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UFC 235 - Jones vs Smith, Woodley vs Usman - Sat March 2nd

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    #182
    SlowBlowin
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    Dana will be pissed...


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    #183
    Subcomandante Marcos
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    I initially thought that was a bad stoppage, after seeing more angles, Herb has no choice.


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    #184
    darced
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    Robbie lost fair and square imo, you can't behave like that and expect a ref to not stop it. Cruz is talking nonsense, of course he was being choked. Askren is the man, what a chin.


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    #185
    12gauge dave
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    Askren looks suspect to me. Lethal grappler no doubt but that is all. Khabib can stand and trade with anyone, askren wont be able in my opinion.


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    #186
    [Deleted User]
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    I had money on the Lawlor v Askren fight so I can't impartially give an opinion on it..... but I thought it was a bad stoppage.


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    #187
    Subcomandante Marcos
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    darced wrote: »
    Robbie lost fair and square imo, you can't behave like that and expect a ref to not stop it. Cruz is talking nonsense, of course he was being choked. Askren is the man, what a chin.

    I agree. Cruz with the "it was on his chin".

    How the **** do you know where it was or wasn't?

    Herb literally moved Robbie's arm and felt no resistance after asking him to do something. He had no choice but to call it.


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    #188
    mangobob
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    Subcomandante Marcos wrote: »
    Lads, the way Robbie's arm drops is not insignificant.

    A Bulldog choke is a legit choke and Robbie wasn't getting out of it.


    Its a fair point, and Im not pissed that Robbie lost and Askren won, but I just think it was such a ****ty way to finish, for Askren also. I wanted a clear submission and it was a premature call.

    In partial mitigation, I think Robbie probably knew he wasn't getting out of it too, which is why he seemed so cool with Herbs decision.

    But still. I was so looking forward to that and the end just felt so deflating, especially after that incredible beginning. Fair play to Askren for surviving it.


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    #189
    Man Vs ManUre
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    Very disappointing to see that end like that, especially with a savage like lawlor. Reckon it was only a second or 2 away from being stopped earlier in the round in lawlor decision. What a comeback by askren tho. Gotta be a refereee mistake tho.


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    #190
    Wrongway1985
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    Subcomandante Marcos wrote: »
    Herb literally moved Robbie's arm and felt no resistance after asking him to do something. He had no choice but to call it.

    Actually when he lifts the arm up its kept in the air it would flail straight down if the wits werent intact...bad call, even if it did look like odds of a way out may have been slim.


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    #191
    Subcomandante Marcos
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    This is the maaaaaiiiiiiiin event of the evening.


    **** the pretend picogram fight after, this is what we are all watching for.


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    #192
    darced
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    Subcomandante Marcos wrote: »
    I agree. Cruz with the "it was on his chin".

    How the **** do you know where it was or wasn't?

    Herb literally moved Robbie's arm and felt no resistance after asking him to do something. He had no choice but to call it.

    And thats ignoring the fact that you can easily be choked with the chin in, the position of Bens bicep looked directly on the carotid.


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    #193
    Man Vs ManUre
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    scudzilla wrote: »
    Maybe, just maybe, could there be a way to restart the fight from the same position in situations like that?

    Yes. They can do it after the Jones-Smith headliner. Hopefully the fans will stay and my tv will stay on.


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    #194
    Subcomandante Marcos
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    darced wrote: »
    And thats ignoring the fact that you can easily be choked with the chin in, the position of Bens bicep looked directly on the carotid.

    Yup, under the chin really means nothing, Dom talking about "blood choke" just shows how little he actually understands the mechanics of strangulation.
    Under the chin is immaterial, either side of the neck is faaar more important.


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    #195
    Subcomandante Marcos
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    Man Vs ManUre wrote: »
    Yes. They can do it after the Jones-Smith headliner. Hopefully the fans will stay and my tv will stay on.


    No they can't.

    Don't be stupid.


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    #196
    Johny Cage
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    30% Usman is going to get wrecked here.


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    #197
    ASOT
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    Marty from Nebraska


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    #198
    scudzilla
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    scudzilla wrote: »
    Maybe, just maybe, could there be a way to restart the fight from the same position in situations like that?
    Man Vs ManUre wrote: »
    Yes. They can do it after the Jones-Smith headliner. Hopefully the fans will stay and my tv will stay on.

    Lol, i didn't mean that late, i meant within seconds of realising a mistake had been made, fighters get put back in position a lot, whats to stop it happening in situations like this?


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    #199
    darced
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    Still not convinced by Woodley, I know I'm ridiculous. If he starches Usman I'm sold.


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    #200
    nocoverart
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    Joe and the fookin boss in the video game again.


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    #201
    Subcomandante Marcos
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    Nice to see Marc Godard reffing a co-main in Vegas.


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    #202
    ricero
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    Think they will cancel each other out with the wrestling so can see this fight staying on it's feet for the majority of it.


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    #203
    martyos121
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    Usman looks to have the strength advantage anyway, fight is playing out as I predicted so far.

    Just takes one shot from Woodley though, extremely dangerous man.


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    #204
    mangobob
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    Round 1 Usman.


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    #205
    Johny Cage
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    Usman has exceeded my expectations so far.


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    #206
    darced
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    Usman is huge, Jesus.


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    #207
    Subcomandante Marcos
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    darced wrote: »
    Usman is huge, Jesus.

    Yeah he makes Tyron look small.


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    #208
    Johner
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    Usman has been dominant so far.


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    #209
    ricero
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    Pure domination by Usman so far.

    Never seen anyone do this to Woodley.


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    #210
    martyos121
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    Definitely a 10-8 for Usman, huge uphill battle for Woodley now.


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    #211
    Johny Cage
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    Woodley needs to show some urgency in round 3. He’s thrown about 5 punches. Fair play to Usman though, not giving Woodley a second to breathe.


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