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When did Gemma O Doherty go batshyt crazy?

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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 274 ✭✭Auntie Semite


    LOL. 9K views is "doing well". There are kids livestreaming fortnite that get multiples of that.

    Yes it's true, there are also 'Cam Girls' who get over 100k live viewers per show. I recently read about one young girl who sits in her bedroom making faces at the camera and earns 150k a week!
    If Gemma got naked in front of the camera she would probably increase her viewership 100 fold but it's a political show and that will always come second place to entertainment. It's still early days for Gemma, she's building her profile on YouTube and the progress thus far has been decent.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,983 ✭✭✭✭gmisk


    Yes it's true, there are also 'Cam Girls' who get over 100k live viewers per show. I recently read about one young girl who sits in her bedroom making faces at the camera and earns 150k a week!
    If Gemma got naked in front of the camera she would probably increase her viewership 100 fold but it's a political show and that will always come second place to entertainment. It's still early days for Gemma, she's building her profile on YouTube and the progress thus far has been decent.
    Would you honestly classify it as that?
    Would you classify info wars as a political show?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 274 ✭✭Auntie Semite


    gmisk wrote: »
    Succeeds in what exactly?
    Taking down unicorns?
    I'm sure you're aware that Unicorns are being used to teach the prevailing Gender ideology to children in some schools. This is what Gemma has a problem with. You may believe her to be a bigot.. That's fine. But she's not railing against mythical unicorns but the fact that they are being used to explain Gender beliefs to kids.
    If you haven't heard of this then maybe Google 'Gender Unicorns' to find out more.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 274 ✭✭Auntie Semite


    At what?

    A getting her message out there and providing an alternative platform which I think Ireland desperately needs.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,671 ✭✭✭dav3


    Yes it's true, there are also 'Cam Girls' who get over 100k live viewers per show. I recently read about one young girl who sits in her bedroom making faces at the camera and earns 150k a week!
    If Gemma got naked in front of the camera she would probably increase her viewership 100 fold but it's a political show and that will always come second place to entertainment. It's still early days for Gemma, she's building her profile on YouTube and the progress thus far has been decent.

    Come on now. Let’s not completely lose the run of ourselves here.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 274 ✭✭Auntie Semite


    gmisk wrote: »
    Would you honestly classify it as that?
    Would you classify info wars as a political show?

    Yes I would, well perhaps politics mixed with social issues. Info wars is the same (just because info wars is not exactly on the sane end of the spectrum doesn't mean its not about politics)
    Although I'm not overly familiar with Info Wars I watched a bit during the 2016 election but not since.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,037 ✭✭✭✭Grayson


    How about saying it's politics with a heavy dose of fiction that masquerades as politics.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 41,054 ✭✭✭✭ohnonotgmail


    Grayson wrote: »
    How about saying it's politics with a heavy dose of fiction that masquerades as politics.


    Or a whole lot of fiction of the particularly crazy kind with a little bit of politics thrown in.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,037 ✭✭✭✭Grayson


    Or a whole lot of fiction of the particularly crazy kind with a little bit of politics thrown in.

    Politically themed fiction with some fantasy/sci-fi thrown in?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 274 ✭✭Auntie Semite


    Or a whole lot of fiction of the particularly crazy kind with a little bit of politics thrown in.

    If that's what you think then that's fine. I don't agree (mostly)
    I wonder though if her detractors are actually watching her full shows?
    I notice there are very few down votes on YouTube, frankly I thought there would be a lot more. This tells me that perhaps people may not be actually watching but rather are relying on second hand information about her.
    Personally I always like to listen to a message myself whether I agree with it or not so I can fully grasp it and dismiss it with confidence.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,682 ✭✭✭Subcomandante Marcos


    There's a simple and very obvious answer to this 'dilemma'

    Get the churches out of the schools we pay for, let them run their own schools without taxpayer funding if they want.

