Turn down two houses and you're off the list

Dakotabigone

DARK-KNIGHT wrote: »

To the people saying that people shouldn't be wary where they take a house you are full of ****e

I know a family who took a house in athy neighbours were out travellers and said my sister is taking that house if you move in god help you

She had no choice and took the house

A month passed no problem

Kids playing on the green and came in crying as traveller kids were hitting them

Two minutes later one of the traveller women arrived at the door she then dragged the woman out onto the green by her hair and beat the ****e out of her

Ended up stamping on her face with a stiletto shoe and tore through her cheek

Tried stabbing her with the stiletto and after all that warned her one word to garda and she would set the house on fire with her family in it

So now that family live in absolute fear

Yes i agree beggars cant be choosers but have some ****ing compassion, they say we are all a few paychecks away from being homeless think if it happened you or someone you care about

Good plot for a Liam Neeson film.

dxhound2005

DARK-KNIGHT wrote: »

To the people saying that people shouldn't be wary where they take a house you are full of ****e

I know a family who took a house in athy neighbours were out travellers and said my sister is taking that house if you move in god help you

She had no choice and took the house

A month passed no problem

Kids playing on the green and came in crying as traveller kids were hitting them

Two minutes later one of the traveller women arrived at the door she then dragged the woman out onto the green by her hair and beat the ****e out of her

Ended up stamping on her face with a stiletto shoe and tore through her cheek

Tried stabbing her with the stiletto and after all that warned her one word to garda and she would set the house on fire with her family in it

So now that family live in absolute fear

Yes i agree beggars cant be choosers but have some ****ing compassion, they say we are all a few paychecks away from being homeless think if it happened you or someone you care about

What would have happened to her if she refused.

Topgear on Dave

What will the council do about the neighbours behaviour??

blanch152

corner of hells wrote: »

I wonder how many people work and volunteer with St Vincent de Paul ?

I give my time for free to two local organisations. There is nobody being paid in either case.

I used to donate to charities before but was sickened when I saw how much was being siphoned off. Since then, I now give the equivalent of four evenings a month of my time.

DARK-KNIGHT

dxhound2005 wrote: »

What would have happened to her if she refused.

Tbh i dont know

corner of hells

blanch152 wrote: »

I give my time for free to two local organisations. There is nobody being paid in either case.

I used to donate to charities before but was sickened when I saw how much was being siphoned off. Since then, I now give the equivalent of four evenings a month of my time.

Good for you.

It's pretty impressive that you continue to volunteer despite the fact that clearly feel that most charities are corrupt and inept.

blanch152

corner of hells wrote: »

Good for you.

It's pretty impressive that you continue to volunteer despite the fact that clearly feel that most charities are corrupt and inept.

Local organisations such as schools, sporting clubs, tidy towns, credit unions, etc. are less likely to be corrupt as they are local rather than national and don't offer huge salaries. They also tend to want time rather than money, so you can be sure where your time is going.

Everyone should give something back to society, just a pity that our national charities are mostly not worth it.

corner of hells

blanch152 wrote: »

Local organisations such as schools, sporting clubs, tidy towns, credit unions, etc. are less likely to be corrupt as they are local rather than national and don't offer huge salaries. They also tend to want time rather than money, so you can be sure where your time is going.

Everyone should give something back to society, just a pity that our national charities are mostly not worth it.

I won't be able to look my team in the eye in the morning ,knowing they're all corrupt.

cannotlogin

This won't be popular but if you can't afford to house yourself & are dependent on the state to do so, having never worked a day in your life, you should be limited to 2 kids max.

Those who contribute to society should be treated differently. No issue with those who fall on hard times but the life style choice scroungers should not be encouraged.

screamer

Topgear on Dave wrote: »

What will the council do about the neighbours behaviour??

SFA..... I know of houses being used to run drugs and prostitutes and the dwellers haven’t been kicked out.....council know about it too, others have complained as afraid of what is going on but council too scared they might come and burn down their offices.

gozunda

Graces7 wrote: »

Sorry i dont know your situation but the cheek of some people giving out about the time it takes the council to renovate their whole house for free.
Working people who buy their own house can work for 40 years and never have the money to do it.Sweet.Science "

These two situations are poles apart. What is being criticised is that council houses are lying empty for month after month when folk are in emergency accommodation through no fault of their own// And it is the council 's job as landlord to make a house safe and habitable, after the way some tenants leave the properties

Not renovation; simply basic safety repairs and painting.

