Leinster Team Talk/Gossip/Rumours Thread XI (The Finals Countdown)

Shefwedfan · 19-05-2019 7:52am

ktulu123 wrote: »

How are people getting to the final? Flights are a disaster. Trying to get the mother over for it. Thankfully its just another drive down the road for me

I would guess plenty of bus and boat will be set up

Burkie1203 · 19-05-2019 8:22am

Leo quoted on RTE website saying he doesn't believe Toner will miss RWC.

Shefwedfan · 19-05-2019 9:10am

Burkie1203 wrote: »

Leo quoted on RTE website saying he doesn't believe Toner will miss RWC.

Not been negative but I wouldn't expet him to say anything less

depending on what happened it will still be swelled up so it might take a few days before they know the extend.....

Fingers crossed in the meantime.....it would be a huge loss to Ireland but I would relaly feel for Toner if he misses the WC

Burkie1203 · 19-05-2019 9:13am

Shefwedfan wrote: »

Not been negative but I wouldn't expet him to say anything less

depending on what happened it will still be swelled up so it might take a few days before they know the extend.....

Fingers crossed in the meantime.....it would be a huge loss to Ireland but I would relaly feel for Toner if he misses the WC

I think they would know straight away if it was more serious so think positive.

Think VDF needs to lend Dev his scrum cap. It seems to work wonders.

antietam1 · 19-05-2019 9:17am

KH25 wrote: »

To be fair, you were applying human standards to him. He’s not human.

Completely missed the match because of an exam, but i am enjoying some of the comments in the match thread :-D

You could get the full match on tg4 player, youtube later.

sullivlo · 19-05-2019 10:16am

ktulu123 wrote: »

How are people getting to the final? Flights are a disaster. Trying to get the mother over for it. Thankfully its just another drive down the road for me

I'm flying into Edinburgh and taking the train to Glasgow.

Exclamation Marc · 19-05-2019 11:44am

ktulu123 wrote: »

How are people getting to the final? Flights are a disaster. Trying to get the mother over for it. Thankfully its just another drive down the road for me

Using Joe Walsh Tours for a day trip!

KH25 · 19-05-2019 11:53am

antietam1 wrote: »

KH25 wrote: »

To be fair, you were applying human standards to him. He’s not human.

Completely missed the match because of an exam, but i am enjoying some of the comments in the match thread :-D

You could get the full match on tg4 player, youtube later.

Cheers for that!

Podge_irl · 19-05-2019 7:22pm

crisco10 wrote: »

Bit harsh there, sexton only started in 09 cos the first choice (felipe) was injured.

If sexton was injured, Byrne would have started last week.

Sextons growth curve from 24 to 26 or so was huge tho

It wasn’t that clear cut. There was an argument for sexton to start that semi anyway - made by myself amongst others here - though yeah it was a long shot. He was going to be first choice the following year either way though and he was key to Leinster winning the league the year before.

Byrne is good but people really under-rate how good sexton was

Shefwedfan · 19-05-2019 8:24pm

Podge_irl wrote: »

It wasn’t that clear cut. There was an argument for sexton to start that semi anyway - made by myself amongst others here - though yeah it was a long shot. He was going to be first choice the following year either way though and he was key to Leinster winning the league the year before.

Byrne is good but people really under-rate how good sexton was

It seems a lot of people “seen something in sexton” during 2009.

People love to knock Byrne but I prefer to think he has done exceptional well for his age. He has played a huge amount of minutes for Leinster this season, guided the team through the end of group stages and a qtr final in Heineken.

Carberry didn’t get a look in at 10 last year with Byrne till the irfu pulled rank and he started at end of season

I don’t think it needs to be a specific sexton v Byrne but I think people need to give Byrne a bit of a break....he has just turned 24, still very very young and at this stage he has huge experience

Podge_irl · 19-05-2019 8:57pm

24 isn't very young. He has not done "exceptionally" well by any stretch of the imagination. He is a good to very good fly half.

I don't think anyone is particularly ragging on Byrne are they? The chances of replacing Sexton with someone as good were infinitesimally low.

Squidgy Black · 19-05-2019 9:00pm

Nobody's saying Byrne is a bad player. They're saying he hasn't exactly grabbed big games by the scruff of the neck and shown that extra spark. Which is true, he doesn't take a game and change it.

But saying he was better than Sexton at that age is a ludicrous claim.

errlloyd · 19-05-2019 9:57pm

Squidgy Black wrote: »

Nobody's saying Byrne is a bad player. They're saying he hasn't exactly grabbed big games by the scruff of the neck and shown that extra spark. Which is true, he doesn't take a game and change it.

But saying he was better than Sexton at that age is a ludicrous claim.

I think the first person who said he doesn't grab games was me. And it was encased in a much bigger compliment, which is that he wins plenty.

It is probably not clear what I meant over a text forum, but what I was actually saying is "even though I can't put my finger on what Ross Byrne is doing well, he is definitely doing something very well".

Shefwedfan · 19-05-2019 10:14pm

Squidgy Black wrote: »

Nobody's saying Byrne is a bad player. They're saying he hasn't exactly grabbed big games by the scruff of the neck and shown that extra spark. Which is true, he doesn't take a game and change it.

But saying he was better than Sexton at that age is a ludicrous claim.

Based on the 2009 season and Sexton was getting dropped out of match day squad regularly as they preferred Isa/Contepomi.

Sexton's view: he admits now, “impatient” and “stroppy” in his early twenties. “I was always the eighth‑choice back for Leinster and I always needed one injury to get in,” he said.

