Marches this Saturday

Thrashssacre

So while scrolling through my Facebook I noticed people talking about two events both taking part at the garden or remembrance. The first at 12 pm a transgender pride march then at 2 pm the rally for life anti abortion rally. Now surely anyone with a brain can see the political polarization between those two and having them march on the same day at the same place 2 hours apart isn’t exactly the best plan especially with the increase in political violence at events in the last couple of years. I know this hasn’t really made its way to Ireland but there’s no reason why it couldn’t especially with such idiotic planning. Anyone else see there being trouble Between either side?

Perhaps we need to set up a new garden, the Garden of Fúck You, where they can all meet from now on?

Paul Gogarty can do the opening ceremony.

zuxa gif iwo

i thought it was going to be a different type of parade...

sabat

I would guess that transsexuals and pro-lifers are two of the most placid groups of people you could meet.

Thrashssacre

sabat wrote: »

I would guess that transsexuals and pro-lifers are two of the most placid groups of people you could meet.

I’m not exactly imagining a drag queen in a punch up with some aul lad from the country more-so that the pro life movement would be supported by the far right and they probably would have a presence there and the far left would be an advocate for trans pride so would likely have a presence at the earlier meeting.

zuxa gif iwo

sabat wrote: »

I would guess that transsexuals and pro-lifers are two of the most placid groups of people you could meet.

they're all right by themselves, but wait till the TERFs show up...

micky jammy delahunty

Thrashssacre wrote: »

Now surely anyone with a brain can see the political polarization between those two and having them march on the same day at the same place 2 hours apart isn’t exactly the best plan especially with the increase in political violence at events in the last couple of years.

What's wrong with political violence?....Our fine nation was established through political violence....but its' founders lost their stomach for butchery and blood cleansing, before they could eradicate the West Brits...The shower who golf clapped and handed out cups of tea to the Crowns thugs as they marched in from Dun Laoghaire, to slaughter those, who had the temerity to state; that all Irishmen should be free...and not just the West Brits, in their semi-and-parasitic-freedom...That all Irishmen should have freedom


Have you ever been to one of these anti-abortion gettogethers...They wheel out, young (young, may I add), far-right Irish catholic priests, who go on rants about the Labour Party, and threaten violence (though I have no idea who is going to cash that cheque their arses are trying to write)


We have to start asking ourselves....difficult questions....And I would like to live in a fantasy world, where these difficult questions did not need to be asked....but that is not the real world....and if we do not wish to see our, nation, have its' foundations slowly chipped away at and eroded, we must come up with solutions to these questions....we have no choice

We have no choice

we have no other choice

we have no choice


What needs to be done

Needs to be done

Thrashssacre

micky jammy delahunty wrote: »

What's wrong with political violence?....Our fine nation was established through political violence....but its' founders lost their stomach for butchery and blood cleansing, before they could eradicate the West Brits...The shower who golf clapped and handed out cups of tea to the Crowns thugs as they marched in from Dun Laoghaire, to slaughter those, who had the temerity to state; that all Irishmen should be free...and not just the West Brits, in their semi-and-parasitic-freedom...That all Irishmen should have freedom


Have you ever been to one of these anti-abortion gettogethers...They wheel out, young (young, may I add), far-right Irish catholic priests, who go on rants about the Labour Party, and threaten violence (though I have no idea who is going to cash that cheque their arses are trying to write)


We have to start asking ourselves....difficult questions....And I would like to live in a fantasy world, where these difficult questions did not need to be asked....but that is not the real world....and if we do not wish to see our, nation, have its' foundations slowly chipped away at and eroded, we must come up with solutions to these questions....we have no choice

We have no choice

we have no other choice

we have no choice


What needs to be done

Needs to be done

Okay I’ll bite, in you’re mind what questions need to be asked and what needs to change about Ireland as a nation?

McDermotX

I think some people have far too much time on their hands.