These are rented houses not owned by the tenants . Many of us would far rather live in our own house in a poor state then in a rental.
and as others have said, many council tenants are in work

But according to yourself you moved from uk to here private rented with rent support to council? I don't understand tbh?

Dyr

corner of hells wrote: »

McVerry management are notorious for avoiding Gardai.

Back in the day, McVerrys first homeless shelter caused the local residents to be terrorized by the poor waifs and strays he was housing, people being beaten so badly they wound up being carted off in ambulances. His attitude was if the govt found him better accommodation it wouldn't be a problem, basically used the scumbaggery as a bargaining chip.


There's a reason the guys a household name. It's because he always made sure his own name was front and centre. If he was on fire I'd warm me hands off him.

holliehobbie

downtheroad wrote: »

mikep wrote: »

RasTa why did PMcV think it was a bad idea??

I heard McVerry on the radio saying that a 3 bedroom house might be offered to a family that has 4 or 5 kids and therefore it isn't acceptable.

Of course the reporter didn't think to ask why have the couple in this example had such a large when they can't afford to accommodate the children.

Why can't the kids double or triple up? Bunk beds?? Landlords have no trouble filling houses with bunk beds?

Alrigghtythen

DARK-KNIGHT wrote: »

To the people saying that people shouldn't be wary where they take a house you are full of ****e

I know a family who took a house in athy neighbours were out travellers and said my sister is taking that house if you move in god help you

She had no choice and took the house

A month passed no problem

Kids playing on the green and came in crying as traveller kids were hitting them

Two minutes later one of the traveller women arrived at the door she then dragged the woman out onto the green by her hair and beat the ****e out of her

Ended up stamping on her face with a stiletto shoe and tore through her cheek

Tried stabbing her with the stiletto and after all that warned her one word to garda and she would set the house on fire with her family in it

So now that family live in absolute fear

Yes i agree beggars cant be choosers but have some ****ing compassion, they say we are all a few paychecks away from being homeless think if it happened you or someone you care about

What did the court say about the vicious assault?

Colonel Claptrap

corner of hells wrote: »

Once it describes itself as a housing association , it using the landlord tenant wording , it moves away from charity.
I'd nearly bet it doesn't fundraise at any level.

More and more charities are changing their status to housing association and in some cases building , buying or sourcing property through legacy.

As far as I know , they were never a homeless charity .

Local Authorities do not want the trouble of maintaining large scale developments anymore and are quite happy to let housing associations do it.

I don't doubt your link but in that's what Cluid is now.

https://www.charitiesregulator.ie/en/information-for-the-public/search-the-charities-register/charity-detail?srchstr=Cluid&regid=20029975

Why would a non-charity have a registered charity number?

professore

twowheelsonly wrote: »

If you think that the only reason that people are turning down houses is because they don't have a large garden or are not next door to Mammy then you're either deluded or buying into the spin that authorities have put out. Those reasons might exist but I'd bet that they're in the region of one in a thousand refusals.
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Just saw a Facebook thread on this and people on that were giving EXACTLY those reasons for turning down houses, and were demanding it as their right - to working poor who have far worse accommodation they have to pay through the nose for. Its YOU that is the bigot, you clearly have the luxury of not living in the real world, where the poorest in Ireland are not those on welfare, but the 40% of people just "above" them who pay for everything but get nothing in return.

professore

blanch152 wrote: »

Local organisations such as schools, sporting clubs, tidy towns, credit unions, etc. are less likely to be corrupt as they are local rather than national and don't offer huge salaries. They also tend to want time rather than money, so you can be sure where your time is going.

Everyone should give something back to society, just a pity that our national charities are mostly not worth it.

You've never been involved in a local organisation, have you? I'd say they are more corrupt, as there are less people to know about it.

corner of hells

Colonel Claptrap wrote: »

https://www.charitiesregulator.ie/en/information-for-the-public/search-the-charities-register/charity-detail?srchstr=Cluid&regid=20029975

Why would a non-charity have a registered charity number?

They reach charitable status by being independent , non profit making bodies/ trusts providing for vulnerable sections in society.
The must meet certain criteria and are governed by some act , the must apply for their status and become known as an approved housing agency.

Nothing wrong with them , they do great work.

Mad_maxx

Galwayguy35 wrote: »

If the property is in good condition let them take what's offered or tell them to clear off and get their own house.

As for McVerry he's just annoying at this stage, criticizing everything and offering no solution.

