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Antifa [Mod Warning on post #1 - updated 08/08/19]

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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,084 ✭✭✭statesaver


    Brian? wrote: »

    You hate Antifa for being violent thugs but would be happy to see them shot?

    Internet hardman act aside, how are you not aware of that irony?

    That's not my post.

    I sarcastically agree though.

    Clown.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,254 ✭✭✭LiquidZeb


    statesaver wrote: »
    MLK a racist ? Tell me more.

    Martin Luther King said it, have you heard of him ? Obviously not.
    I would put a link to the video(s) but I feel you need to do it yourself, think of it as an educational awakening.

    Your only fooling yourself.

    Somehow I don't think MLK would find much in common with your crew anyway. I wasn't referring to the quote I was referring to the group illusion by the lads here who've persuaded themselves that antifa and other activist groups are somehow racists while they spew nothing other than bile.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,084 ✭✭✭statesaver


    LiquidZeb wrote: »
    Somehow I don't think MLK would find much in common with your crew anyway. I wasn't referring to the quote I was referring to the group illusion by the lads here who've persuaded themselves that antifa and other activist groups are somehow racists while they spew nothing other than bile.

    ?????? Utter BS ^^^^^

    Google MLK speech about white liberals. I really don't think you have.


  • Registered Users Posts: 16,506 ✭✭✭✭nullzero
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    LiquidZeb wrote: »
    The oldest trick in the racist old boardsie playbook. 'Da anti racists are da real racists you guys !!!!' you're not fooling anyone.

    The over compensation of white liberals in relation to minorities can reasonably be associated with their own inherent racism.

    The notion that minorities require rich white kids to fight their corner for them suggests a lack of capability on the part of said minorities to stand up for themselves, which is racist.

    Personally I have faith in people of any ethnicity, colour or nationality to succeed in life without assistance from outside agents. All people in my eyes are equal, any discrimination along these grounds is wrong, learn to respect minorities enough to allow them sovereignty over themselves and their lives.

    Yet again we see the spectre of proud boys and other far right groups being raised.
    Being against Antifa doesn't automatically make one a far right extremist. The inability to engage in nuanced thought processes by some here is incredible.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,748 ✭✭✭ExMachina1000


    Brian? wrote: »

    You hate Antifa for being violent thugs but would be happy to see them shot?

    Internet hardman act aside, how are you not aware of that irony?

    But I'm not an internet hardman. I'm a normal individual with a job , friends, hobbies and a life.

    These people are not the same as normal people.

    Dressed in black, covering their faces and not allowing anyone to have an opinion different than theirs. Authoritarian like

    I don't know what went wrong in their childhoods afterwards but they need a boot up the collective hole.
    People shouldn't be encouraging them


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    But I'm not an internet hardman. I'm a normal individual with a job , friends, hobbies and a life.

    These people are not the same as normal people.

    Dressed in black, covering their faces and not allowing anyone to have an opinion different than theirs. Authoritarian like

    I don't know what went wrong in their childhoods afterwards but they need a boot up the collective hole.
    People shouldn't be encouraging them

    You're calling for them to be shot by unidentifiable law enforcement. Which seems like a pretty sure fire way to further inflame protests around police brutality. You also haven't recognised that riots are confined to certain areas and Trump's approach to is only serving to make them worse. You'll also find the vast majority of protesters are perfectly normal.....


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,748 ✭✭✭ExMachina1000


    You're calling for them to be shot by unidentifiable law enforcement. Which seems like a pretty sure fire way to further inflame protests around police brutality. You also haven't recognised that riots are confined to certain areas and Trump's approach to is only serving to make them worse. You'll also find the vast majority of protesters are perfectly normal.....

    I'm referring to the Antifa heads. The dressed in black, flag carrying, only one opinion allowed type of clown


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    I'm referring to the Antifa heads. The dressed in black, flag carrying, only one opinion allowed type of clown

    And you think shooting them will help calm the situation? It frankly make the US look even more authoritarian and militaristic. You also don't seem that concerned the police have injured plenty of people intentionally........


  • Registered Users Posts: 82,035 ✭✭✭✭Overheal


    Fascists appear to attack BLM drivers for driving cars marked with political slogans

    https://twitter.com/AttorneyCrump/status/1286092494141349888?s=20


  • Registered Users Posts: 82,035 ✭✭✭✭Overheal


    Just single out the ring leaders and shoot them. Problem solved.

