Munster Team Talk Thread - Snymans are(n't) Forever

Jump_In_Jack · 04-09-2019 11:14am

shootermacg wrote: »

Not bad at all, Holland will probably captain, he's a great influence on the pitch.
You might want to swap Goggin and Arnold though

Holland should definitely captain that squad alright.

I’d like to see a centre partnership of 12. Goggin, 13. Scannell at some point.
I think Goggin showed something special at the start of last season but then injury hit and he never got back to the same level.
Scannell has pace that he rarely uses as he doesn’t have any space at 12.
If he could play 13 and see if his skills and pace could offer another option, particularly against big rush defences, his ability to chip and chase or to be a playmaker in the wider channels could be exciting.

Caranica · 04-09-2019 1:04pm

I think Tyler will captain it. It's most likely Holland's last season, we need to build for the future, and JvG rates Tyler as a captain.

Jump_In_Jack · 04-09-2019 5:25pm

Caranica wrote: »

I think Tyler will captain it. It's most likely Holland's last season, we need to build for the future, and JvG rates Tyler as a captain.

I’d prefer Holland, simply to bridge the gap until the World Cup contingent return.

ionadnapokot · 05-09-2019 8:41pm

Jump_In_Jack wrote: »

Caranica wrote: »

I think Tyler will captain it. It's most likely Holland's last season, we need to build for the future, and JvG rates Tyler as a captain.

I’d prefer Holland, simply to bridge the gap until the World Cup contingent return.

Beirne and Holland usually call the lineouts?
Anybody know much about Kleyn in the lineout? My perception is Beirne, POM and CJ are the primary targets.

Jump_In_Jack · 05-09-2019 9:41pm

ionadnapokot wrote: »

Beirne and Holland usually call the lineouts?
Anybody know much about Kleyn in the lineout? My perception is Beirne, POM and CJ are the primary targets.

CJ hardly ever, he 6’1 and heavy to lift.
It’s Beirne running the line-outs with himself and Kleyn as main targets, fairly evenly shared, with O’Mahony at the front for defensive line-outs.
If Beirne is missing it would be Holland running the line-outs.

Mucky_Tackies · 06-09-2019 9:15am

Holland is a ****ing gun at lineouts. Supposedly spends hours upon hours of extra time pouring over other team lineouts trying to crack calls. Loves it he does.

Anyone know if the match in Cork tonight against Leinster 2nds is likely to be streamed anywhere?

yerrahbah · 06-09-2019 12:50pm

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t6-lbcU5yiM

Still on the look out for an additional coach

Burkie1203 · 06-09-2019 2:28pm

https://twitter.com/LindaOkaythen/status/1169861629338456065?s=19

Caranica · 06-09-2019 2:35pm

There are protests planned for outside the game and I think if he's in the 23 it will harm ticket sales. I can't go to the game anyway but I've heard people who traditionally would say they won't if Jackson is playing.

Cookiemunster · 06-09-2019 2:45pm

Caranica wrote: »

There are protests planned for outside the game and I think if he's in the 23 it will harm ticket sales. I can't go to the game anyway but I've heard people who traditionally would say they won't if Jackson is playing.

Jackson will probably be involved as it'll be a matchday 40ish rather than 23. Different teams each half and probably more subs during the second half. That's what stops me going to preseason friendlies rather than who might or might not be playing.

Henry Ford III · 06-09-2019 3:13pm

Protesting against what though?

P.J. conducted himself very poorly after the trial for sure, and the Whatsapp stuff was pretty bad*, but he was found not guilty and shouldn't that be the end of the matter? A group of clearly outraged but unqualified people shouldn't be running a parallel kangaroo court justice system.

*Loads of similar stuff goes on on social media all the time but isn't made public.

Caranica · 06-09-2019 4:00pm

I haven't been to that fixture since the 2012 game when Joe Ansbro broke his neck. Friday night games don't work when you live in Dublin and it's not a game worth taking a half day for.

Phileas Frog · 06-09-2019 4:35pm

Caranica wrote: »

There are protests planned for outside the game and I think if he's in the 23 it will harm ticket sales. I can't go to the game anyway but I've heard people who traditionally would say they won't if Jackson is playing.

I'd say Munster couldn't give a flying fluich about ticket sales especially since most of them were given away for free to MRSC members.

bennyl10 · 06-09-2019 11:08pm

Phileas Frog wrote: »

I'd say Munster couldn't give a flying fluich about ticket sales especially since most of them were given away for free to MRSC members.

Becuse they had to becuase general sales were so damn bad

The Lost Sheep · 06-09-2019 11:10pm

bennyl10 wrote: »

Becuse they had to becuase general sales were so damn bad

No more they do it for most pre season games. Ticket sales are never any good for these games

Cookiemunster · 07-09-2019 9:02am

bennyl10 wrote: »

Becuse they had to becuase general sales were so damn bad

What? It's a preseason friendly. MRSC members get free entry to the pre season friendlies every year as part of the membership package.