ILoveYourVibes

micky jammy delahunty wrote: »

What's wrong with political violence?....Our fine nation was established through political violence....but its' founders lost their stomach for butchery and blood cleansing, before they could eradicate the West Brits...The shower who golf clapped and handed out cups of tea to the Crowns thugs as they marched in from Dun Laoghaire, to slaughter those, who had the temerity to state; that all Irishmen should be free...and not just the West Brits, in their semi-and-parasitic-freedom...That all Irishmen should have freedom

''Before they could eradicate the west brits''???

''What's wrong with political violence''??

''Blood Cleansing''??

eviltwin

The first one will be over long before the second one begins

ToddyDoody

How can March be this Saturday when we're in July?

MarkY91

Thrashssacre wrote: »

So while scrolling through my Facebook I noticed people talking about two events both taking part at the garden or remembrance. The first at 12 pm a transgender pride march then at 2 pm the rally for life anti abortion rally. Now surely anyone with a brain can see the political polarization between those two and having them march on the same day at the same place 2 hours apart isn’t exactly the best plan especially with the increase in political violence at events in the last couple of years. I know this hasn’t really made its way to Ireland but there’s no reason why it couldn’t especially with such idiotic planning. Anyone else see there being trouble Between either side?

There's a gay pride AND a transgender pride? How many prides do these guys need?

lawred2

Jesus people love marching...

m5ex9oqjawdg2i

zuxa gif iwo wrote: »

they're all right by themselves, but wait till the TERFs show up...

Oh no, what is this new bullshíttery? Something something radical feminist?

People are so lost without their labels.

suicide_circus

hmmm....if a transgender gene could be detected in utero...

Mrs OBumble

suicide_circus wrote: »

hmmm....if a transgender gene could be detected in utero...

Or maybe not so much a gene as in-utero hormone exposure. Which can be measured pretty well, based on what I've been told.



The two groups may have more in common than you - or they - suspect.

corner of hells

lawred2 wrote: »

Jesus people love marching...

And "flegs" , don't forget July is marching season.

Omackeral

lawred2 wrote: »

Jesus people love marching...

Especially in July.

Can't think of a worse way to spend a Saturday.

Canis Lupus

Sure everyone needs a hobby.

greenspurs

How many fcuking marches for pride do all these newly invented groups need ?!? ffs …...

Berserker

Are trans people not included in the Pride parade?

zuxa gif iwo wrote: »

i thought it was going to be a different type of parade...

Need to go to Donegal for that march.

Berserker

Omackeral wrote: »

Especially in July.

Can't think of a worse way to spend a Saturday.

I can think of a few. Shopping with my wife, for starters.

lawred2

Berserker wrote: »

I can think of a few. Shopping with my wife, for starters.

both are quite simply an atrocious way to spend any day of the week - however at least you're not annoying anyone else but yourself when shopping with the mrs

branie2

Marching is good exercise

JohnnyFlash

Marches tends to attract losers. Obviously the right to peaceful protest is a central tenet of democracy, but marching tends to be a spectacularly ineffectual way to express displeasure.

I was in Dublin CC when one of the water charges marches was taking place. Every workshy chancer, crusty, and malcontent in the country was in attendance.

branie2

JohnnyFlash wrote: »

Marches tends to attract losers. Obviously the right to peaceful protest is a central tenet of democracy, but marching tends to be a spectacularly ineffectual way to express displeasure.

I was in Dublin CC when one of the water charges marches was taking place. Every workshy chancer, crusty, and malcontent in the country was in attendance.

I thought you'd find them at water meter installations

klaaaz

JohnnyFlash wrote: »

I was in Dublin CC when one of the water charges marches was taking place. Every workshy chancer, crusty, and malcontent in the country was in attendance.

