Anthem

Revoker88

Ah man that sucks and just alienates the players that are still playing the game.

Also not a fan of these companies releasing info on social media,tell me whats going on in the game i bought not on some platform that has zero to do with the game.

Considering how the game has done you would think they would change these sorts of things to get players playing the game or keep active players playing. After all you cant make money from zero players.

gimli2112

EoinHef wrote: »

Also not a fan of these companies releasing info on social media,tell me whats going on in the game i bought not on some platform that has zero to do with the game.

the hardest trophy for me to get on Borderlands 3 was opening the chest with a gold key. "A swift code" I'd say, like I knew what the other person was talking about.

Revoker88

gimli2112 wrote: »

the hardest trophy for me to get on Borderlands 3 was opening the chest with a gold key. "A swift code" I'd say, like I knew what the other person was talking about.

He he,i had to google how to open the golden chest after intially thinkin something would happen further on in the story. Saw rolands chest and couldnt get too it aswell,so that reinforced the idea i must have to get further on in the game!

Im not on social media anymore really,well unless you consider a barely used reddit account and my account here on boards,so ive no interest in having to go looking for this info on those platform. Even if you are on them and subscribe id wager your going to get a load of advertising garbage inbetween the stuff thats relevent to you.

Penn

Penn wrote: »

Was sure this thread was bumped because of the newest Jimquisition video; a look back at Anthem and the problems around it

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UgifZjKd6-A

Harsh but true.

What a flop on so many levels

Grumpypants

Penn wrote: »

Was sure this thread was bumped because of the newest Jimquisition video; a look back at Anthem and the problems around it

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UgifZjKd6-A

Let me guess he says "live service" in a squeaky voice.

goon_magee

It really would take something spectacular to save this now; having read the patch notes for 1.5 and the new season, spectacular isn't a word that comes to mind.

Similar to Destiny in its first year, the game effectively needs a re-launch, Taken King style, to stand any hope of garnering enough interest for the game to even stand a chance of regaining a healthy player base.

It genuinely feels like Bioware are being told by EA to do the bare minimum to keep the game alive just so they don't have to face the bandwagon of hate they would come up against were they to kill the game now.

Muppet Man

I started playing Destiny 2 again last night after a 12 month hiatus and its worlds apart in terms of quality & content from Anthem. Funny how you get used to something and think its great, despite the obvious bugs and lack of content. Its a shame really - I think most of the pain points are ironed out, there's just nothing to play really with Anthem.

Kiith

I think they'd almost be respected more to just call it quits and pull the plug. Who knows, maybe we'll get a FF14 style reinvention and they'll actually build on the enjoyable combat/flight mechanics, while removing the vast quantities of absolute bonkers design decisions.

goon_magee

Kiith wrote: »

I think they'd almost be respected more to just call it quits and pull the plug. Who knows, maybe we'll get a FF14 style reinvention and they'll actually build on the enjoyable combat/flight mechanics, while removing the vast quantities of absolute bonkers design decisions.

I certainly think there would be a portion of rational people who would respect them if they just held their hands up and admitted defeat. I still think those people would be drowned out by the "I told you so" brigade who wanted the game to fail from the start before it was even released.

Not to mention the likes of Mr Sterling and Skill Up/Laymen Gaming who would undoubtedly relish the opportunity to celebrate the game's demise even further. Jim in particular really annoys me these days; we get it Jim, you hate live service games and microtransactions, a lot of people do, especially in the case of the latter. But his hatred for both concepts now seems to permeate everything he does, even when covering games that contain neither he can't help but use other games doing things right as a platform to continue his live service/MT crusade....Tiresome really and a shame as I used to turn to his channel regularly until he became a broken, obsessive record.

Penn

goon_magee wrote: »

I certainly think there would be a portion of rational people who would respect them if they just held their hands up and admitted defeat. I still think those people would be drowned out by the "I told you so" brigade who wanted the game to fail from the start before it was even released.

