Baldur's Gate III

BeerWolf

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mxepPfl8W3Q

Woot

Icyseanfitz

oh boy

Kiith

Crazy to think that we are finally getting another one. BG2 is probably i my top 5 games ever, so i really hope Larian can do it justice. If Divinity: Original Sin 2 is anything to go by, it's in bloody good hands.

Xenji

Hopefully the pacing is better than other Larian games, I always find myself getting burned out by them.

ERG89

Small explanation of the trailer by Larian's founder

Xenji

Xenji wrote: »

Hopefully the pacing is better than other Larian games, I always find myself getting burned out by them.

If they can make it 50-60 hours long, or less even, rather than 75+ then that is absolutely fine with me.

Hoboo

Last time I played Baldurs Gate was early 2000's, is this the follow up? Not sure if it was 1 or 2, its a lifetime ago.

blackwave

Hoboo wrote: »

Last time I played Baldurs Gate was early 2000's, is this the follow up? Not sure if it was 1 or 2, its a lifetime ago.

From what I read it's set in the same universe after the events of the second game but will be a completely different story.

Kiith

Yeah, set 100 years after the 1st and 2nd games from what i've heard. As for the pacing, i head the pacing wasn't great in the 3rd act of D:OS2, but was brilliant in the enhanced edition, so hopefully they learn from that.

Gonna start a replay of the series this weekend. BG1 through to ToB, using the BG2 engine.

Icyseanfitz

BG1 was the first real rpg that made fall in love with games, only companies i could see doing 3 justice is larian or obsidian. time to replay 1 and 2 i think....and get my ass handed to me

Bg2 was just the best ever. I think i was looking at DOS before but never played it so must give it a go
This is exciting

Kiith

I couldn't ever quite get into D:OS, but D:OS2 grabbed me immediately, and took almost 100 hours of my life that i would gladly give again. Absolutely fantastic game, and one of the best rpg's of all time for me.

I've a lot of faith in Larian after that.

Steam page is up as well.

https://store.steampowered.com/app/1086940/Baldurs_Gate_III/

ZiabR

19 years since BG2... I have almost forgotten what the game was like. I just know that I played it for a LONG time and absolutely loved it. I am surprised that we are getting a BG3 but excited!

Cina

Kiith wrote: »

I couldn't ever quite get into D:OS, but D:OS2 grabbed me immediately, and took almost 100 hours of my life that i would gladly give again. Absolutely fantastic game, and one of the best rpg's of all time for me.

I've a lot of faith in Larian after that.

Steam page is up as well.

https://store.steampowered.com/app/1086940/Baldurs_Gate_III/

Agreed. I've played DOS2 twice over now, 100 hours each time, and it's definitely one of the best RPG's ever.

If they basically make DOS2 again in a Baldur's Gate universe then I'll be all over this.

Vicxas

Ooooh man! Playing through Divinity 2 atm so this has me turbo excited

Icyseanfitz

I wonder will we ever get a Kotor 3

Glebee

All other similar games fade in comparision to Baldurs Gate / Icewind Dale series of games.

Daith

Really looking forward to this. The games, the second one especially, felt like you could "live in" them. So sprawling and full of content.

Mr Crispy

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LI4v6hC_rjM

Xenji

Going to start Baldurs Gate tonight, it has been about 10 years since I last played it.

Lone Stone

i am kind of burned out on isometric rpg's, seems like a bit of a saturated niche the 2 years. I love bg im really hoping it will shake it up and go like 3rd person witcher style with the same rule set as the classics.

Icyseanfitz

Xenji wrote: »

Going to start Baldurs Gate tonight, it has been about 10 years since I last played it.

i started up the enhanced edition today......ive forgotten just how addictive it is

Canis Lupus

Lone Stone wrote: »

i am kind of burned out on isometric rpg's, seems like a bit of a saturated niche the 2 years. I love bg im really hoping it will shake it up and go like 3rd person witcher style with the same rule set as the classics.

