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Marches this Saturday

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    #62
    dudara
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    Moved from AH > CA


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    #63
    eviltwin
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    suicide_circus wrote: »
    a significant disparity in the attendance numbers of these two marches!

    Well that was to be expected really. Its not a competition.


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    #64
    suicide_circus
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    eviltwin wrote: »
    Well that was to be expected really. Its not a competition.

    not a close competition anyway


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    #65
    eviltwin
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    suicide_circus wrote: »
    not a close competition anyway

    Not a competition at all. Both issues are like chalk and cheese.


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    #66
    Danzy
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    Thrashssacre wrote: »
    I’m not exactly imagining a drag queen in a punch up with some aul lad from the country more-so that the pro life movement would be supported by the far right and they probably would have a presence there and the far left would be an advocate for trans pride so would likely have a presence at the earlier meeting.

    The far right broke the Kingpin in their car, so he can't be there.


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    #67
    suicide_circus
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    given all the pride hype and media coverage and the big pride parade last week you'd expect a bigger turn out at the pride event.


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    #68
    klaaaz
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    suicide_circus wrote: »
    given all the pride hype and media coverage and the big pride parade last week you'd expect a bigger turn out at the pride event.

    Which one? There was about 1.5m at the Pride event in London. Don't recall any hype about today's marches in Dublin.


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    #69
    Calhoun
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    I don't think they will get popular support until a definitive line in the Sand is drawn on the physician led transition versus self declaration.

    Allot of folk including myself are uncomfortable not having the right checks and balances in place.


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    #70
    suicide_circus
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    klaaaz wrote: »
    Which one? There was about 1.5m at the Pride event in London. Don't recall any hype about today's marches in Dublin.
    i meant trans event


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    #71
    klaaaz
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    suicide_circus wrote: »
    i meant trans event

    Where was all the "hype and media coverage" as you mentioned?

    Pics of the religious symbols including the Vatican flag from the anti-abortion march today

    https://www.thejournal.ie/pro-life-campaign-2019-4705381-Jul2019/


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    Spanish Eyes
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    Marches should only be allowed in the City Centre on sunday mornings between 10 and 12.

    The whole of the North Quays was gridlocked this afternoon, and I was not one bit happy about that. Now maybe it was something else but nothing came up on traffic feeds about collisions so it must have been the later march crossing OC Bridge and fecking the East Bound traffic down to Custom House for best part of an hour, if not more.

    Anyway. I don't know how the traders in CC cope. It's bad enough for them as it is.

    I was on the bus BTW, thinking I was doing my bit for the traffic/environment. Nothing moving.


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    #73
    eviltwin
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    Spanish Eyes wrote: »
    Marches should only be allowed in the City Centre on sunday mornings between 10 and 12.

    The whole of the North Quays was gridlocked this afternoon, and I was not one bit happy about that. Now maybe it was something else but nothing came up on traffic feeds about collisions so it must have been the later march crossing OC Bridge and fecking the East Bound traffic down to Custom House for best part of an hour, if not more.

    Anyway. I don't know how the traders in CC cope. It's bad enough for them as it is.

    I was on the bus BTW, thinking I was doing my bit for the traffic/environment. Nothing moving.

    Usually marches end around Merrion Square. The Rally for Life had speeches on the quays, seems like a stupid decision given the traffic in that area.


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    #74
    suicide_circus
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    klaaaz wrote: »
    Where was all the "hype and media coverage" as you mentioned?

    Pics of the religious symbols including the Vatican flag from the anti-abortion march today

    https://www.thejournal.ie/pro-life-campaign-2019-4705381-Jul2019/

    pride has had a lot of hype and coverage. im saying im surprised that another LGBT march in the same week didnt have a higher attendance thats all.


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    #75
    eviltwin
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    suicide_circus wrote: »
    pride has had a lot of hype and coverage. im saying im surprised that another LGBT march in the same week didnt have a higher attendance thats all.

    It's a niche event. Not all LGB+ people or their supporters would necessarily endorse trans rights.


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    #76
    rafatoni
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    The whole pride thing already has more splinter groups than dissident republicans.

    LGBT, LGBT+, LGBT trans, the rival LGBT parade last week thats anti main LGBT parade.... next week it will be the Real LGBT parade.


