Anthem

goon_magee

Thing is the reason Anthem was a disappointment stemmed from Bioware themselves, pretty much had nothing to do with EA. Its been well documented at this stage that EA involvement was limited, and in fact the biggest impact they had was insisting on flying being reintroduced to the game which ended up being one of the games biggest strengths.

Do EA make a lot of missteps? Sure, but they aren't to blame for the Anthem debacle.

I also don't think anyone who played Anthem has asked anyone to "feel bad" for them. What people find ridiculous is this air of superiority and arrogance from people who took pleasure in seeing the game fail and almost seemed to love the fact that some people gave Anthem a chance and got burned. Its absolutely pathetic.

CatInABox

goon_magee wrote: »

Thing is the reason Anthem was a disappointment stemmed from Bioware themselves, pretty much had nothing to do with EA. Its been well documented at this stage that EA involvement was limited, and in fact the biggest impact they had was insisting on flying being reintroduced to the game which ended up being one of the games biggest strengths.

Do EA make a lot of missteps? Sure, but they aren't to blame for the Anthem debacle.

I also don't think anyone who played Anthem has asked anyone to "feel bad" for them. What people find ridiculous is this air of superiority and arrogance from people who took pleasure in seeing the game fail and almost seemed to love the fact that some people gave Anthem a chance and got burned. Its absolutely pathetic.

I don't think that EA can wash their hands so easily. They're the ones that mandated the frostbite engine for all of their games, a decision that's crippled studios. Bioware then had to compete with other EA studios for support for frostbite, but because their projected sales where dwarfed by the Battlefields and the FIFAs, they were bottom of the pile when it came to fixing/helping them.

The only EA studio that doesn't have to suffer the Frostbite engine is Respawn, and they've produced some of the best games of the generation, with Fallen Jedi looking like another hit.

dreamers75

Jumping back in (origin Premier for Star Wars) so may as well have a look see.

Loved the shootee flyee part, hated the other parts.

but man the shootee flyee part was sweet.

Potential-Monke

I see it's in EA Access now, might finally give it a try and see what the flying fuss was about. Will be playing it Solo, so that probably won't help as these games are not designed for solo players, as much as they claim it can be done. But will give it a go anyway.

dreamers75

Only actually started playing it this week, its combat is still simply awesome.

Pros since last playing in May:
Time trials are fun.
More missions in the open world.
More things to do not a lot tho.
Melee and something else added
Got some legendaries without really trying.
if you match with similiar everyone is on point trying to kill whatever it is, no communication so guess we all ninjas.

Cons
Still a bit boring when not in mission.
Excessive loading screens still there.
Not many playing at my level (gm1 lil bit of Gm2)I am either a flying god with new players or being kerb stomped. Not much in between.
No new enemies that I have seen, still the same ones.
I have no clue what ranger build I should have and seem to the only ranger in any given matchmaking (might be a hint there)
i rage quit the newish water level as i had no idea where to go or what to do and ended out on my own fighting an army whilst the others were somewhere else, winning I guess.
Still no in game text chat.

OptimusTractor

Picked this up in CeX for a tenner yesterday if anyone still plays on PS4.

Kiith

dreamers75 wrote: »

Still no in game text chat.

That boggles the mind for me, especially on pc. Lets make it as hard as possible to have a social environment in a cop-op online shooter.

Potential-Monke

Forgot this was on EA Access, worth a shot for a solo player? Didn't like Destiny if that makes a difference.

Muppet Man

See post 1006 above - pretty accurate. There's about 15 hours of fun game play in the missions... Albeit a bit repetitive. Unlocking each of the characters and then messing around with them. The game play, gun play and character movement are epic.

It's not so bad... Just gets a bit boring after that

Potential-Monke

Cool, when I'm stuck for something to play, I'll give it a burn. Thanks!

goon_magee

I got around 100 hours or so out of it before I burned out. It wasn't so much that I wanted to be done with the game, rather the lack of meaningful content being added and the uncertainty of the game just made it difficult to justify putting any further time into it.

Those first 100 hours were a blast though, and to date I genuinely hope the rumours around the huge overhaul that is supposedly coming are true because I would love a reason to jump back in and engage with the core gameplay and superb combat.

DARK-KNIGHT

is this game worth picking up now for xbox one x?

Muppet Man

DARK-KNIGHT wrote: »

is this game worth picking up now for xbox one x?

Depends on price, but basically yes. read last two or three pages on this thread.

goon_magee

Game is cheap as chips now usually, so worth a blast as there is a decent bit of enjoyable content to blast through, especially relative to the price the game usually is these days. Some decent posts about the state of the game above should give you some good insight as to what to expect.

Optimus said a few posts up that he picked a copy of the game up for a tenner in CEX I think, so worst comes to worst just grab a copy from there.