FG propaganda.

dodderangler

How many Jaysus parades do the LGBTQ’s need. Ffs it’s ridiculous. Can we have a straight person parade every week aswell? By parading you’re literally singling yourself out as it is.

klaaaz

dodderangler wrote: »

How many Jaysus parades do the LGBTQ’s need. Ffs it’s ridiculous. Can we have a straight person parade every week aswell? By parading you’re literally singling yourself out as it is.

The corporates have overtaken the annual Pride as an advertising their own brand march. The Trans pride is for specific trans issues, it'll probably be a small march so won't really disrupt people's shopping in Brown Thomas.

The Republic of Gilead, oops anti-abortion march is our own right wingers trying to turn the clock back for their wish of religious rule to return.

dodderangler

klaaaz wrote: »

The corporates have overtaken the annual Pride as an advertising their own brand march. The Trans pride is for specific trans issues, it'll probably be a small march so won't really disrupt people's shopping in Brown Thomas.

The Republic of Gilead, oops anti-abortion march is our own right wingers trying to turn the clock back for their wish of religious rule to return.

But what’s wrong with that? It’s their religious beliefs. If it was Muslims marching on something no one would bat an eyelid

klaaaz

dodderangler wrote: »

But what’s wrong with that? It’s their religious beliefs. If it was Muslims marching on something no one would bat an eyelid

Alot wrong with it, Ireland is a secular republic. Religious rule(in this case Catholics) is horrific for anyone who doesn't obey their religious beliefs, i'd rather live under secular laws than religious laws dictating life and women lose their rights too!

_blaaz

JohnnyFlash wrote: »

Marches tends to attract losers. Obviously the right to peaceful protest is a central tenet of democracy, but marching tends to be a spectacularly ineffectual way to express displeasure.

I was in Dublin CC when one of the water charges marches was taking place. Every workshy chancer, crusty, and malcontent in the country was in attendance.

Surely the fact that they didnt introduce water charges is sign the marches worked




As for the OP...i cant see someone could be pro transgendar and anti abortion....they are 2 completly different subjects

Thrashssacre

klaaaz wrote: »

The corporates have overtaken the annual Pride as an advertising their own brand march. The Trans pride is for specific trans issues, it'll probably be a small march so won't really disrupt people's shopping in Brown Thomas.

The Republic of Gilead, oops anti-abortion march is our own right wingers trying to turn the clock back for their wish of religious rule to return.

My protest goodddd other people’s protest baddd.

That ain’t how democracy works pal.

klaaaz

Thrashssacre wrote: »

My protest goodddd other people’s protest baddd.

That ain’t how democracy works pal.

So in your view, women's rights are a bad thing and religious rule is a good thing. So undemocratic.

Thrashssacre

klaaaz wrote: »

So in your view, women's rights are a bad thing and religious rule is a good thing. So undemocratic.

You’re oversimplifying the pro life movement for a start you’re assuming there are no atheists in the movement or women for that matter. It’s a bit of a daft idea to be honest.

dodderangler

klaaaz wrote: »

Alot wrong with it, Ireland is a secular republic. Religious rule(in this case Catholics) is horrific for anyone who doesn't obey their religious beliefs, i'd rather live under secular laws than religious laws dictating life and women lose their rights too!

Catholic’s are probably the most understanding. If we weren’t then no other religion would be allowed here. Guarantee you go a Muslim only country you won’t find one Catholic Church. Catholic Churches are being destroyed by other religions in catholic based countries.

klaaaz

Thrashssacre wrote: »

You’re oversimplifying the pro life movement for a start you’re assuming there are no atheists in the movement or women for that matter. It’s a bit of a daft idea to be honest.

Nope, full of religious nuts.

dodderangler wrote: »

Catholic’s are probably the most understanding. If we weren’t then no other religion would be allowed here. Guarantee you go a Muslim only country you won’t find one Catholic Church. Catholic Churches are being destroyed by other religions in catholic based countries.

Quick deflection and target Muslims! Catholic's who endorsed the sexual abuse of kids, the stealing of babies by their church, the dumping of children's bodies into sewage tanks etc. No thanks for a return of that religious rule.