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    #77
    alan partridge aha
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    This trans March has to be a piss take surely.


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    #78
    [Deleted User]
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    alan partridge aha wrote:
    This trans March has to be a piss take surely.

    Break the binary. It's absolutely ridiculous.


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    pq0n1ct4ve8zf5
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    suicide_circus wrote: »
    given all the pride hype and media coverage and the big pride parade last week you'd expect a bigger turn out at the pride event.

    Why? The main event was last week and this is an event for a minority within a minority following very shortly afterwards, not anything like as well established, and contentious to varying degrees within and without the LGB demographic. A turn out of hundreds is pretty high imo.

    If there was a march next week for like, pro-life supporters with coeliac would you expect that niche event to be highly attended because the main one was on this week?


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    pq0n1ct4ve8zf5
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    rafatoni wrote: »
    The whole pride thing already has more splinter groups than dissident republicans.

    LGBT, LGBT+, LGBT trans, the rival LGBT parade last week thats anti main LGBT parade.... next week it will be the Real LGBT parade.

    Ok I don't think I like the spirit of this post but I would definitely go see what the craic was at the Provo Pride:D


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    alan partridge aha
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    Bronson Faithful Guitarist wrote: »
    Why? The main event was last week and this is an event for a minority within a minority following very shortly afterwards, not anything like as well established, and contentious to varying degrees within and without the LGB demographic. A turn out of hundreds is pretty high imo.

    If there was a march next week for like, pro-life supporters with coeliac would you expect that niche event to be highly attended because the main one was on this week?

    A minority within a minority repeat, give me a break.


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    #82
    suicide_circus
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    trans is to LGB and coeliac is to pro-life


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    pq0n1ct4ve8zf5
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    alan partridge aha wrote: »
    A minority within a minority repeat, give me a break.

    LGBT people are a minority, yes? And trans people are a minority within that.

    It's a statement of bare fact, where's your problem with it?


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    #84
    klaaaz
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    <SNIP>
    Slurs like this are a reason to have a Pride. The rest of your post must have been in jest as the religious folk at that other march are not very fond of trans people hence the separation of the marches today.


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    pq0n1ct4ve8zf5
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    suicide_circus wrote: »
    trans is to LGB and coeliac is to pro-life

    As a percentage they might be!

    And please, don't let my clumsy analogies stop you defending your point. Go ahead.


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    #86
    alan partridge aha
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    Bronson Faithful Guitarist wrote: »
    LGBT people are a minority, yes? And trans people are a minority within that.

    It's a statement of bare fact, where's your problem with it?[/QUOTE

    I think we are gone past peak LGBT x y and z at this stage. I'm fu5ked up been bombarded with pride at this stage as I suspect alot of people are.


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    #87
    branie2
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    The big one is on in the north this Friday


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    #88
    [Deleted User]
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    Bronson Faithful Guitarist wrote:
    If there was a march next week for like, pro-life supporters with coeliac would you expect that niche event to be highly attended because the main one was on this week?

    No but if they disrupted traffic on the capital's main thoroughfare for such a niche grouo on a Saturday afternoon I'd be pissed off.

    What was the point?


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    #89
    super_furry
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    Wait, the anti-choice crowd want a second referendum? On what basis? They got like 33 per cent of the vote.


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    pq0n1ct4ve8zf5
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    [Deleted User] wrote: »
    No but if they disrupted traffic on the capital's main thoroughfare for such a niche grouo on a Saturday afternoon I'd be pissed off.

    What was the point?

    Big event big. Small event small.

    Traffic no relevant to point. Traffic separate point.

    I can have a go at simplifying that more if you're still confused but it'll be tough.


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    #91
    splinter65
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    klaaaz wrote: »
    So in your view, women's rights are a bad thing and religious rule is a good thing. So undemocratic.

    You don’t think people who don’t share your world view should be allowed to demonstrate in any way. That’s fine. Be honest. But don’t pretend that you feel unsafe or whatever it is that a religion is going to hurt you when there is no religious demonstration going on.
    Stop being such a miserable coward and own your bigotry.
    You don’t think pro life people should be allowed to march.
    This is a democracy so they are allowed.
    That makes you a bit angry.
    So what?


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