Turn down two houses and you're off the list

the_syco

RasTa wrote: »

Finally.

McVery on the radio now saying he doesn't agree.

But if you turn down two houses now whilst on the social housing list. You're off the list for 5 years.

Turn down 2 houses, get to stay where you are.

I'm not seeing any carrot, nor any stick.

Wheeliebin30

Topgear on Dave wrote: »

Bluff, guff, bluster and distraction in response in response to the 2011 question.

I remember it well, I emigrated, there were empty gaffs all over the place and we couldn't pay the nurses or teachers never mind build houses.


And I hadn't realised about your username........ that's really really weird.

Matt accuses the government of spin.

Sweet.Science

Wheeliebin30 wrote: »

Matt accuses the government of spin.

Never copped the username myself.

My partners friend ( already has a 4 year old giel ) found out she is having another girl in September. I thought this was great news but apparently it's not. She cant request a move from her 2 bed apartment now to a 3 bed house. We have created an absolute monster in this country

weldoninhio

Matt Barrett wrote: »

The only 'free house' is the Mansion house and I believe the Mayors term is limited.
People pay rent based on income, or we could put them up in the Gresham, which do you think?

And if their source of income is the free money from the dole or the free childrens allowance for their sixteen kids by 14 different fathers??

Sweet.Science

weldoninhio wrote: »

And if their source of income is the free money from the dole or the free childrens allowance for their sixteen kids by 14 different fathers??

Its common knowledge you can stop paying rent when you get a council home. Thats why the demand is so high. Thats why people declare homeless for a few years instead of renting through HAP when you have to pay or face eviction.

You can also make compensation claims against the council for accidents in your house. A trip or fall here and there.

Its the gravy train

Wheeliebin30

Sweet.Science wrote: »

Its common knowledge you can stop paying rent when you get a council home. Thats why the demand is so high. Thats why people declare homeless for a few years instead of renting through HAP when you have to pay or face eviction.

You can also make compensation claims against the council for accidents in your house. A trip or fall here and there.

Its the gravy train

It’s like winning the lotto.

corner of hells

Sweet.Science wrote: »

Its common knowledge you can stop paying rent when you get a council home. Thats why the demand is so high. Thats why people declare homeless for a few years instead of renting through HAP when you have to pay or face eviction.

You can also make compensation claims against the council for accidents in your house. A trip or fall here and there.

Its the gravy train

If you register as homeless , you're accommodation at the start is going to be One Night Only beds , moving to Assertive Engagement , all in hostels.

You're assessed to see what type of accommodation is best for you , it could a six month STA placement , B&B etc.

None of them are walks in the park.

If you have a family , most likely B&B or family hubs.

You used be assessed under different needs , I think now there's no priority though you may be looked at if you medical issues.

One way or another , you're in for a hairy ride.

Sweet.Science

corner of hells wrote: »

If you register as homeless , you're accommodation at the start is going to be One Night Only beds , moving to Assertive Engagement , all in hostels.

You're assessed to see what type of accommodation is best for you , it could a six month STA placement , B&B etc.

None of them are walks in the park.

If you have a family , most likely B&B or family hubs.

You used be assessed under different needs , I think now there's no priority though you may be looked at if you medical issues.

One way or another , you're in for a hairy ride.

Not too bad for a free house at the end of it to be honest. Not too bad at all.

SEPT 23 1989

Sweet.Science wrote: »

Not too bad for a free house at the end of it to be honest. Not too bad at all.

have you experienced life in those sh1tholes?

Sweet.Science

SEPT 23 1989 wrote: »

have you experienced life in those sh1tholes?

Sounds so bad alright

Old diesel

corner of hells wrote: »

If you register as homeless , you're accommodation at the start is going to be One Night Only beds , moving to Assertive Engagement , all in hostels.

You're assessed to see what type of accommodation is best for you , it could a six month STA placement , B&B etc.

None of them are walks in the park.