I oppose all forms of religious rule from whatever religion. It's a secular republic not a Gilead one.

Thrashssacre

klaaaz wrote: »

Nope, full of religious nuts.



Quick deflection and target Muslims! Catholic's who endorsed the sexual abuse of kids, the stealing of babies by their church, the dumping of children's bodies into sewage tanks etc. No thanks for a return of that religious rule.

I oppose all forms of religious rule from whatever religion. It's a secular republic not a Gilead one.

You have preconceived notions and an axe to grind with the church you’re not gonna listen to anything someone tells you on here, enjoy burying you’re head in the sand though, I’m out.

ohnonotgmail

dodderangler wrote: »

But what’s wrong with that? It’s their religious beliefs. If it was Muslims marching on something no one would bat an eyelid

LOL. there would be a thread with a 1000 posts before the end of the day.

riffmongous

Omackeral wrote: »

Especially in July.

Can't think of a worse way to spend a Saturday.

Have you ever been on one? They can actually be pretty fun if the weather is good and you have a few mates around

dodderangler

ohnonotgmail wrote: »

LOL. there would be a thread with a 1000 posts before the end of the day.

There’s be hundred people banned as well because were not allowed to TAlk about them

ohnonotgmail

dodderangler wrote: »

There’s be hundred people banned as well because were not allowed to TAlk about them

Some people do nothing but talk about them and they are not banned so your premise is incorrect.

dodderangler

klaaaz wrote: »

Nope, full of religious nuts.



Quick deflection and target Muslims! Catholic's who endorsed the sexual abuse of kids, the stealing of babies by their church, the dumping of children's bodies into sewage tanks etc. No thanks for a return of that religious rule.

I oppose all forms of religious rule from whatever religion. It's a secular republic not a Gilead one.

Child abuse and sexual assaults are in every religion.
Especially with Muslims. Child marriages and killings for family honour and not to mention the hanging of the gay community and then women of infidelity despite the fact most are raped and killed for not defending themselves. Yeah don’t talk against catholic’s when Muslims are far worse.

dodderangler

ohnonotgmail wrote: »

Some people do nothing but talk about them and they are not banned so your premise is incorrect.

Wrong. I’ve seen plenty banned over discussing them. Seems it’s fine to hate against catholic people but not ok to talk of other religions.

ohnonotgmail

dodderangler wrote: »

Wrong. I’ve seen plenty banned over discussing them. Seems it’s fine to hate against catholic people but not ok to talk of other religions.

I bet you haven't seen plenty banned just for discussing them.

dodderangler

ohnonotgmail wrote: »

I bet you haven't seen plenty banned just for discussing them.

Yes I have. I’ve no reason to lie to any of you. Not my problem if you haven’t seen it. Guess you’re the sort that won’t discuss them for fear of being banned then.

ohnonotgmail

dodderangler wrote: »

Yes I have. I’ve no reason to lie to any of you. Not my problem if you haven’t seen it. Guess you’re the sort that won’t discuss them for fear of being banned then.

I've discussed them many times. not been banned yet.

dodderangler

ohnonotgmail wrote: »

I've discussed them many times. not been banned yet.

Well I have.

Mrcaramelchoc

I was at the killarney 4th of july parade yesterday and there was a pride section in it.some woman?in it shouting at children and their families "you are loved you are loved you are all loved".
Absolutely no need for that s hite at all.

Pride people listen up.its rapidly going towards overkill and people will get sick to the teeth of it.i for one am sick of it.

dodderangler

Mrcaramelchoc wrote: »

I was at the killarney 4th of july parade yesterday and there was a pride section in it.some woman?in it shouting at children and their families "you are loved you are loved you are all loved".
Absolutely no need for that s hite at all.

Pride people listen up.its rapidly going towards overkill and people will get sick to the teeth of it.i for one am sick of it.

They’ll shout at you for your opinion