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    #1502
    Mr. CooL ICE
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    jasper100 wrote: »
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    #1503
    Sunrise_Sunset
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    pc7 wrote: »
    Here you go, amazing watch! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZeSqJK2Rais

    It is quite amazing. I found it quite invigorating watching it, until the final summit push, that just seemed so terrifying.
    The traffic jams are crazy.
    So, is the North side more difficult to climb than the south?
    Thinking of how people attempted to climb this mountain, like George Mallory back in the 1920s, in his tweed suit and "primitive" tools. I don't suppose there were ropes set up for them either.


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    #1504
    ToBeFrank123
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    News isn't good I'm afraid. If he's in the crevasse, its curtains. Like others I hope no-one's life is risked in a recovery attempt.

    These Sherpas have families too.


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    #1505
    the beer revolu
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    ToBeFrank123 wrote: »
    News isn't good I'm afraid. If he's in the crevasse, its curtains. Like others I hope no-one's life is risked in a recovery attempt.

    These Sherpas have families too.

    On the contrary, I think this is relatively good news.
    If the body is in an inaccessible place, hopefully lives won't be put at risk to recover the body.

    Hopefully the large budget from the GFM campaign won't be used to tempt people into taking huge risks for money.


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    #1506
    styo
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    ToBeFrank123 wrote: »
    News isn't good I'm afraid. If he's in the crevasse, its curtains. Like others I hope no-one's life is risked in a recovery attempt.

    These Sherpas have families too.

    They plan to fly a drone later today or tomorrow, winds permitting I suspect.

    Drones can be flown at these heights:

    https://www.newsweek.com/drone-finds-dead-mountain-climber-one-worlds-highest-peaks-1034090

    But I suspect that in the conditions that prevail at the location, it will not be possible to descend a drone into the crevasse into which it is suspected that he fell. I would suggest that the attempt to find him with a drone is most likely an attempt to rule out the possibility that he did not fall into the crevasse, and was instead simply missed by the rescue team on the slopes. In an environment in which even experienced climbers are left exhausted by taking 3 or 4 steps, that must be a possibility.


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    #1507
    [Deleted User]
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    Just saw on BBC that it's now seven climbers dead in the space of a week. What a mess.


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    #1508
    ToBeFrank123
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    If there are windy or blizzard conditions its likely his body is well covered by snow now.


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    #1509
    styo
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    ToBeFrank123 wrote: »
    If there are windy or blizzard conditions its likely his body is well covered by snow now.

    That they found a crampon would suggest that there is some hope of surveying the area with a degree of certainty.


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    #1510
    iamwhoiam
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    pc7 wrote: »
    After reading here and watching a few videos I can see why mountain climbers (who have a gra for the sport) would want to climb it. As opposed to climbing tourists.

    I can see how those with a gra for it and have experience would be completely put off by the queues of tourists


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    #1511
    fits
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    ToBeFrank123 wrote: »
    News isn't good I'm afraid. If he's in the crevasse, its curtains. Like others I hope no-one's life is risked in a recovery attempt.

    These Sherpas have families too.

    It was curtains long ago. Honestly


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    #1512
    OleRodrigo
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    https://www.theguardian.com/world/2019/may/23/congestion-mount-everest-backlog-climbers-death-zone

    In the context of climbers losing their lives, the photo is quite disturbing.


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    #1513
    pc7
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    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IrHE35DL2Lo

    Another good watch, 'Miracle on Everest'


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    #1514
    the beer revolu
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    OleRodrigo wrote: »
    https://www.theguardian.com/world/2019/may/23/congestion-mount-everest-backlog-climbers-death-zone

    In the context of climbers losing their lives, the photo is quite disturbing.

    That photo has been linked to about 5 times since yesterday.
    Those reading the thread have seen it many times (I keep clicking the links expecting something new)


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    #1515
    Hoboo
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    the beer revolu wrote: »
    That photo has been linked to about 5 times since yesterday.
    Those reading the thread have seen it many times (I keep clicking the links expecting something new)


    The definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over and expecting different results.


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    #1516
    tuxy
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    maxsmum wrote: »
    One of the documentaries mentioned anyone over 50 has physiologically double the risk of dying. So while I'm impressed at their efforts, I wouldn't say I respect them.
    At least they've lived a longer life and probably don't have dependants anymore.

