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The glorious 12th

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  • Registered Users Posts: 68,150 ✭✭✭✭FrancieBrady


    I see where the British prime minister Boris Johnson in response to a question was unable to say how many counties there are in Northern Ireland and could only name one, Londonderry! And the loyalists /DUP think this guy will look after them!

    Seriously? Have you a link Dan?


  • Registered Users Posts: 8,171 ✭✭✭realdanbreen


    I see where the British prime minister Boris Johnson in response to a question was unable to say how many counties there are in Northern Ireland and could only name one, Londonderry! And the loyalists /DUP think this guy will look after them!

    Seriously? Have you a link Dan?
    it was on tv the other night, one of those independent channels I think called ETV+


  • Registered Users Posts: 11,481 ✭✭✭✭downcow


    gwalk wrote: »
    Couldn't even name a real place ��

    Londonderry is a myth, its Derry

    The irony in these two statements is humorous if not a little shocking


  • Registered Users Posts: 11,481 ✭✭✭✭downcow


    I seen the police are out in force to help contractors remove an anti-interment bonfire in Belfast. Pity they don't enforce such actions on the 11th night bonfire's instead of letting the bully boys win.

    Maybe the difference is that SF and SDLP want the bonfire's gone

    They dare not touch these but
    https://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/news/northern-ireland/tyres-pile-up-as-talks-over-contentious-bonfire-in-the-bogside-go-on-38384665.html


  • Registered Users Posts: 11,481 ✭✭✭✭downcow


    Just wee toe rags building the bonfire that the community there don't want but the police handling is very telling. Where they said they could not guarantee the contractors safety on the days leading to the 11th but can today.

    You might have to withdraw that statement in the same way as the PSNI have just withdrawn
    https://www.thejournal.ie/police-belfast-anti-internment-bonfire-4757312-Aug2019/?utm_source=shortlink


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  • Registered Users Posts: 22,061 ✭✭✭✭citytillidie


    downcow wrote: »

    Another bonfire not wanted by the majority of the community and wee toe rags will be at the cause of it.

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  • Registered Users Posts: 22,061 ✭✭✭✭citytillidie


    downcow wrote: »
    You might have to withdraw that statement in the same way as the PSNI have just withdrawn
    https://www.thejournal.ie/police-belfast-anti-internment-bonfire-4757312-Aug2019/?utm_source=shortlink

    With drawn now they got their headlines

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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,424 ✭✭✭janfebmar


    it was on tv the other night, one of those independent channels I think called ETV+

    Have googled your claim that Boris only could name one Irish county, there is no proof or mention of that on the interwebs that I can see.

    I can only conclude it is fake news as if it happened others would have commented on it.


  • Registered Users Posts: 12,662 ✭✭✭✭The Nal




  • Registered Users Posts: 68,150 ✭✭✭✭FrancieBrady


    The Nal wrote: »

    No point posting that, that is below the threshold for those who blissfully think the GFA cured all this. Like the British famously had 'an acceptable level of violence' so too do they.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 8,171 ✭✭✭realdanbreen


    janfebmar wrote: »
    it was on tv the other night, one of those independent channels I think called ETV+

    Have googled your claim that Boris only could name one Irish county, there is no proof or mention of that on the interwebs that I can see.

    I can only conclude it is fake news as if it happened others would have commented on it.
    I don’t care what you conclude I can only go on what I saw on TV. You seem surprised that he wouldn't know much about North, seriously! You think any of his predecessors knew much more about the place?


  • Registered Users Posts: 22,061 ✭✭✭✭citytillidie


    I don’t care what you conclude I can only go on what I saw on TV. You seem surprised that he wouldn't know much about North, seriously! You think any of his predecessors knew much more about the place?

    Sure look at the last NI secretary she did not know much about NI when she was appointed.

    "I freely admit that when I started this job, I didn't understand some of the deep-seated and deep-rooted issues that there are in Northern Ireland," she said.