    How Rory Quinn's repatriation program wasn't followed up with is a mystery the be.
    The churches were given the land in trust to provide education when the state couldn't/wouldn't. The state then paid for the construction of the schools and the salaries of the staff for the following 8 decades, the church are still holding on to the small amount of power the have with their filthy gurbby hands for dear life but should be told to **** off and have the lands turned back over to the state.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 274 ✭✭Auntie Semite


    gmisk wrote: »
    To each their own I suppose....perhaps religion helps people with some of those issues. I think a lot of people still have a degree of belief in a higher power but have little to no faith in the RC church and others, lets be honest a lot of their behaviour hasnt been exactly christian like.

    But I would take ICT from my point of view....


    That 2nd paragraph has gone full tinfoil hat brigade.....
    but I for one welcome our new luciferian worshipping overlords.

    This is an interesting one. I used to dismiss this as complete nonsense and I suppose I still do. But the argument is that those (whoever they are) at the top believe in Lucifer. Another way of putting it is a number of years ago a conspiracy minded person explained to me that he didn't believe in Lucifer but the elites do. That's the difference.
    Sounds crazy right?
    Well do you believe that Witches are real and that the power of Witchcraft is real?
    I certainly don't but Minister for Children Katherine Zapoone does and is in fact a self described Witch.
    She has written academic papers which confirm her genuine belief in Witchcraft.
    So the idea that politicians, high-ups or the 'elite' have crazy beliefs is not so far fetched really.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,510 ✭✭✭baby and crumble


    I'm sure you're aware that Unicorns are being used to teach the prevailing Gender ideology to children in some schools. This is what Gemma has a problem with. You may believe her to be a bigot.. That's fine. But she's not railing against mythical unicorns but the fact that they are being used to explain Gender beliefs to kids.
    If you haven't heard of this then maybe Google 'Gender Unicorns' to find out more.

    Here's the thing.

    When i was young, i thought I was a freak. I thought I was sick, that there was something wrong with me. Nobody talked about being gay, nobody every even mentioned it to me as a child. I was raised under the assumption I was straight, with my parents having raised me that way, my family was all straight, I never learned about 'gay stuff' until I was in secondary school, and even then it was all just whispered words and the odd thing on tv (inevitably that had a terrible ending for whatever gay characters there were).

    I'm 36 now and gay. I was always gay. I was never straight. I didn't learn about gay issues at an impressionable time and it took me until I was 21 to come out to myself and my family. I'm now a reasonably well adjusted, married woman with a good job, a good education, and I'm a fairly responsible adult with various responsibilities. But being forced all all the straight education in the world didn't make me straight. It's the same with gender.

    But there was a time in my teens when I was tempted to kill myself. I was tempted to do that because I was terrified I was the only person like me in the world, and CERTAINLY I was the only one in my little home town. i had to be, nobody talked about it. So I had some really dark dark times then. If someone in my school days had been like "hey, some people are gay that's fine" then my life in my teens would have been dramatically different. And safer.

    Which is why I will never ever ever stand by and let someone say 'we shouldn't teach kids about this stuff' because right now, whether YOU like it or not there's a little 7 year old freaking out because they think they're a freak, a weirdo, sick. Do you want their mental health on your conscience?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,983 ✭✭✭✭gmisk


    I'm sure you're aware that Unicorns are being used to teach the prevailing Gender ideology to children in some schools. This is what Gemma has a problem with. You may believe her to be a bigot.. That's fine. But she's not railing against mythical unicorns but the fact that they are being used to explain Gender beliefs to kids.
    If you haven't heard of this then maybe Google 'Gender Unicorns' to find out more.
    I know what it is and i think something that can help more easily explain gender isnt a bad thing, I am also not sure how widely it is used in ireland.

    Do you agree with Gemma that tea towels from TK Maxx with unicorns are pushing a transgender agenda?

