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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,890 ✭✭✭Rattlehead_ie


    ...and in comparison then others like Cities:Skyline, which weren't without flaws either, made what was and still is a great game.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,880 ✭✭✭Canis Lupus


    Sim City launched and it was an online only title. A SP city building game (with MP options yes) was online only. The largest city you could build was a medium. Variety of roads to be built was limited. Servers didn't work on launch (think Diablo 3 launch). They where on record as saying they couldn't reverse programme it to be offline, until a fan went ahead and showed them how by doing it himself. It ruined the franchise. THE city building game of the last 30 years pretty much buried by the mess that the 2013 version released in.

    Amazon withdrew the digital version from their site because of the negative feedback.

    There where issues with the engine too. Among a number of issues, it caused massive traffic jams. ALL traffic took the shortest route, causing everythign to come to a standstill.

    It was just a terrible release.

    OT but what's it like these days do you know? I stayed clear of it because of the issues but I get a hankering to try it from time to time. I've tried to play Skylines but that's just too much hard work.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,470 ✭✭✭SolvableKnave


    OT but what's it like these days do you know? I stayed clear of it because of the issues but I get a hankering to try it from time to time. I've tried to play Skylines but that's just too much hard work.

    Honestly haven't touched it in years. Last I played it was ok, got some enjoyment out of it, but not enough to entice me back.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 709 ✭✭✭goon_magee


    Sim City launched and it was an online only title. A SP city building game (with MP options yes) was online only. The largest city you could build was a medium. Variety of roads to be built was limited. Servers didn't work on launch (think Diablo 3 launch). They where on record as saying they couldn't reverse programme it to be offline, until a fan went ahead and showed them how by doing it himself. It ruined the franchise. THE city building game of the last 30 years pretty much buried by the mess that the 2013 version released in.

    Amazon withdrew the digital version from their site because of the negative feedback.

    There where issues with the engine too. Among a number of issues, it caused massive traffic jams. ALL traffic took the shortest route, causing everythign to come to a standstill.

    It was just a terrible release.

    Yeah, fair point. Has the IP been abandoned though? That's more what I was getting at, as I'm differentiating between EA making a **** show out of a franchise and flat out walking away from it Dead Space style.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,470 ✭✭✭SolvableKnave


    goon_magee wrote: »
    Yeah, fair point. Has the IP been abandoned though? That's more what I was getting at, as I'm differentiating between EA making a **** show out of a franchise and flat out walking away from it Dead Space style.

    I'm not sure, though as said, I haven't played it in years, so other than a futuristic DLC they released a year after launch, I'm unsure what support they've continued with.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,454 ✭✭✭EoinMcLovin


    Cataclysm out today, even though I doubt anybody is still playing the game


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,683 ✭✭✭Muppet Man


    I don’t suppose they fixed the loot system - i.e. total lack of legendaries for most players (although I do have a storm character maxed out at 788)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,005 ✭✭✭OptimusTractor


    Can't believe it's already May, the year is flying by.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 709 ✭✭✭goon_magee


    Definitely too little too late.

    I had a lot of fun with Anthem and still swear by the core gameplay, but if they aren't going to shut this down entirely, then they should have just held this back and focused on whatever complete overhaul of the game (if any) they are working on in the background.

    When your much hyped endgame activity turns out to be little more than what would qualify for a seasonal event in other games in the genre, it leaves quite a bad taste in the mouth.

    The fact that this was almost stealth released says it all really. It needed to drop alongside a far more substantial update, or at least alongside a good chunky vidoc showing whats in the pipeline. This more just stinks of a bone they are throwing to the few hundred people who still play this, before quietly shutting the game down.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,939 ✭✭✭nix


    goon_magee wrote: »
    they should have just held this back and focused on whatever complete overhaul of the game (if any) they are working on in the background.


    haha you mean Anthem 2?

    :pac::pac::pac:


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,447 ✭✭✭Calhoun


    goon_magee wrote: »
    Definitely too little too late.

    I had a lot of fun with Anthem and still swear by the core gameplay, but if they aren't going to shut this down entirely, then they should have just held this back and focused on whatever complete overhaul of the game (if any) they are working on in the background.

    When your much hyped endgame activity turns out to be little more than what would qualify for a seasonal event in other games in the genre, it leaves quite a bad taste in the mouth.

    The fact that this was almost stealth released says it all really. It needed to drop alongside a far more substantial update, or at least alongside a good chunky vidoc showing whats in the pipeline. This more just stinks of a bone they are throwing to the few hundred people who still play this, before quietly shutting the game down.

    It might not be dropped completely, look at SWTOR which Bioware austin also manage. They turned that around quite a bit and got something out of it.

    They might try the same with this.

    They could also just abandon it, depends on if they see the profit i suppose.