Tickets sales for the Pro14 were actually up last season and I'd expect similar this season, so I've no idea where you're getting that info from.

thomond2006 · 07-09-2019 9:27am

Paddy Butler training with Munster.

bennyl10 · 07-09-2019 9:36am

Cookiemunster wrote: »

What? It's a preseason friendly. MRSC members get free entry to the pre season friendlies every year as part of the membership package.

Tickets sales for the Pro14 were actually up last season and I'd expect similar this season, so I've no idea where you're getting that info from.

I just meant this game in particular, it has struggled to sell on general, even less than usual for a preseason.

Phileas Frog · 07-09-2019 9:40am

bennyl10 wrote: »

I just meant this game in particular, it has struggled to sell on general, even less than usual for a preseason.

But as has already been pointed out, MRSC members always get free tickets for the pre-season games. Nothing has changed this year.

Do you work in the Munster Rugby ticket office with your inside knowledge?

salmocab · 07-09-2019 9:41am

I imagine the looming World Cup and Ireland having friendlies have more to do with ticket sales than paddy Jackson

Anatidaephobia · 07-09-2019 5:00pm

thomond2006 wrote: »

Paddy Butler training with Munster.

Where did you see this? Is he not still at Pau?

Cookiemunster · 07-09-2019 6:08pm

Anatidaephobia wrote: »

Where did you see this? Is he not still at Pau?

He was released along with Foley at the end of last season. There been no official announcement, but he's been seen in Munster training kit.

Kirk Van Houten · 07-09-2019 6:45pm

Anatidaephobia wrote: »

thomond2006 wrote: »

Paddy Butler training with Munster.

Where did you see this? Is he not still at Pau?

He was training with them in Killarney on Friday. Hes still looking for a new club.

Sabre0001 · 09-09-2019 11:08am

Jed Holloway signing confirmed: https://www.munsterrugby.ie/2019/09/09/munster-rugby-sign-jed-holloway-on-short-term-deal/

"Known for his work-rate and strong ball carrying abilities" - good to hear

The above also says, "In other squad news, former Munster players Paddy Butler (back row) and Peter McCabe (prop) are the latest to join the pre-season training group."

Lucas44 · 09-09-2019 11:55am

Sabre0001 wrote: »

Jed Holloway signing confirmed: https://www.munsterrugby.ie/2019/09/09/munster-rugby-sign-jed-holloway-on-short-term-deal/

"Known for his work-rate and strong ball carrying abilities" - good to hear

The above also says, "In other squad news, former Munster players Paddy Butler (back row) and Peter McCabe (prop) are the latest to join the pre-season training group."

Not sure about this signing was hoping this would be the break out year for Josser and Coombes

thomond2006 · 09-09-2019 12:25pm

Lucas44 wrote: »

Not sure about this signing was hoping this would be the break out year for Josser and Coombes

I think it's fair enough considering Munster are down back five forwards.

Lucas44 · 09-09-2019 2:36pm

thomond2006 wrote: »

I think it's fair enough considering Munster are down back five forwards.

Are we though ? Would of thought JOD, TOD, Botha, Coombes, cloete, j O’Sullivan, Oliver and Wycherley would of been enough cover

Shefwedfan · 09-09-2019 3:05pm

thomond2006 wrote: »

I think it's fair enough considering Munster are down back five forwards.

Munster are hardly playing the cream of Europe

Dragons - Home easy
Southern Kinds - Away easy
Ceetahs - Away easy
Osprey - Home Easy

Sorry update, the connacht match is a preseason. These match's should be a chance for the Munster second team and academy to get minutes.....even if full team available

It baffles me why they need these signing.....

Cookiemunster · 09-09-2019 3:07pm

Lucas44 wrote: »

Are we though ? Would of thought JOD, TOD, Botha, Coombes, cloete, j O’Sullivan, Oliver and Wycherley would of been enough cover

Well the management thought we needed an extra body and Nucifora and the IRFU agreed with them.

There's plenty of experienced cover for the back row, but it'd fairly light for the second row. It's risky relying on just Holland, O'Shea and Wycherley (of whom the latter two are still pretty green) for 5 games which includes a tour to SA.

jmn51927 · 09-09-2019 3:12pm

Will primarily be a 2nd row. Holland is approaching 35 and will be hopefully crucial off the bench in the latter stages of the campaign. With regard to Fineen and O’Connor, the way to develop them is not by flogging them with minutes, saying that both will get plenty now and when JK and TB go for 6n duty and Holloway is gone they’ll get even more. Ahern O’Connor and Kelly are all still u20 this year and that will be their main area of development. A sensible signing.

Munster Team Talk Thread - Snymans are(n't) Forever

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