    I don't know if that necessarily true the man leading the search for the body in this case is 51.


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    #1517
    vargoo
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    pc7 wrote: »
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IrHE35DL2Lo

    Another good watch, 'Miracle on Everest'

    Couldn't watch it past 15mins (ish) that clown had no business up there.

    If he thinks he climbed it, he's deluded/lying.


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    #1518
    Effects
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    vargoo wrote: »
    Couldn't watch it past 15mins (ish) that clown had no business up there.

    If he thinks he climbed it, he's deluded/lying.

    But what about the massive wealth of experience he had?


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    #1519
    knucklehead6
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    Effects wrote: »
    But what about the massive wealth of experience he had?

    Te chap with the biggest bone to pick about that has been thread banned


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    #1520
    jam_mac_jam
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    vargoo wrote: »
    Couldn't watch it past 15mins (ish) that clown had no business up there.

    If he thinks he climbed it, he's deluded/lying.
    Clown? he was a professional climber? I would have thought that's exactly where he should be


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    #1521
    ToBeFrank123
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    fits wrote: »
    It was curtains long ago. Honestly

    Curtains in the context of recovery of his body. I've said for days its curtains regards finding him alive.


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    #1522
    pc7
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    Another Irish climber has died :(https://thehimalayantimes.com/nepal/irish-climber-dies-on-mt-everest-north-col/


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    #1523
    fits
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    Gosh. Dunno what to say to that. It’s very sad. He didn’t get to the summit either ( 8300 is high enough!)


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    #1524
    DEFTLEFTHAND
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    This must be the worst year since 2006.


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    #1525
    ohnonotgmail
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    DEFTLEFTHAND wrote: »
    This must be the worst year since 2006.

    still some way to go before they reach the total for 2015 after the avalance. 19 dead that year.


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    #1526
    kunst nugget
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    fits wrote: »
    Gosh. Dunno what to say to that. It’s very sad. He didn’t get to the summit either ( 8300 is high enough!)

    He reached it last year from the south side. He was attempting it from the north side this year.

    https://irishsevensummits.com/everest-2019/


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    #1527
    Muahahaha
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    styo wrote: »
    That they found a crampon would suggest that there is some hope of surveying the area with a degree of certainty.

    I'm wondering why his crampon was off him, they are pretty strong pieces of equipment and if fitted right to your boots they shouldnt come off. Theres a chance he was going through hypoxia when the brain is shutting down and tricks you into doing things you would never otherwise do. Lots of climbers who die have been found semi naked as the brain tricks them into believing that they are overheating when really they're suffering from extreme hypothermia. Seamus taking his crampon off might have been a part of this.
    pc7 wrote: »
    Another Irish climber has died :(https://thehimalayantimes.com/nepal/irish-climber-dies-on-mt-everest-north-col/


    Holy fcuk, another two kids left behind :mad:


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    #1528
    iamwhoiam
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    pc7 wrote: »
    Another Irish climber has died :(https://thehimalayantimes.com/nepal/irish-climber-dies-on-mt-everest-north-col/

    I winder are the queues now causing people to be up there too long and are dieing .?


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    #1529
    ToBeFrank123
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    ohnonotgmail wrote: »
    still some way to go before they reach the total for 2015 after the avalance. 19 dead that year.

    I think they were mostly Sherpas preparing for the season from what I recall and there was no climbing that year. Its an incredibly difficult life they have, all to help some westerner achieve a life's dream or tick a box.


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    #1530
    Jellybaby1
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    I haven't read all this thread so forgive me if I'm repeating. Does anyone know how many of the guides have been lost over the last 20 years or so? I'm just wondering if they are more acclimatised and do they have less problems, or are they the same as the climbers?


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    #1531
    ohnonotgmail
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    ToBeFrank123 wrote: »
    I think they were mostly Sherpas preparing for the season from what I recall and there was no climbing that year. Its an incredibly difficult life they have, all to help some westerner achieve a life's dream or tick a box.

    yeah all the deaths that year were due to the avalanche. The previous year there was also an avalance that mostly killed sherpas. there is a full list of those who have died on the mountain here https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_people_who_died_climbing_Mount_Everest


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