    Or if unicorns appear anywhere are they doing this?
    https://twitter.com/gemmaod1/status/1100159633656815616



    Yes I do believe her to be a deranged bigot, not just on this instance you just have to look at all the dangerous anti vaxx rubbish she also spouts for example.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 41,054 ✭✭✭✭ohnonotgmail


    This is an interesting one. I used to dismiss this as complete nonsense and I suppose I still do. But the argument is that those (whoever they are) at the top believe in Lucifer. Another way of putting it is a number of years ago a conspiracy minded person explained to me that he didn't believe in Lucifer but the elites do. That's the difference.
    Sounds crazy right?
    Well do you believe that Witches are real and that the power of Witchcraft is real?
    I certainly don't but Minister for Children Katherine Zapoone does and is in fact a self described Witch.
    She has written academic papers which confirm her genuine belief in Witchcraft.
    So the idea that politicians, high-ups or the 'elite' have crazy beliefs is not so far fetched really.


    no more crazy than believing in the catholic church.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,983 ✭✭✭✭gmisk


    This is an interesting one. I used to dismiss this as complete nonsense and I suppose I still do. But the argument is that those (whoever they are) at the top believe in Lucifer. Another way of putting it is a number of years ago a conspiracy minded person explained to me that he didn't believe in Lucifer but the elites do. That's the difference.
    Sounds crazy right?
    Well do you believe that Witches are real and that the power of Witchcraft is real?
    I certainly don't but Minister for Children Katherine Zapoone does and is in fact a self described Witch.
    She has written academic papers which confirm her genuine belief in Witchcraft.
    So the idea that politicians, high-ups or the 'elite' have crazy beliefs is not so far fetched really.
    It does........because it is.


    If katherine zappone or anyone else is into that mumbo jumbo and considers herself/himself a white witch no skin of my nose. Its no less strange tbh to me than being a devout catholic and plenty of them in power.
    Can I ask why you singled out Katherine Zappone, is it because she is a lesbian?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,445 ✭✭✭✭Birneybau


    HAIL SATAN


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 274 ✭✭Auntie Semite


    Here's the thing.

    When i was young, i thought I was a freak. I thought I was sick, that there was something wrong with me. Nobody talked about being gay, nobody every even mentioned it to me as a child. I was raised under the assumption I was straight, with my parents having raised me that way, my family was all straight, I never learned about 'gay stuff' until I was in secondary school, and even then it was all just whispered words and the odd thing on tv (inevitably that had a terrible ending for whatever gay characters there were).

    I'm 36 now and gay. I was always gay. I was never straight. I didn't learn about gay issues at an impressionable time and it took me until I was 21 to come out to myself and my family. I'm now a reasonably well adjusted, married woman with a good job, a good education, and I'm a fairly responsible adult with various responsibilities. But being forced all all the straight education in the world didn't make me straight. It's the same with gender.

    But there was a time in my teens when I was tempted to kill myself. I was tempted to do that because I was terrified I was the only person like me in the world, and CERTAINLY I was the only one in my little home town. i had to be, nobody talked about it. So I had some really dark dark times then. If someone in my school days had been like "hey, some people are gay that's fine" then my life in my teens would have been dramatically different. And safer.

    Which is why I will never ever ever stand by and let someone say 'we shouldn't teach kids about this stuff' because right now, whether YOU like it or not there's a little 7 year old freaking out because they think they're a freak, a weirdo, sick. Do you want their mental health on your conscience?

    I obviously don't want anyone to suffer psychologically but I also don't want highly impressionable children to mutilate their bodies with surgery and hormones, destroy their genitals, permanently alter their bodily chemistry only to deeply regret it later and ultimately commit suicide.
    There's a huge difference between being gay which involves no body or hormonal modification and the type of transgenderism which does.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 274 ✭✭Auntie Semite


    no more crazy than believing in the catholic church.
    Yes and also Islam and Judaism. Would you agree that they are crazy beliefs?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,037 ✭✭✭✭Grayson


    If that's what you think then that's fine. I don't agree (mostly)
    I wonder though if her detractors are actually watching her full shows?
    I notice there are very few down votes on YouTube, frankly I thought there would be a lot more. This tells me that perhaps people may not be actually watching but rather are relying on second hand information about her.
    Personally I always like to listen to a message myself whether I agree with it or not so I can fully grasp it and dismiss it with confidence.