    Found the fascist. Ironic:
    Not allowing anyone to have an opinion different than theirs. Authoritarian like
    I'm referring to the Antifa heads. The dressed in black, flag carrying, only one opinion allowed type of clown


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  • Registered Users Posts: 16,506 ✭✭✭✭nullzero
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    Overheal wrote: »
    Fascists appear to attack BLM drivers for driving cars marked with political slogans

    https://twitter.com/AttorneyCrump/status/1286092494141349888?s=20

    Morons.

    Maybe we should have a thread for Proud boys and other affiliated groups?


  • Registered Users Posts: 82,035 ✭✭✭✭Overheal


    nullzero wrote: »
    Morons.

    Maybe we should have a thread for Proud boys and other affiliated groups?

    2 inexorably linked sides, talked about fine together for thousands of posts already, don't deflect now.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,748 ✭✭✭ExMachina1000


    And you think shooting them will help calm the situation? It frankly make the US look even more authoritarian and militaristic. You also don't seem that concerned the police have injured plenty of people intentionally........

    The Us crime level is 6x Spains.
    The place is a kip in parts. There are hundreds of millions of guns in the country. The cops are heavily armed and everyone is on edge .

    6% of the population have been in the military.
    Black gangs and individuals are killing each other in huge numbers.

    White teens and wasters dressed in black , carrying flags and only allowing one opinion are benefiting nobody or helping anything.

    They shut be swatted down. Send them back to their basements.


  • Registered Users Posts: 16,506 ✭✭✭✭nullzero
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    Overheal wrote: »
    Found the fascist. Ironic:

    Is it acceptable to label somebody as a fascist without them explicitly stating that they have fascist leanings or something else substantive?

    I don't agree with shooting people for any reason, but even the right wing conservative types in America don't really qualify as fascist, even though it's tempting to label people in such a manner.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,748 ✭✭✭ExMachina1000


    Overheal wrote: »
    Found the fascist. Ironic:

    Lol.

    Portland massive


  • Registered Users Posts: 16,506 ✭✭✭✭nullzero
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    Overheal wrote: »
    2 inexorably linked sides, talked about fine together for thousands of posts already, don't deflect now.

    How did I deflect exactly?

    I called them morons, it's clear in the post you quoted.

    I merely asked should the two topics be given separate threads. It isn't unheard of for that to happen.

    It's interesting that you completely ignored my condemnation of the people in the video you posted and appropriated what I suggested as some sort of attempt at deflection.


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    The Us crime level is 6x Spains.
    The place is a kip in parts. There are hundreds of millions of guns in the country. The cops are heavily armed and everyone is on edge .

    6% of the population have been in the military.
    Black gangs and individuals are killing each other in huge numbers.

    White teens and wasters dressed in black , carrying flags and only allowing one opinion are benefiting nobody or helping anything.

    They shut be swatted down. Send them back to their basements.

    Cool, so you're calling for people to be shot and potentially killed... During protests on police brutality which is a very real issue and against the wishes of governors in the affected states. You want to make a situation worse. You also seem to be somewhat in denial that there is a very real issue in the police.


  • Registered Users Posts: 82,035 ✭✭✭✭Overheal


    nullzero wrote: »
    Is it acceptable to label somebody as a fascist without them explicitly stating that they have fascist leanings or something else substantive?

    I don't agree with shooting people for any reason, but even the right wing conservative types in America don't really qualify as fascist, even though it's tempting to label people in such a manner.

    The quote was plenty substantive.


  • Registered Users Posts: 82,035 ✭✭✭✭Overheal


    nullzero wrote: »
    How did I deflect exactly?

    I called them morons, it's clear in the post you quoted.

    I merely asked should the two topics be given separate threads. It isn't unheard of for that to happen.
    Just very peculiar of you 8000+ posts in to suddenly complain about it.
    It's interesting that you completely ignored my condemnation of the people in the video you posted and appropriated what I suggested as some sort of attempt at deflection.

    Because I don't care. They are morons.


  • Registered Users Posts: 16,506 ✭✭✭✭nullzero
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    Overheal wrote: »
    The quote was plenty substantive.

    So saying someone should be shot makes a person a fascist?

    What if a communist were to say it?

    It's not a sentiment that is peculiar to fascists would you not agree?


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  • Registered Users Posts: 16,506 ✭✭✭✭nullzero
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    Overheal wrote: »
    Just very peculiar of you 8000+ posts in to suddenly complain about it.