If you have a family , most likely B&B or family hubs.

You used be assessed under different needs , I think now there's no priority though you may be looked at if you medical issues.

One way or another , you're in for a hairy ride.

Great to see someone actually present FACTS on this.

Some seem to think you can rock up to homeless services on Monday morning and be in 5 star luxury by Monday evening.

For what it's worth - in order to be classed as homeless as best I understand it.....

1) you have to have nowhere to go on the day you present.

2) so you can't present as homeless today on the basis that your deadline to move out of the rental is Friday NEXT WEEK.

3) Councils WILL push/encourage you to stay with friends and family first (so NO simply living with your parents does not mean homeless in their eyes).

For me this idea that declaring homeless is a route to landing dream outcomes feels a myth.

Sweet.Science

Utterly delusional . People are declaring homeless when that couldntbe further from the truth . I know people personally who have done it. They have done a stint staying in the Regency and now have their own place

Wake up and see whats going on .

People describing hotels as hell on Earth. For gods sake.

Old diesel

In any case - whether you are a single mum working 15 hours a week in the local cafe or a top CEO in Google - everyone is caught up in the same basic problem.

There are LESS housing units available than people who need a place to live.

There are NOT enough homes available from all sources and tenures of housing.

corner of hells

Sweet.Science wrote: »

Not too bad for a free house at the end of it to be honest. Not too bad at all.

That's assuming you're local authority is happy you're definitely meeting the criteria of homeless.

ONO means your out by ten am and must source your bed each night and bring all your belongings with you.

STA , TEA staff will tell very fast your housing options .
Of course , if you want to brazen it out in hostels it's up to yourself. Hopefully the mental and physical health holds up and your cool sharing bedrooms and bathrooms with IV drug users and people with significant mental I'll health. Oh and you'll be expected to pay rent.

The "free house" is definitely not guaranteed .

After about five or so years you're local authority might start looking at you for some sort of housing.

Wheeliebin30

corner of hells wrote: »

That's assuming you're local authority is happy you're definitely meeting the criteria of homeless.

ONO means your out by ten am and must source your bed each night and bring all your belongings with you.

STA , TEA staff will tell very fast your housing options .
Of course , if you want to brazen it out in hostels it's up to yourself. Hopefully the mental and physical health holds up and your cool sharing bedrooms and bathrooms with IV drug users and people with significant mental I'll health. Oh and you'll be expected to pay rent.

The "free house" is definitely not guaranteed .

After about five or so years you're local authority might start looking at you for some sort of housing.

Hold on one minute.

We’re talikng about hotels.

You don’t get turfed out during the day.


I heard Eoghan Murphy stating the other day that they have got the average time spent in emergency accommodation down to 3 months until your moved onto permanent housing.

Let’s stop the denial, once you go homeless you are looked at as priority.

Sure Margaret Cash got her house in Tallaght a few weeks ago.

Fiftyfilthy

Friend no 1 ‘homeless ‘ stuck a knife up to a fellow resident in a hotel, was arrested and charged (in the papers) few months later moved to a hub
Now has their foreva home has several kids Some live with her, majority don’t

Friend no 2 living in a hostel with their child 3 years now. Stays there 3 -4 days other days with their mum in their house

Offered an apartment in dublin suburb but refused as wants City Centre

In no rush to leave the hostel as will be worth it once she gets her foreva home in the City Centre . Does not need to move their possessions out everyday

corner of hells

Wheeliebin30 wrote: »

Hold on one minute.

I heard Eoghan Murphy stating the other day that they have got the average time spent in emergency accommodation down to 3 months until your moved onto permanent housing.

Let’s stop the denial, once you go homeless you are looked at as priority.

Sure Margaret Cash got her house in Tallaght a few weeks ago.

Nope , I work in a hostel .

Homeless priority went last may.

Eoghan Murphy is quoting move ons from family hubs into private rented.

Three months , I'd go live in a hostel myself.