    "I didn't understand things like when elections are fought for example in Northern Ireland, people who are nationalists don't vote for unionist parties and vice-versa

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  • Registered Users Posts: 4,845 ✭✭✭timthumbni


    Kill all huns (Protestants) , 18 Brits were blown to bits haha, stabbings, petrol bombs etc etc.

    I seem to remember a poster on here full of bum and bluster about how young nationalists were all into education, travel and Gaelic games.

    Did the wans in newry, new lodge and Londonderry not get the memo?


  • Registered Users Posts: 8,171 ✭✭✭realdanbreen


    I don’t care what you conclude I can only go on what I saw on TV. You seem surprised that he wouldn't know much about North, seriously! You think any of his predecessors knew much more about the place?

    Sure look at the last NI secretary she did not know much about NI when she was appointed.

    "I freely admit that when I started this job, I didn't understand some of the deep-seated and deep-rooted issues that there are in Northern Ireland," she said.

    "I didn't understand things like when elections are fought for example in Northern Ireland, people who are nationalists don't vote for unionist parties and vice-versa
    Sure the young fella that was there before her said he couldn't get over the fact that Dublin was less than 2 hours drive from Belfast! The British government don't even bother sending these gems on a two day course before sending them over!


  • Registered Users Posts: 22,061 ✭✭✭✭citytillidie


    timthumbni wrote: »
    Kill all huns (Protestants) , 18 Brits were blown to bits haha, stabbings, petrol bombs etc etc.

    I seem to remember a poster on here full of bum and bluster about how young nationalists were all into education, travel and Gaelic games.

    Did the wans in newry, new lodge and Londonderry not get the memo?

    Difference is most nationalist communities don't want these bonfire's and political entity will not attend.

    11th night bonfire's full of hate and unionist communities see it as their culture with political entity defending them and welcoming them

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  • Registered Users Posts: 6,164 ✭✭✭munsterlegend


    Difference is most nationalist communities don't want these bonfire's and political entity will not attend.

    11th night bonfire's full off hate and unionist communities see it as their culture with political entity defending them and welcoming them

    You had a DUP politician taking a selfie with her partner as the tricolour was burning on the bonfire. Funny enough Unionist politician twitter accounts go very quiet in July before the 12th.


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    Sure look at the last NI secretary she did not know much about NI when she was appointed.

    "I freely admit that when I started this job, I didn't understand some of the deep-seated and deep-rooted issues that there are in Northern Ireland," she said.

    "I didn't understand things like when elections are fought for example in Northern Ireland, people who are nationalists don't vote for unionist parties and vice-versa

    Here’s the full quote, for accuracy.

    I didn’t understand things like when elections are fought for example in Northern Ireland - people who are nationalists don’t vote for unionist parties and vice-versa.

    “So, the parties fight for the election within their own community. Actually, the unionist parties fight the elections against each other in unionist communities and nationalists in nationalist communities.

    “That’s a very different world from the world I came from where in Staffordshire Moorlands I was fighting a Labour-held seat as a Conservative politician and I was trying to put forward why you would want to switch from voting Labour to voting Conservative.

    “That is so incredibly different and it’s when you realise that, and you see that, that you can then start to understand some of the things that the politicians say and some of the rhetoric.”

    https://www.politicshome.com/news/uk/uk-regions/northern-ireland/news/98027/karen-bradley-i-did-not-know-people-northern-ireland


  • Registered Users Posts: 68,150 ✭✭✭✭FrancieBrady


    I don’t care what you conclude I can only go on what I saw on TV. You seem surprised that he wouldn't know much about North, seriously! You think any of his predecessors knew much more about the place?

    I wouldn't be in slightest surprised that he said it. This was the Foreign Secretary that thought the border was similar to the one between Islington and Camden or some other London suburbs.


  • Registered Users Posts: 4,845 ✭✭✭timthumbni


    Difference is most nationalist communities don't want these bonfire's and political entity will not attend.

    Yet they appear to have no problem attending events that glorify terrorist murderers.

    Your fellow Londondoire woman in particular has been filmed in recent days dancing around the street like an embarrassing drunk uncle at a wedding and then roaring our day will come about 20 times to a rather morally bankrupt crowd of republican idiots in Strabane.