Mc verry loves the media profile and he is always sure of a soft as putty interview

I find him to be a dangerous demagogue, in an interview with Ray D'Arcy twelve months ago, he said it should be illegal to evict a tenant or reposses a house

Wheeliebin30

Mad_maxx wrote: »

Mc verry loves the media profile and he is always sure of a soft as putty interview

I find him to be a dangerous demagogue, in an interview with Ray D'Arcy twelve months ago, he said it should be illegal to evict a tenant or reposses a house

And his smug laugh at people who have the cheek to work and pay for their own house.

Colonel Claptrap

corner of hells wrote: »

They reach charitable status by being independent , non profit making bodies/ trusts providing for vulnerable sections in society.
The must meet certain criteria and are governed by some act , the must apply for their status and become known as an approved housing agency.

Nothing wrong with them , they do great work.

So it is a charity then?
Why are you purposely trying to muddy the waters?

From yesterday...

corner of hells wrote: »

Cluid is not a homeless charity.
It's a housing association run like a business.

It provides housing to people nominated by their local authorities.

Sweet.Science

The quicker people accept the housing crisis cant be fixed the quicker homelessness figures will improve

People need to forget about building social houses en masse and concentrate on emergency shelter so we can get people off the streets

Boom_Bap

Sweet.Science wrote: »

The quicker people accept the housing crisis cant be fixed the quicker homelessness figures will improve

People need to forget about building social houses en masse and concentrate on emergency shelter so we can get people off the streets

Why not do both at the same time with some foresight and future planning also?

Fiftyfilthy

Sweet.Science wrote: »

The quicker people accept the housing crisis cant be fixed the quicker homelessness figures will improve

People need to forget about building social houses en masse and concentrate on emergency shelter so we can get people off the streets

That’s the problem

There are facilities for homeless people on the streets, they either live in hostels or prefer the streets

It’s the forever home brigade that the charities are more interested in these days, who are not homeless

Boggles

blanch152 wrote: »

If you produce evidence of eight charities with nobody earning over 100k, then I will have to look again. Until then, I will stick with my significant number.

I didn't make the claim, you did.

Produce your own "evidence".

So far you haven't.

blanch152 wrote: »

I give my time for free to two local organisations.

blanch152 wrote: »

Local organisations such as schools, sporting clubs, tidy towns, credit unions, etc. are less likely to be corrupt as they are local rather than national and don't offer huge salaries. They also tend to want time rather than money, so you can be sure where your time is going.

What's the going Salary of a CEO of a credit union? I imagine the remuneration package is quite competitive.

Also

Former credit union employee jailed for two years for theft

Credit union official jailed for theft of over €400,000

That's just in the past 4-5 months.

In light of this new information I guess you will no longer be "volunteering" your time with CU's?

Nonsense aside there is far more in the make up of large charities and not for profits then you and a couple of ould wans shaking a bucket outside Tesco.

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The more pertinent question is why are hard core FG supporters all of a sudden going out of their way to demonize Homeless Charities, it wouldn't be because they are openly critical of the government and their abject failure to deal with a housing crisis, would it?

What would be the net effect if all these charities seized to exist in the morning?

Sweet.Science

Boom_Bap wrote: »

Why not do both at the same time with some foresight and future planning also?

I genuinely dont think its possible. I feel like we are wasting our time trying to tackle it. No country can get it under control.

So why not just make sure we have nobody dying on our streets.

I know its a bit extreme

corner of hells

Colonel Claptrap wrote: »

So it is a charity then?
Why are you purposely trying to muddy the waters?

From yesterday...

Ah , I'm not trying to muddy the waters ...
I have a high opinion of of them.
I worked for one for a while.

Fiftyfilthy

Sweet.Science wrote: »

I genuinely dont think its possible. I feel like we are wasting our time trying to tackle it. No country can get it under control.

So why not just make sure we have nobody dying on our streets.

I know its a bit extreme

I agree, build all these house for the wasters of society then it will be houses for the working people, then houses for the middle class people then houses for the rich

The government builds everyone a free house

Sweet.Science

Sweet.Science wrote: »

I genuinely dont think its possible. I feel like we are wasting our time trying to tackle it. No country can get it under control.

So why not just make sure we have nobody dying on our streets.

I know its a bit extreme

I would have always classed someone who says they are homeless as a person that sleeps on the streets but that isn’t the case when it comes to stats.

What’s the criteria to be classed as homeless? Either a rough sleeper or in a B&B? Have I missed anything?

Fiftyfilthy

Strawberry Milkshake wrote: »

I would have always classed someone who says they are homeless as a person that sleeps on the streets but that isn’t the case when it comes to stats.

What’s the criteria to be classed as homeless? Either a rough sleeper or in a B&B? Have I missed anything?

Living at home with parents , living in a hub