in it's infancy it gets somewhat of a pass.

Think of it as an IDA for the citizens, but instead of handing land to trillion dollar companies it gives it to the people instead essentially.

I'm sure though like everything there will be gouge or "excuse" to gouge.

There is solutions there, solution that won't cost that much or take much time (relative) to implement.

The real benefit of something like the LDA will take decades to fully appreciate, if it gets off the ground at all.

It is common practice in some EU countries.

But we have been getting away from it and we've record breaking fallout year on year because we've chosen the private market's needs over the tax payer's.

splinter65

weldoninhio wrote: »

The Homeless Industry, those CEO's don't pay for themselves!!!

And their PAs can’t pay their rent without your kind donation either...

The Specialist

ebbsy wrote: »

Do you know what I d'ont understand.

Yesterday at the Point they were collecting for the homeless.

Today in Dealz supermarket they are asking would I like to donate to the homeless.

Then I walk down Henry Street and across O'Connell Street and I am stepping over people sleeping rough.

So where is all this cash going ?

This is the reason why I always ask “what type of homeless?” when these people are asking for money. Enough of my money is wasted on these free houses for all chancers through taxation, I won’t be giving any of them a ****ing cent through a collection bucket. The ones sleeping on the streets are the ones we should be concerned about the most, the other 99% are playing a game with a house as the prize and they can **** off.

Graces7

The Specialist wrote: »

This is the reason why I always ask “what type of homeless?” when these people are asking for money. Enough of my money is wasted on these free houses for all chancers through taxation, I won’t be giving any of them a ****ing cent through a collection bucket. The ones sleeping on the streets are the ones we should be concerned about the most, the other 99% are playing a game with a house as the prize and they can **** off.

Many of those sleeping rough are there as they are habituated to that life. My family work in Canada with the homeless , and that term there refers only to those sleeping rough. Not those in hotels or hubs who have a roof over their head. After a few months sleeping rough it becomes very difficult for them to be homed. These are the really needy ones.

killanena

ELM327 wrote:

They can however move elsewhere. There is no crisis, just an excess in demand for dublin properties which does not exist elsewhere. Plenty of houses in Longford. Cheap too.

I live in Clare and went to an apartment viewing yesterday that was only posted on daft 1 day prior. 2 bed room, nothing fancy at all. 27 young couples like ourselves attended.. Unless you know the right people it is very hard to find accommodation in all urban areas outside of Dublin too at the moment. Yes it would be easier to find shared accommodation but we have a child so that's not going to work.