    Because I don't care. They are morons.

    Firstly I didn't complain, I made a suggestion. Please demonstrate your claim that I complained.

    Secondly, you don't care that I stated they are morons because they are morons?
    You just wish I had defended them don't you?

    The blatant sh1thousery on show here is pathetic. Anyone who disagrees with you must be a fascist, the mind boggles.


  • Registered Users Posts: 82,035 ✭✭✭✭Overheal


    nullzero wrote: »
    So saying someone should be shot makes a person a fascist?

    When that person's only crime is being prominent within a crowd of people protesting for their viewpoint, yes it is fascist.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,254 ✭✭✭LiquidZeb


    Overheal wrote: »
    Fascists appear to attack BLM drivers for driving cars marked with political slogans

    https://twitter.com/AttorneyCrump/status/1286092494141349888?s=20

    Are you sure it's not the driver's with the BLM slogans who are the real racists?


  • Registered Users Posts: 16,506 ✭✭✭✭nullzero
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    Overheal wrote: »
    When that person's only crime is being prominent within a crowd of people protesting for their viewpoint, yes it is fascist.

    What if the same criteria is applied to a left wing person saying a right wing person should be shot?

    In practice left wing extremism doesn't have any better of a track record for dealing with dissenting voices, the only difference between fascism and radical socialism or communism is that fascists tend to be more up front about their enthusiasm for silencing dissent.


  • Registered Users Posts: 82,035 ✭✭✭✭Overheal


    nullzero wrote: »
    Firstly I didn't complain, I made a suggestion. Please demonstrate your claim that I complained.
    You're doing it right now even.
    Secondly, you don't care that I stated they are morons because they are morons?
    You just wish I had defended them don't you?

    ?

    I did not care to comment on your "morons" comment. I happen to myself think the rightwingers were morons here. Frankly you could have been talking about the BLM motorists, either or both groups. It was an inconsequential, unsubstantive remark, a bit like a mental fart that needed no further engagement.

    For someone who yesterday claimed you weren't seeking my approval you seem very upset that I am not responding to each and every thought of yours with prose.
    nullzero wrote: »
    Your approval isn't something I'm concerned about.


  • Registered Users Posts: 82,035 ✭✭✭✭Overheal


    nullzero wrote: »
    What if the same criteria is applied to a left wing person saying a right wing person should be shot?

    Also fascist, obviously.

    Is this the part where I strop around and accuse you of expecting me to say something more sinister to make myself come off looking better in my posts?


  • Registered Users Posts: 16,506 ✭✭✭✭nullzero
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    Overheal wrote: »
    You're doing it right now even.



    ?

    I did not care to comment on your "morons" comment. I happen to myself think the rightwingers were morons here. Frankly you could have been talking about the BLM motorists, either or both groups. It was an inconsequential, unsubstantive remark, a bit like a mental fart that needed no further engagement.

    For someone who yesterday claimed you weren't seeking my approval you seem very upset that I am not responding to each and every thought of yours with prose.

    Hilarious.

    If my comment that those right wing idiots pulling people out of their cars wasn't clear enough for you I sincerely apologise. To clarify the people I called morons were indeed the right wing people carrying out the violent assault.

    A mental fart that needed no further encouragement? Well that's showed me, meeow.

    I don't want you approval at all, I just find it interesting that you see everything I say as a slight against you, like suggesting a separate thread for right wing clowns.


  • Registered Users Posts: 16,506 ✭✭✭✭nullzero
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    Overheal wrote: »
    Also fascist, obviously.

    Is this the part where I strop around and accuse you of expecting me to say something more sinister to make myself come off looking better in my posts?

    Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't fascism a right wing ideology?

    The incitement of violence isn't necessarily a hallmark of fascism, left wing people can be violent without suddenly becoming fascist.


  • Registered Users Posts: 82,035 ✭✭✭✭Overheal


    nullzero wrote: »
    I don't want you approval at all, I just find it interesting that you see everything I say as a slight against you

    If that were true I would indeed respond to more than half of what you say.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 82,035 ✭✭✭✭Overheal


    nullzero wrote: »
    Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't fascism a right wing ideology?

    The incitement of violence isn't necessarily a hallmark of fascism, left wing people can be violent without suddenly becoming fascist.

    Depends who you ask. Seems rather fluid.


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