Wheeliebin30

Fiftyfilthy wrote: »

Friend no 1 ‘homeless ‘ stuck a knife up to a fellow resident in a hotel, was arrested and charged (in the papers) few months later moved to a hub
Now has their foreva home has several kids Some live with her, majority don’t

Friend no 2 living in a hostel with their child 3 years now. Stays there 3 -4 days other days with their mum in their house

Offered an apartment in clongriffen but refused as wants City Centre

In no rush to leave the hostel as will be worth it once she gets her foreva home in the City Centre . Does not need to move their possessions out everyday

Absolute jokeshop.

Madness and unsustainable.

Sweet.Science

Wheeliebin30 wrote: »

Hold on one minute.

We’re talikng about hotels.

You don’t get turfed out during the day.


I heard Eoghan Murphy stating the other day that they have got the average time spent in emergency accommodation down to 3 months until your moved onto permanent housing.

Let’s stop the denial, once you go homeless you are looked at as priority.

Sure Margaret Cash got her house in Tallaght a few weeks ago.

Exactly . People keep pedaling utter nonsense to defend the free house and welfare spongers.

corner of hells

Fiftyfilthy wrote: »

Friend no 1 ‘homeless ‘ stuck a knife up to a fellow resident in a hotel, was arrested and charged (in the papers) few months later moved to a hub
Now has their foreva home has several kids Some live with her, majority don’t

Friend no 2 living in a hostel with their child 3 years now. Stays there 3 -4 days other days with their mum in their house

Offered an apartment in clongriffen but refused as wants City Centre

In no rush to leave the hostel as will be worth it once she gets her foreva home in the City Centre . Does not need to move their possessions out everyday

There's no kids in hostels.

corner of hells

Sweet.Science wrote: »

Exactly . People keep pedaling utter nonsense to defend the free house and welfare spongers.

Like yourself.

Sweet.Science

corner of hells wrote: »

Nope , I work in a hostel .

Homeless priority went last may.

Eoghan Murphy is quoting move ons from family hubs into private rented.

Three months , I'd go live in a hostel myself.

And why did homeless priority go. Because it was full of chancers .

corner of hells

Sweet.Science wrote: »

And why did homeless priority go. Because it was full of chancers .

That's spot on. You got something right.

Not full of chancers , some clowns thought they were going to be automatically housed.

Now go declare yourself "homeless".

Sweet.Science

I cant i have a mortgage for the next 33 years

corner of hells

Sweet.Science wrote: »

I cant i have a mortgage for the next 33 years

Well there ya go.

You are right , there are some who will try abuse whatever system is in place.

But there's a lot who are genuine homeless.

Fiftyfilthy

corner of hells wrote: »

There's no kids in hostels.

There are xxxxxx st or are they classified as b and bs? Either way it is 100% fact

corner of hells

Fiftyfilthy wrote: »

There is , gardener st or are they classified as b and bs? Either way it is 100% fact

B&B. ****holes.

Fiftyfilthy

corner of hells wrote: »

B&B. ****holes.

Never once complained about hers

She’s more than happy staying there until something suitable to her liking comes up

If was that ****, she would have taken the apartments offered in the past from the iveagh trust

corner of hells

Fiftyfilthy wrote: »

Never once complained about hers

She’s more than happy staying there until something suitable to her liking comes up

If was that ****, she would have taken the apartments offered in the past from the iveagh trust

I don't doubt you.

That's a strange one , Iveagh trust housing association accommodation are plums , too class.

She's hardly spoofing you , is she?

Fiftyfilthy

corner of hells wrote: »

I don't doubt you.

That's a strange one , Iveagh trust housing association accommodation are plums , too class.

She's hardly spoofing you , is she?

Know her all my life, no reason to lie to me

Said was offered apartment in Dublin suburb, went to view it, looks really nice but too far from where she wants

Said she had difficulties but managed to get that area removed from her preference list and now just wanting in City Centre