How long before Irish reunification?

BonnieSituation

20-30 years

eagle eye wrote: »

What amount is that?

These are rhetorical questions, right? You know the answers I take it.

You were telling us how intelligent you were last night so think it's odd you wouldn't know these answers.

BonnieSituation

20-30 years

RobMc59 wrote: »

I disagree and believe although an unpleasant character Margaret Thatcher's persona as the uncomprimising 'iron lady 'was strengthened on the world stage by this episode.

You reckon?

Tell me Rob, did the hunger strikers get what they wanted?

FrancieBrady

BonnieSituation wrote: »

When people agitate for one? The same way everything happens.

You could start a pro-Partition anti-GFA group if you want.
The same way you can have your own anti-UI group if you want.

There is of course a reason they don't exist and why they probably never will, unless Gemma Doherty and John Watters are at a loose end. Or Peter Casey.

BonnieSituation

20-30 years

FrancieBrady wrote: »

Like Boris she sold them down the river but back they go, like obedient lapdogs, again and again.

Maybe this time they will learn, but I doubt it.

By my reckoning this indicates that you "hate" Unionists.

FrancieBrady

BonnieSituation wrote: »

You reckon?

Tell me Rob, did the hunger strikers get what they wanted?

The 'Iron Lady' that chatted away to the 'terrorists' she told the world and Unionists she never would talk to died a lonely old women reviled by as many if not many more than admired her.

RobMc59

10-15 years

BonnieSituation wrote: »

You reckon?

Tell me Rob, did the hunger strikers get what they wanted?

Their actions increased popularity of nationalism amongst the easily led but also led to an increase in terrorism during the troubles.The strikes where generally regarded as a crushing defeat for the shadowy terrorists who portrayed themselves as 'freedom fighters '.

FrancieBrady

RobMc59 wrote: »

Their actions increased popularity of nationalism amongst the easily led but also led to an increase in terrorism during the troubles.The strikes where generally regarded as a crushing defeat for the shadowy terrorists who portrayed themselves as 'freedom fighters '.

Where was this...in the British media? Brexit was a crushing defeat for the EU in that.

BonnieSituation

20-30 years

RobMc59 wrote: »

Their actions increased popularity of nationalism amongst the easily led but also led to an increase in terrorism during the troubles.The strikes where generally regarded as a crushing defeat for the shadowy terrorists who portrayed themselves as 'freedom fighters '.

So wait, are you saying that there are a lot of Nationalists that would have been Unionists only for the hunger strikers?

Or are you saying that Irish Nationalism isn't a valid aspiration?

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Further to that, my question was "did they get what they wanted"? Did they?

eagle eye

Ulster Says No. It will never happen

FrancieBrady wrote:

If you are uneducated to the extent that the Hunger Strikes impacted the world in a massive way and turned the spotlight on the British Governments behaviour here, then you are deluded and you don't want to face realities of history.

I never said it didn't. Read my post again.

eagle eye

Ulster Says No. It will never happen

BonnieSituation wrote:

You could start a pro-Partition anti-GFA group if you want. The same way you can have your own anti-UI group if you want.

Why do you keep bringing up partition like I want to partition anything? I don't want to partition anything.
I just want things to remain as they are for the next thirty years or more.

FrancieBrady

eagle eye wrote: »

I never said it didn't. Read my post again.

So what was outlandish about my post?

FrancieBrady

eagle eye wrote: »

Why do you keep bringing up partition like I want to partition anything? I don't want to partition anything.
I just want things to remain as they are for the next thirty years or more.

Then you are a partitionist for the next 30 years.

BonnieSituation

20-30 years

eagle eye wrote: »

Why do you keep bringing up partition like I want to partition anything? I don't want to partition anything.
I just want things to remain as they are for the next thirty years or more.

So you're pro-Partition and anti-GFA.

That's okay.

RobMc59

10-15 years

BonnieSituation wrote: »

You reckon?

Tell me Rob, did the hunger strikers get what they wanted?

That depends on your view of what they wanted.
My opinion of what they wanted to achieve is probably different from yours.I think that something which started over prisoner status escalated into a political point scoring exercise by shadowy republicans who used the strikers as pawns.What do you think they wanted?

RobMc59

10-15 years

FrancieBrady wrote: »

Where was this...in the British media? Brexit was a crushing defeat for the EU in that.

Textbook 'look over there 'tactics from you francie-who mentioned brexit?
I understand as a disgruntled republican supporter you will try to agitate interest in a UI but the fact is although there has been some speculation about the possibility of that it remains far in the distance.Do you think the EU will be willing to cough up in the near future?I certainly don't.

eagle eye

Ulster Says No. It will never happen

FrancieBrady wrote:

So what was outlandish about my post?

Claiming that the prisoners did it for anything other than prison conditions.

eagle eye

Ulster Says No. It will never happen

FrancieBrady wrote:

Then you are a partitionist for the next 30 years.

No, I don't want to partition anything. In order to be a partitionist there must be intent to partition something.

eagle eye

Ulster Says No. It will never happen

BonnieSituation wrote:

So you're pro-Partition and anti-GFA.

I'm pro Republic of Ireland.

Tokyo

+10,000 posts.

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