Not to mention the likes of Mr Sterling and Skill Up/Laymen Gaming who would undoubtedly relish the opportunity to celebrate the game's demise even further. Jim in particular really annoys me these days; we get it Jim, you hate live service games and microtransactions, a lot of people do, especially in the case of the latter. But his hatred for both concepts now seems to permeate everything he does, even when covering games that contain neither he can't help but use other games doing things right as a platform to continue his live service/MT crusade....Tiresome really and a shame as I used to turn to his channel regularly until he became a broken, obsessive record.

Have started going off him a bit myself, especially when his Borderlands 3 review was just a catalogue of everything Randy Pitchford has ever done, with a "Yeah, gameplay is alright" thrown in. Plus his videos seemed to have jumped to 20+ minutes as a default over the past few months.

That said, Anthem is a pretty good example of the things he becomes a broken record about. A live service game with a roadmap which, due to bad reviews and a whole bunch of issues, abandons the roadmap and has to spend so long fixing the issues with the game that they can barely provide anything for those who want to keep playing the game as a live service.

goon_magee

Penn wrote: »

Have started going off him a bit myself, especially when his Borderlands 3 review was just a catalogue of everything Randy Pitchford has ever done, with a "Yeah, gameplay is alright" thrown in. Plus his videos seemed to have jumped to 20+ minutes as a default over the past few months.

That said, Anthem is a pretty good example of the things he becomes a broken record about. A live service game with a roadmap which, due to bad reviews and a whole bunch of issues, abandons the roadmap and has to spend so long fixing the issues with the game that they can barely provide anything for those who want to keep playing the game as a live service.

His Borderlands review was pretty cringeworthy alright. It was like he was almost, and a great example of my growing fatigue towards his content. Even videos on relatively positive topics become additional avenues for him to moan about ****e he hates.

I'm not for a second saying his opinions are wrong though, his video on Anthem was pretty spot on and in general I agree with his opinions. I just wish he wasn't becoming so one dimensional

nevelator

Grumpypants wrote: »

Let me guess he says "live service" in a squeaky voice.

I set it to 2 x playback speed - so it was really high pitched!

Varik

Kiith wrote: »

I think they'd almost be respected more to just call it quits and pull the plug. Who knows, maybe we'll get a FF14 style reinvention and they'll actually build on the enjoyable combat/flight mechanics, while removing the vast quantities of absolute bonkers design decisions.

FF14 is an pretty unique, even the like of ubi who stick to it and build something out of their games that didn't hit the ground running is odd.

The fact EA has pulled the plug is odd for them.

Penn wrote: »

Have started going off him a bit myself, especially when his Borderlands 3 review was just a catalogue of everything Randy Pitchford has ever done, with a "Yeah, gameplay is alright" thrown in. Plus his videos seemed to have jumped to 20+ minutes as a default over the past few months.

That said, Anthem is a pretty good example of the things he becomes a broken record about. A live service game with a roadmap which, due to bad reviews and a whole bunch of issues, abandons the roadmap and has to spend so long fixing the issues with the game that they can barely provide anything for those who want to keep playing the game as a live service.

Fixing issues or creating content they need to actual be able to fund it. The problem with microtransaction financed DLC content/live service is that if the numbers and on going revenue isn't there then that roadmap goes out the windows. The likes of BF V is a great example it's live service has been dismal, older games in the series even when they had serious issues at the start and falling player numbers at times they still had a decent bit of new content as EA could count on X number of hardcore players to buy the €15 dlc.

sticker

Just picked this up on PS4 for €16 in Smyths. Has patching post lunch improved the player experience? I know it was somewhat infamous at launch...

Thanks

SolvableKnave

goon_magee

sticker wrote: »

Just picked this up on PS4 for €16 in Smyths. Has patching post lunch improved the player experience? I know it was somewhat infamous at launch...