After the 2009 game he went up the ranking very quickly....if you stuck both players side by side at 24. Forget all Sexton has done since. Really is it a ludicrous claim?

PS. I said slightly......maybe I should have same similar. I doubt much between them

Dubinusa · 19-05-2019 10:34pm

Byrne is a very good 10, imo. Will he be test quality? I don't know, but he is doing a good job and I think can go further.
I don't see the game breaking qualities of Carty or Carbury. But, he does his job and his tackling is very good. I think he could be a similar player to ROG.

degsie · 19-05-2019 11:09pm

Anybody here enter the Rugby Roulette and got their ticket allocation yet?

Sheep Shagger · 20-05-2019 8:03am

Exclamation Marc wrote: »

Using Joe Walsh Tours for a day trip!

€500 - rather you than me.

Took a gamble on flights in Feb and got a flight into Edinburgh on Saturday morning and home on Saturday night from Glasgow for €45, Megabus between Edinburgh airport and Glasgow is £10

Exclamation Marc · 20-05-2019 9:46am

Sheep Shagger wrote: »

€500 - rather you than me.

Took a gamble on flights in Feb and got a flight into Edinburgh on Saturday morning and home on Saturday night from Glasgow for €45, Megabus between Edinburgh airport and Glasgow is £10

Have had three out of the last five weekends as sporting weekends away so wanted in and out on the same day and it was the cheapest choice for a day trip for this weekend that was available on Saturday evening when I needed to book. Don't really mind the cost as I can do without another full weekend away

Podge_irl · 20-05-2019 9:46am

Shefwedfan wrote: »

Based on the 2009 season and Sexton was getting dropped out of match day squad regularly as they preferred Isa/Contepomi.

Sexton was in more matchday squads in 08/09 then he was in 09/10. He was absolutely not "regularly" getting dropped out of matchday squads.

He started the season as the first choice 10 and lost it after the head-to-head games against Castres. He played a game or two for Mary's in January but during and after the 6N was clearly the back-up 10.

DelBoy Trotter · 20-05-2019 10:07am

Sheep Shagger wrote: »

€500 - rather you than me.

Agreed. I would have been interested if it was a reasonable price, but that is madness in my opinion

Exclamation Marc · 20-05-2019 10:10am

DelBoy Trotter wrote: »

Agreed. I would have been interested if it was a reasonable price, but that is madness in my opinion

I have the money so am happy to pay it. Plus I have a sick family member that I can't afford to spend a night out of the country from so it worked for me, without me having to fret over the finer points.

degsie · 20-05-2019 10:30am

Exclamation Marc wrote: »

I have the money so am happy to pay it. Plus I have a sick family member that I can't afford to spend a night out of the country from so it worked for me, without me having to fret over the finer points.

Go the whole Hogg and treat yourself to the hospatility package...

https://www.eticketing.co.uk/scottishrugby/EDP/Event/Index/2750

Exclamation Marc · 20-05-2019 10:42am

degsie wrote: »

Go the whole Hogg and treat yourself to the hospatility package...

https://www.eticketing.co.uk/scottishrugby/EDP/Event/Index/2750

Why would I do that?

Good pun though.

Interested Observer · 20-05-2019 10:56am

Looks like there should be a good crowd there anyway, most of the stadium sold out. It's a terrible look for these games to have big patches of empty seats.

Exclamation Marc · 20-05-2019 12:19pm

Dev unsurprisingly ruled out on the final. Further assessment on the knee injury this week.

Burkie1203 · 20-05-2019 12:30pm

Exclamation Marc wrote: »

Dev unsurprisingly ruled out on the final. Further assessment on the knee injury this week.

Fardy and Ryan
Ruddock to cover 2nd row?

AbusesToilets · 20-05-2019 12:31pm

Is Molony injured at the moment?

troyzer · 20-05-2019 12:36pm

I don't think Molony is injured. He was with the squad in Newcastle and he was warming up on Saturday.

My team for the final:

1. Healy.
2. Cronin.
3. Furlong.
4. Fardy.
5. Ryan.
6. Ruddock.
7. VdF.
8. Conan.
9. McGrath.
10. Sexton.
11. Lowe.
12. Henshaw.
13. Ringrose.
14. Larmour.
15. Kearney.
16. Byrne.
17. Tracy.
18. Porter.
19. Molony.
20. O'Brien.
21. McCarthy.
22. Byrne.
23. O'Loughlin.

Exclamation Marc · 20-05-2019 12:52pm

troyzer wrote: »

I don't think Molony is injured. He was with the squad in Newcastle and he was warming up on Saturday.

My team for the final:

1. Healy.
2. Cronin.
3. Furlong.
4. Fardy.
5. Ryan.
6. Ruddock.
7. VdF.
8. Conan.
9. McGrath.
10. Sexton.
11. Lowe.
12. Henshaw.
13. Ringrose.
14. Larmour.
15. Kearney.
16. Byrne.
17. Tracy.
18. Porter.
19. Molony.
20. O'Brien.
21. McCarthy.
22. Byrne.
23. O'Loughlin.

Can't argue with that.

Only variation might be D. Kearney in at 14 with Larmour at 15 if Rob is unavailable.

Squidgy Black · 20-05-2019 12:58pm

AbusesToilets wrote: »

Is Molony injured at the moment?

He's been recovering from a back injury, I'm not sure if he's back to full fitness yet but I guess we'll only find out with the next injury update.

Leinster Team Talk/Gossip/Rumours Thread XI (The Finals Countdown)

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