Get out

Polar101

Lone Stone wrote: »

i am kind of burned out on isometric rpg's, seems like a bit of a saturated niche the 2 years. I love bg im really hoping it will shake it up and go like 3rd person witcher style with the same rule set as the classics.

I'm a bit tired of the "retro" style isometric RPGs as well, there has been loads of them recently and all seem to have the same combat and endless dialogues. I'd prefer something different for BG3, but I guess that is unlikely to happen.

I already played BG1, Torment, BG2, Icewind Dale 15-20 years ago, I don't want the same games again.

Canis Lupus

Polar101 wrote: »

I'm a bit tired of the "retro" style isometric RPGs as well, there has been loads of them recently and all seem to have the same combat and endless dialogues. I'd prefer something different for BG3, but I guess that is unlikely to happen.

I already played BG1, Torment, BG2, Icewind Dale 15-20 years ago, I don't want the same games again.

That's vaguely like saying I've played HL1 and 2 years ago. I don't want to see them go down the FPS route for 3.

Potential-Monke

Never played one of these because I'm not a fan of the isometric style. Thought I read something somewhere that said this was going to be 3rd person, and piqued my interest. I take it there's no confirmation of what it will be?

Icyseanfitz

Divinity original sin might look and feel like an iso rpg but its not really, id assume it will be a similar/same engine for bg3

started dos2 now in preparation. this is great stuff

Lone Stone

Polar101 wrote: »

I'm a bit tired of the "retro" style isometric RPGs as well, there has been loads of them recently and all seem to have the same combat and endless dialogues. I'd prefer something different for BG3, but I guess that is unlikely to happen.

I already played BG1, Torment, BG2, Icewind Dale 15-20 years ago, I don't want the same games again.

same like i literally bought every one of them that came out, some better than others just finished poe 2 dead fire last night. Great game's but the only one that stood out from the crowd was div 2. So yea i hope they do try take it to a 3rd person style game that would blow my mind.

Icyseanfitz

Icyseanfitz wrote: »

Divinity original sin might look and feel like an iso rpg but its not really, id assume it will be a similar/same engine for bg3

What is it then?

I never played any of the BG's. Does they hold up today?

Icyseanfitz

Deleted User wrote: »

What is it then?

Div 2 sorry, it's a fully 3d rendered game that so happens to be played top down

Icyseanfitz

Icyseanfitz wrote: »

Div 2 sorry, it's a fully 3d rendered game that so happens to be played top down

Ah right. I thought you were saying it wasn't an rpg

Canis Lupus

Worth noting that Div 2 uses a different combat system with action points, it's not like BG in that regard at all. I tried it, wanted to like it but couldn't get past the combat at all.

@Partyjungle I've never played played BG1 but BG2 is immensely playable today. There's something completely timeless imo with iso rpgs of that style.

Zillah

Deleted User wrote: »

I never played any of the BG's. Does they hold up today?

Uhh, it depends on your tolerance for ageing graphics/UI. The story, characters, and voice acting will be as good as ever, but it looks and feels old. Some of the effects are actually pretty good, and the sound design is good, but the UI really shows its age - even the remastered version.The problem isn't the isometric view; take a look at Pillars of Eternity and you'll see a modern isometric game that looks great. And the 2nd Edition DnD rules are kind of weird and counter-intuitive, and have all sorts of silliness, but damn if levelling up and getting new spells isn't great fun.

Personally I don't think BG1 is a very good game, but BG2 is fantastic if you can get past its obvious age.

Kiith

Yeah, even as a massive fanboy, BG1 can be tough to get into. Low level characters are pretty ****e, so it's not particularly interesting for a while. BG2 starts off way better though, and goes from strength to strength.

YouSavedMyLife

Isometric RPGs are the new zombie games

Niska

YouSavedMyLife wrote: »

Isometric RPGs are the new zombie games

Not mutually exclusive...