Thanks

Haven't played in a while but last I played they had certainly made a good few quality of life improvements that improved the game and cut out a lot of unnecessary time spent in menus and the like. Previously the game was very disjointed and you spent a lot of time in loading screens as menus and missions loaded; a lot of that has been cut out.

As for the game itself though, content wise it still leaves a lot to be desired. They have gone from having a roadmap to a drip feed of seasonal events that don't promote long term engagement in the same way similar games do. For 16 quid though you can't really go wrong; you will have a decent time playing through the story missions, and the process of running strongholds and seasonal content once you hit end game is fun whilst you gear up the different javelins which there is 4 of. Not really much to add beyond that, it's a decent looter shooter that reveals itself to have a pretty shallow end game once you have been at it for a while and you will likely drop it and move on fairly quickly after that.

Negatives aside, the core gameplay is still some of the best, if not the best I have experienced in the looter shooter space to date, so it is definitely worth the price you paid for it in that respect. The actual combat and act of flying is hugely satisfying and should keep you entertained for a decent while.

sticker

goon_magee wrote: »

Haven't played in a while but last I played they had certainly made a good few quality of life improvements that improved the game and cut out a lot of unnecessary time spent in menus and the like. Previously the game was very disjointed and you spent a lot of time in loading screens as menus and missions loaded; a lot of that has been cut out.

As for the game itself though, content wise it still leaves a lot to be desired. They have gone from having a roadmap to a drip feed of seasonal events that don't promote long term engagement in the same way similar games do. For 16 quid though you can't really go wrong; you will have a decent time playing through the story missions, and the process of running strongholds and seasonal content once you hit end game is fun whilst you gear up the different javelins which there is 4 of. Not really much to add beyond that, it's a decent looter shooter that reveals itself to have a pretty shallow end game once you have been at it for a while and you will likely drop it and move on fairly quickly after that.

Negatives aside, the core gameplay is still some of the best, if not the best I have experienced in the looter shooter space to date, so it is definitely worth the price you paid for it in that respect. The actual combat and act of flying is hugely satisfying and should keep you entertained for a decent while.

Thanks for the feedback - much appreciated

Muppet Man

sticker wrote: »

Thanks for the feedback - much appreciated

Agree with goon Magee above .... but I wouldn’t hold out much hope for a good multiplayer experience on the various multiplayer content pieces (strongholds).. player count is down significantly and matchmaking might take a while.

There’s probably a good few weeks or a months worth of entertainment before you will get bored. Gameplay itself is very very good and the open world spaces and enemies look fantastic.

Muppet man

Dcully

Negatives aside, the core gameplay is still some of the best, if not the best I have experienced in the looter shooter space to date, so it is definitely worth the price you paid for it in that respect. The actual combat and act of flying is hugely satisfying and should keep you entertained for a decent while.

Totally agree, ive pedaled this point from the very beginning on here and got **** from a certain a few along the way but i know looter games better than most, ive them all and continue to play them constantly on all formats covering all genres and have done so for longer than i remember.

In a way this amazing aspect of the game makes the rest of the experience, the devs issues etc all the more galling as its such a huge shame.

Personally speaking i only played via origin access so i didnt pay big for the game which im fine with but feel bad for anyone who paid full price.

Revoker88

You should have tried liking No Mans Sky when it came out,now that was some sorta crime on here:P

This game was similar though,some people were offended that others liked the gameplay.

The campaign was decent but the end game was terrible. Cant really bring myself to go back and play it now but i was happy playing it at the time. Just felt there wasnt much worth doing after the campaign and a few stronghold runs.

nix

Dcully wrote: »

feel bad for anyone who paid full price.

You shouldnt, how many times EA gotta burn people for them to learn a lesson?

Nody

nix wrote: »

You shouldnt, how many times EA gotta burn people for them to learn a lesson?

Seeing how many picked up the Fallout subscription I'd estimate it at eternity+1 times.

Revoker88

nix wrote: »

You shouldnt, how many times EA gotta burn people for them to learn a lesson?