    I don't have time to watch her whole thing. I've seen clips and I do see her on twitter and the stuff she comes out with is crazy. It's proper conspiracy theory stuff.

    It's a pity. Because we are a small country we don't have many large newspapers and it would be great to have another investigative journalist. the problem is that she's jumped the shark. When she starts posting stuff like this, you know she's lost it.

    https://twitter.com/gemmaod1/status/1100371974319161344



    At this point she's her own worst enemy. No-one will ever take her seriously and for good reason too.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 41,054 ✭✭✭✭ohnonotgmail


    Yes and also Islam and Judaism. Would you agree that they are crazy beliefs?


    they are. But they are on a much lower level of crazy than believing the world is controlled by a luciferian worshipping illuminati,


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,037 ✭✭✭✭Grayson


    Yes and also Islam and Judaism. Would you agree that they are crazy beliefs?

    All religion is crazy and irrational. If it wasn't we'd be calling it science.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,367 ✭✭✭nozzferrahhtoo


    Yes and also Islam and Judaism. Would you agree that they are crazy beliefs?

    I think "Crazy" is a value judgement we do not need. Better for me is to identify their core teachings are unsubstantiated delusions. There are no reasons at this time on offer to think there is a god, a Satan, or magical witches or unicorns. Or that Jesus and Mo were anything other than entirely normal every day humans assuming they both existed at all.

    One can not prove none of these things exist, but to operate under the illusion they do without a single piece of evidence that they do, is delusional really. Which is fine if you want to be deluded but I am unsure why we need to be indoctrinating children into the same delusions. At least when we tell children Transgender people exist, we have evidence that is actually true.

    There is however reasons to think the feelings behind transgenderism are real and that people are genuinely suffering because of them. And if there are procedures and processes by which their well being can be improved, I am for that.

    I am reading the text on that tweet above over and over and over and can not actually identify what triggered the Twitter user in question to become so offended by it. I am not seeing the "filth" in the text of the image. Could someone help me out there?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 274 ✭✭Auntie Semite


    gmisk wrote: »
    It does........because it is.


    If katherine zappone or anyone else is into that mumbo jumbo and considers herself/himself a white witch no skin of my nose. Its no less strange tbh to me than being a devout catholic and plenty of them in power.
    Can I ask why you singled out Katherine Zappone, is it because she is a lesbian?

    My point was that a poster mentioned Luciferian worshiping elites, another poster described that as bat**** and all I was saying was that it was not such a far fetched idea as even one of our own politicians holds a belief that most of us would consider crazy IE Zappone and witchcraft.
    Her sexuall orientation is neither here nor there I don't know why you would say that.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 41,054 ✭✭✭✭ohnonotgmail


    I think "Crazy" is a value judgement we do not need. Better for me is to identify their core teachings are unsubstantiated delusions. There are no reasons at this time on offer to think there is a god, a Satan, or magical witches or unicorns. Or that Jesus and Mo were anything other than entirely normal every day humans assuming they both existed at all.

    One can not prove none of these things exist, but to operate under the illusion they do without a single piece of evidence that they do, is delusional really. Which is fine if you want to be deluded but I am unsure why we need to be indoctrinating children into the same delusions. At least when we tell children Transgender people exist, we have evidence that is actually true.

    There is however reasons to think the feelings behind transgenderism are real and that people are genuinely suffering because of them. And if there are procedures and processes by which their well being can be improved, I am for that.