Name: Zombie
Type: Undead
Treasure: Nil
Alignment: Neutral
No. Appearing: 3-24
Armor Class: 8
Movement: 6
Hit Dice: 2
THAC0: 19
No. of Attacks: 1
Damage/Attack: 1-8
Special Attacks: Nil
Size: M (6')
Morale: Special
XP Value: 65

Kiith

It's mad, I've lost count of the amount of times i've played through both BG games, and i still have no ****ing idea what THACO means. I just always went with higher = better.

Niska

Kiith wrote: »

It's mad, I've lost count of the amount of times i've played through both BG games, and i still have no ****ing idea what THACO means. I just always went with higher = better.

To Hit AC 0 (Zero).

Roll a d20 and subtract the result from your THACO gives the AC you hit. Any AC equal or higher is hit. It is very unintuitive...

So above zombie rolls a 15, 19 - 15 = 4 so hits AC 4.

So someone in chainmail (AC 5, assuming no Dex bonus, nor shield, nor magic etc)) would be hit but someone in Plate (AC 3) would not be hit. (Technically probably hit but armour absorbs it).

ZeroThreat

Pah, a waste of my talents!

Kiith

Niska wrote: »

To Hit AC 0 (Zero).

Roll a d20 and subtract the result from your THACO gives the AC you hit. Any AC equal or higher is hit. It is very unintuitive...

So above zombie rolls a 15, 19 - 15 = 4 so hits AC 4.

So someone in chainmail (AC 5, assuming no Dex bonus, nor shield, nor magic etc)) would be hit but someone in Plate (AC 3) would not be hit. (Technically probably hit but armour absorbs it).

So THACO high, AC low?

You could have just said that :pac:

You want a low thac0 because it's what you need to roll on a d20
They got rid of it at some stage.... 3e?
You want low ac as well

Agreed bg2 is miles better than bg1. Especially if you get a mod to skip that annoying opening dungeon and imoen whingeing the whole time. I was so excited when i rewatched that star trek four lights episode OMG THAT'S IRENICUS

Bg1 is like you can throw one single magic missile and then be like welp that's me done for the day

Kiith

Ah i'll just stick with Carsomyr and the Flail of Ages...don't need to know stats to know they'll get the job done

I always assembled it and never used it haha.
I was just thinking i don't think I've ever played without edwin in all my 5 million replays.
Dual class fighter mage and go around wreckin the place with edwin

Niska

Kiith wrote: »

Ah i'll just stick with Carsomyr and the Flail of Ages...don't need to know stats to know they'll get the job done

Now I want to play BG1 and 2 again......

Kiith

I've used Edwin a few times, but my usual party is Minsc (of course), Jahera, Imoen (when available), Aerie/Nalia, and Anomen/Keldorn/Cernd. Or i'll use Tashia is i mod her in. Want to try a playthrough without Jaheria and Minsc though. Vicona is supposed to be great, but i'm always a Good aligned character, so she probably woulndn't be too happy.

Niska wrote: »

Now I want to play BG1 and 2 again......

You're welcome

Love viconia i always go with her! Jaheria as well. It's definitely a balance keeping the rep medium and not too high

Lemming

GO FOR THE EYES BOO!! GO FOR THE EYYYESSSS!!


Minsc (and his miniature pet space hamster Boo) is obligatory for endless entertainment.

Zillah

YouSavedMyLife wrote: »

Isometric RPGs are the new zombie games

If you mean to imply that they are a dime a dozen and the genre is completely saturated and we're all burned out on them, then, no, I don't think you could be more wrong.

Hell, BG3 is explicitly not going to be isometric we've been told.

Canis Lupus

bluewolf wrote: »

Bg1 is like you can throw one single magic missile and then be like welp that's me done for the day

Actually BG2 was as bad with Fireball. Spam dafuq out of that was all you needed to do.