  • Registered Users Posts: 4,845 ✭✭✭timthumbni


    Just watching these violent Irish republicans from the new lodge on the news now. Oh dear. At least 3 stabbed apparently. Remind me not to stay in an air bnb there anyway. Very stabby.

    I see the ones on here who were very vocal about the peelers leaving the loyalist bonfire in east Belfast alone are now very quiet. Very telling.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 68,150 ✭✭✭✭FrancieBrady


    timthumbni wrote: »
    Just watching these violent Irish republicans from the new lodge on the news now. Oh dear. At least 3 stabbed apparently. Remind me not to stay in an air bnb there anyway. Very stabby.

    I see the ones on here who were very vocal about the peelers leaving the loyalist bonfire in east Belfast alone are now very quiet. Very telling.

    Poster suddenly appears on thread when there is much smaller scale reactionary bonfire by themuns to complain about it being 'quiet'. :)

    I already condemned this expression of violence before it inevitably happened. As have political representatives who were not gloating when the police pulled back nor have selfies taken with flags burning behind them.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,424 ✭✭✭janfebmar


    timthumbni wrote: »
    Yet they appear to have no problem attending events that glorify terrorist murderers.

    Your fellow Londondoire woman in particular has been filmed in recent days dancing around the street like an embarrassing drunk uncle at a wedding and then roaring our day will come about 20 times to a rather morally bankrupt crowd of republican idiots in Strabane.

    Well said. She was pathetic to see. And do not be annoyed at Francie complaining you suddenly appear, it would be worse if you were on these threads 100 hours a week like poor Francie seems to be.


  • Registered Users Posts: 22,061 ✭✭✭✭citytillidie


    No comebacks about politicians and bonfires so goal posts are moved again i see

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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,424 ✭✭✭janfebmar


    No comebacks about politicians and bonfires so goal posts are moved again i see

    Any comebacks about politicians attending events honouring dead paramilitaries I wonder?


  • Registered Users Posts: 68,150 ✭✭✭✭FrancieBrady


    janfebmar wrote: »
    Any comebacks about politicians attending events honouring dead paramilitaries I wonder?

    I don't think she made a statement after the event at the Carson statue.

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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,424 ✭✭✭janfebmar


    I think you will find he was more of a politician than a terrorist, and he never fired a gun or exploded a bomb.
    Nice try at whataboutery and deflection though, you only had to go back to a person of a century ago. What about more modern times?


  • Registered Users Posts: 68,150 ✭✭✭✭FrancieBrady


    janfebmar wrote: »
    I think you will find he was more of a politician than a terrorist, and he never fired a gun or exploded a bomb.
    Nice try at whataboutery and deflection though, you only had to go back to a person of a century ago. What about more modern times?

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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,424 ✭✭✭janfebmar


    peter-robinson-caught-on-camera-in-late-1984-during-a-visit-to-the-israel-lebanon-border-with-an-automatic-assault-rifle.png

    1445.jpg?width=300&quality=85&auto=format&fit=max&
    A photo taken on a foreign holiday does not count Francie. I had a photo taken when I held the wheel of a formula one sports car once when on holiday too, and in a pilot's seat , that does not make me a racing driver or a pilot.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,107 ✭✭✭gwalk


    No outrage from the Jaffas about the carry on in Tullyally, Co Derry??

    Imagine my shock at their selective outrage 🀗


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  • Registered Users Posts: 22,061 ✭✭✭✭citytillidie


    janfebmar wrote: »
    I think you will find he was more of a politician than a terrorist, and he never fired a gun or exploded a bomb.
    Nice try at whataboutery and deflection though, you only had to go back to a person of a century ago. What about more modern times?

    What like a loyalist UDA commander complaining abort Arlene ruining his street cred and all

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-northern-ireland-45437388

    Or the fact she was meeting loyalist members even giving lots of money via Stormont.

    Or Arlene again meeting a UDA leader after a murder

    https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2017/jun/11/arlene-fosters-stance-on-paramilitary-groups-brought-into-question

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