    I am reading the text on that tweet above over and over and over and can not actually identify what triggered the Twitter user in question to become so offended by it. I am not seeing the "filth" in the text of the image. Could someone help me out there?


    well its unicorns innit? You know, indoctrinating children into the gayness. Or something.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,510 ✭✭✭baby and crumble


    I obviously don't want anyone to suffer psychologically but I also don't want highly impressionable children to mutilate their bodies with surgery and hormones, destroy their genitals, permanently alter their bodily chemistry only to deeply regret it later and ultimately commit suicide.
    There's a huge difference between being gay which involves no body or hormonal modification and the type of transgenderism which does.

    Ok, let's really get in to this.

    Children CANNOT do these things legally in Ireland, without parental consent.

    Anyone over the age of 18 can self declare their gender contrary to a birth certificate. A teenager who is aged 16-17 can do so but it is a much stricter process.

    There is a 2-year wait to see an endocrinologist here in Ireland, in order to start medical transition, with starts with hormones. There are currently only TWO endocrinologists in Ireland working in the field of trans healthcare, for the estimated 1-2% of the population who are trans.

    There are NO surgeons operating in Ireland who will perform genital surgery.

    Significant research has been carried out by medical professionals, psychiatric professionals etc and the majority of these studies confirm that working with children who are gender variant in some way SAVES LIVES. Do yo know what the current rate of suicide is for trans youth? 78% of trans people have thought about committing suicide and 40% have attempted it. The reason most often given by trans people is because of the deep mental anguish experienced by being consistently misgendered and told, by people like you, that they are wrong. These number of trans people thinking about suicide etc AFTER transition reduces SIGNIFICANTLY and becomes more in line with the rest of society.

    Please educate yourself on gender and trans issues and research before making wild assumptions the issue.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,995 ✭✭✭Ipso


    Birneybau wrote: »
    HAIL SATAN

    At least he killed less people than god.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,995 ✭✭✭Ipso


    Grayson wrote: »
    I don't have time to watch her whole thing. I've seen clips and I do see her on twitter and the stuff she comes out with is crazy. It's proper conspiracy theory stuff.

    It's a pity. Because we are a small country we don't have many large newspapers and it would be great to have another investigative journalist. the problem is that she's jumped the shark. When she starts posting stuff like this, you know she's lost it.

    https://twitter.com/gemmaod1/status/1100371974319161344



    At this point she's her own worst enemy. No-one will ever take her seriously and for good reason too.

    Why is five years the magic number, do unicorns not like it?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 41,054 ✭✭✭✭ohnonotgmail


    Ipso wrote: »
    At least he killed less people than god.


    There is only one reference in the bible of Satan killing anybody. And God ordered him to do it.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 274 ✭✭Auntie Semite


    Ok, let's really get in to this.

    Children CANNOT do these things legally in Ireland, without parental consent.

    Anyone over the age of 18 can self declare their gender contrary to a birth certificate. A teenager who is aged 16-17 can do so but it is a much stricter process.

    There is a 2-year wait to see an endocrinologist here in Ireland, in order to start medical transition, with starts with hormones. There are currently only TWO endocrinologists in Ireland working in the field of trans healthcare, for the estimated 1-2% of the population who are trans.

    There are NO surgeons operating in Ireland who will perform genital surgery.

    Significant research has been carried out by medical professionals, psychiatric professionals etc and the majority of these studies confirm that working with children who are gender variant in some way SAVES LIVES. Do yo know what the current rate of suicide is for trans youth? 78% of trans people have thought about committing suicide and 40% have attempted it. The reason most often given by trans people is because of the deep mental anguish experienced by being consistently misgendered and told, by people like you, that they are wrong. These number of trans people thinking about suicide etc AFTER transition reduces SIGNIFICANTLY and becomes more in line with the rest of society.

    Please educate yourself on gender and trans issues and research before making wild assumptions the issue.
    Some would say the suicide rate is so high because transitioning ultimately doesn't work.
    Even the experience of Jazz Jenning whos newly formed Vagina 'fell apart' soon after surgery shows that medical science is not quite ready for this yet.

    I have to say I am loathe to continue this discussion as I feel if I express my genuine opinions on the subject I will get banned and I only joined the site yesterday.


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