Or maybe some of us understand the hype gets some people some times and can understand it?

Never made a miatake in your life?

Must be hard to breath all the way up there on that high horse:P

nix

EoinHef wrote: »

Or maybe some of us understand the hype gets some people some times and can understand it?

Never made a miatake in your life?

Must be hard to breath all the way up there on that high horse:P

High horse? ah c'mon! theres making a mistake, and then theres repeating the exact same mistake over and over.. :rolleyes:

The Phantom Pain

According to Jason Schreirer of Kotaku, Bioware are planning a No Man's Sky-like comeback with a major overhaul to the entire game. Good on them for trying but I have my doubts as to whether it will be successful. Bioware come across as super incompetent these days.

goon_magee

I think it has a chance of finding a respectable player base if done right. Those who liked the game but fell off due to lack of content (like myself) will definitely come back, and I think a fair few will be tempted to check it out outta pure curiosity given what a high profile disaster it turned out to be.

That's if any of what Schreier is saying is true of course, though as much as I cannot stand the guy he is usually fairly reliable

Revoker88

nix wrote: »

High horse? ah c'mon! theres making a mistake, and then theres repeating the exact same mistake over and over.. :rolleyes:

Your makin a rather large assumption here,just because someone bought anthem doesnt mean they pre order every EA game.

Id wager nearly everyone on here has bought a game they were disspointed in at some point. I know i have,it happens.

I guess to me theres no point in scoffing at people for getting caught out.

On another note id be up for giving the game another try. Its not a million miles away from being quite good imo. They do have quite a bit to sort out though so hopefully they get the time,resources and have the talent to do just that.

I would have reservations givin EA's involvement though.

_CreeD_

Why the fk must online gaming be about the team you support? That having paid for any game has to be a mistake worthy of scorn. The simple fact is if you didn't buy it, you don't have a FKN oppinion in it. You simply have an oppinion of someone else's oppinion (youtbuber, online reivewer etc.). To think that this type of oppinion/squared is more valuable than someone who paid for it and played that damn thing is just utter nuts.
High horse? You literally don't actually have any to begin with. The game's failings are as they are, that is no reflection on the people who bought it (and those who played it through fledgling (at the time) sub services).

Sorry but the idea of someone who has never played a game looking down on the oppinions of anyone who has? Ludicrous.

nix

EoinHef wrote: »

I would have reservations givin EA's involvement though.

Exactly, EA deliver broken/unfinished messes. its widely known, yet people still preorder blindly and then get pissed on release. This is going on for over a decade now with EA and people still make the mistake. So its because of this, I don't feel bad for people who clearly ignore the warning signs.

Now those just dipping their toes into gaming, sure.. /sadface

EoinHef wrote: »

Id wager nearly everyone on here has bought a game they were disspointed in at some point. I know i have,it happens.

Sure, game companies release the odd miss, EA however constantly do it and people some how seem surprised? I'm sure if you look back through this thread you will likely see me posting prior to release that this will be a hot mess.

Even if Anthem was a hit, they wouldnt be helping to nurture the Anthem community for long if at all, they would just be focusing on making Anthem 2, which for the type of game it is, is terrible. :rolleyes:

Apex legends is the only thing ive seen EA handle well in AAAAGES, and thats because they're letting Respawn make pretty much all decisions.

nix

_CreeD_ wrote: »

Why the fk must online gaming be about the team you support? That having paid for any game has to be a mistake worthy of scorn. The simple fact is if you didn't buy it, you don't have a FKN oppinion in it. You simply have an oppinion of someone else's oppinion (youtbuber, online reivewer etc.). To think that this type of oppinion/squared is more valuable than someone who paid for it and played that damn thing is just utter nuts.
High horse? You literally don't actually have any to begin with. The game's failings are as they are, that is no reflection on the people who bought it (and those who played it through fledgling (at the time) sub services).

Sorry but the idea of someone who has never played a game looking down on the oppinions of anyone who has? Ludicrous.