Revoker88

Think i got 70hrs in before the fatigue set in,probably played 5hrs more than i should have aswell,not a single legendary in that time,was farming strongholds at GM 2 mostly with the odd run of GM 3,not one bloody legendary:p


The loot was well and truely terrible at that time. At its current price point the game is well worth a go if you like the sound of flying round like iron man raining death from above,which is very enjoyable,it just doesnt have much more to it than that though

OptimusTractor

This is annoying. Can't be that hard to bring us forward.

Muppet Man

Honestly, I thought they fixed that one in one of the very many bug fix releases... clearly not.

OptimusTractor

Muppet Man wrote: »

Honestly, I thought they fixed that one in one of the very many bug fix releases... clearly not.

From what I can gather it's been fixed for strongholds but can happen everywhere else.

goon_magee

https://uk.ign.com/articles/anthem-getting-major-overhaul-bioware-confirms

Delighted to read this. There is something there worth salvaging. The gameplay is absoultely fantastic, so if they can get the game around it right then I'm all for it.

Revoker88

At this point it think it would be the only thing to get me back playing,glad to see EA/Bio are at least going to try and work on the game rather than just abandoning it.

Hopefully they can make a success of it.

Calhoun

Is the christmas events still up? they had allot of the fans still playing a bit worried about that.

Nody

Calhoun wrote: »

Is the christmas events still up? they had allot of the fans still playing a bit worried about that.

Yup; the event is now extended until end of Feb. because they got nothing to replace it with. As for the overhaul; sure thing. Ignore me sitting here in the corner giggling because we're talking EA and Bioware here; chances of that overhaul is close to zero as you can get. Anthem was only mentioned as an example on how to connect it to a mobile app in the last major discussion with stockholders etc. but they will throw all these resources at it now to fix everything; sure they will and they are not in any way lying to the public or something instead, no they would never do that.

goon_magee

Nody wrote: »

Yup; the event is now extended until end of Feb. because they got nothing to replace it with. As for the overhaul; sure thing. Ignore me sitting here in the corner giggling because we're talking EA and Bioware here; chances of that overhaul is close to zero as you can get. Anthem was only mentioned as an example on how to connect it to a mobile app in the last major discussion with stockholders etc. but they will throw all these resources at it now to fix everything; sure they will and they are not in any way lying to the public or something instead, no they would never do that.

News of the overhaul was leaked and reported on long before this confirmation from Bioware themselves, so it seems legitimate.

In any event, what would Bioware stand to gain by explicitly confirming that they are working on a relaunch, if they weren't actually working on a relaunch? Sound logic right there.

Nody

goon_magee wrote: »

News of the overhaul was leaked and reported on long before this confirmation from Bioware themselves, so it seems legitimate.

In any event, what would Bioware stand to gain by explicitly confirming that they are working on a relaunch, if they weren't actually working on a relaunch? Sound logic right there.

To keep the few players still around (Christmas decorations in February, really...); to give an excuse to add more monetization to the game (hey guys, if you don't buy this stuff we can't complete the rework) and to frame a reason for people to come back and pay more for the "relaunch" after buying a $60 beta.

goon_magee

Nody wrote: »

To keep the few players still around (Christmas decorations in February, really...); to give an excuse to add more monetization to the game (hey guys, if you don't buy this stuff we can't complete the rework) and to frame a reason for people to come back and pay more for the "relaunch" after buying a $60 beta.

I mean you have every right to be sceptical, I just don't think they would be stupid enough to come out with a reveal that basically confirms Anthem 2.0 unless it was something they intend to deliver. Bioware is already on thin ice, it would make no sense from a reputational standpoint to do something so daft.

That and the fact that this overhaul leaked way ahead of any official announcement would suggest to me it is legit and something already being worked on.

Dcully

Great news but lets wait and see before getting too excited
The core gameplay and combat in Anthem is exceptional but everything else is terrible.
A bunch of talented devs with really poor executive decisions all across the board while at the same time rushing it out the door.

Seems to be a recurring theme with looter game devs that panic when their game fails and then they rethink things and try to rebuild a loot and progression system that should be there from the beginning.
Bungie somewhat turned it around with Destiny 2 if Anthem gets a decent system in place ill revisit for sure.

Calhoun

Its EA and its also Casey Hudson whom was a key architect in the current **** show.

It will be a case of wait and see rather than giving them blind faith on delivering something.

Bungie turned it around because they essentially played the politics of their partnership with Activision and said they were forced into it. Bioware doesn't have the ability to do that.

I get it though we have seen the likes of Final Fantasy and No mans sky rebuild but the hype train would be wise to settle until they see what they can produce, as EA doesn't do failed ventures and normally scraps if they see no money being made.

Revoker88

I dont see anyone "taking it on blind faith" its going to be good,most people are saying there happy to see a game they enjoyed potentially being improved in the areas that it really needed to work on.

Calhoun

Don't see anyone here but other places online there is still a bit of that smug bioware will sort us crap.

Revoker88

Ugh,yeah i dont get that either.

Im hopeful because i think the game has potential bit it defo be a wait and see kinda thing. They have a long way to go