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators, Entertainment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 18,500 CMod ✭✭✭✭Nody


    goon_magee wrote: »
    Definitely too little too late.

    I had a lot of fun with Anthem and still swear by the core gameplay, but if they aren't going to shut this down entirely, then they should have just held this back and focused on whatever complete overhaul of the game (if any) they are working on in the background.

    When your much hyped endgame activity turns out to be little more than what would qualify for a seasonal event in other games in the genre, it leaves quite a bad taste in the mouth.

    The fact that this was almost stealth released says it all really. It needed to drop alongside a far more substantial update, or at least alongside a good chunky vidoc showing whats in the pipeline. This more just stinks of a bone they are throwing to the few hundred people who still play this, before quietly shutting the game down.
    Based on their latest quarterly call this is the likely route they are taking; they mentioned Anthem 3 times during the call and only to use as an example on how digital game download is increasing and is exactly how Mass Effect Andromeda got treated after the promise of "continued support" etc. like Anthem got as well.

    YongYea made a video on it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 35,522 ✭✭✭✭Penn


    goon_magee wrote: »
    Definitely too little too late.

    I had a lot of fun with Anthem and still swear by the core gameplay, but if they aren't going to shut this down entirely, then they should have just held this back and focused on whatever complete overhaul of the game (if any) they are working on in the background.

    When your much hyped endgame activity turns out to be little more than what would qualify for a seasonal event in other games in the genre, it leaves quite a bad taste in the mouth.

    The fact that this was almost stealth released says it all really. It needed to drop alongside a far more substantial update, or at least alongside a good chunky vidoc showing whats in the pipeline. This more just stinks of a bone they are throwing to the few hundred people who still play this, before quietly shutting the game down.

    Not overly familiar with this, but could it be that they had to release this DLC as part of a season pass people already paid for or something like that? So they had to release it rather than hold it back, cause issues with pre-paid DLC purchases and tarnished the Anthem name even further?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,683 ✭✭✭Muppet Man


    Well, they definitely fixed the loot. And made the shield/armour levels of enemies easier to take down - especially noticeable in Strongholds. And there is definitely more people playing again. For how long -who knows.

    Buddy of mine got 4 Legendaries and 10 masterworks from ONE Tyrant Mine stronghold on GrandMaster 2 level. And he never used to get any legendaries at all previous to that. In fact he ditched the game because he wasnt getting any at all despite his constant stronghold grind.

    He and I are now averaging at least one legendary now per GM2 stronghold. Sometimes two. GM1 strongholds also throws them up from time to time

    The strongholds themselves are easier as well. GM2 is now what GM1 was (or maybe easier). A good team can get through in 20 -25 mins. And GM3 is just a little harder than the old GM2. If that makes any sense. To contextulaise, a buddy of mine and I did a Tyrant Mine on GM3 last night in one hour, and we only had one other player for about 20 minutes (to the first chest). So we two manned the last two chests. With a full team of capable players, then the Tyrant Mine stronghold on GM3 would take about 30 - 40 minutes.

    Havent played the cataclysm content yet. Still some weird ass glitches in there though.

    Muppet Man.


  • Moderators, Computer Games Moderators Posts: 23,405 Mod ✭✭✭✭Kiith


    Have they improved the loading and the amount of screens you had to load through just to get into the actual game? That's what killed it for me, as the gameplay was very enjoyable, but having to sit through 2-3 minutes of slow walking followed by 2-3 minutes of loading screens just to do one mission was crazy.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,683 ✭✭✭Muppet Man


    Kiith wrote: »
    Have they improved the loading and the amount of screens you had to load through just to get into the actual game? That's what killed it for me, as the gameplay was very enjoyable, but having to sit through 2-3 minutes of slow walking followed by 2-3 minutes of loading screens just to do one mission was crazy.

    Pretty much, you dont need to walk around Fort Tarsis anymore, unless there is a specific objective as part of the story line to go talk to someone. But basically when you start the game you are loaded into Fort Tarsis and you can immediately ignore everything by just pressing / holding "Y" (xbox). This then allows you to select from a range of game modes like stronghold, freeplay, cataclysm etc. You can also go to the forge from this screen and select/change/modify your javelin...

    Its definitely a pain in a hoop walking around the fort, but that aint needed anymore. For example, last night we played 4 or 5 strongholds and never went near the fort. Just rattled them off one after another. The only delay now is just waiting for the stronghold to load (in technical terms, spinning up a server to host the game)

    Muppet Man


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 709 ✭✭✭goon_magee


    Definitely some decent quality of life improvements.

    Loot drop rates have also improved greatly..but....what's the point in having great drop rates if the gear is absolute ****. Even with the introduction of the cataclysm, there is no fun gear to chase and loot variety still sucks which is the bigger problem. If anything increasing drop rates has exposed even further how f*cking shallow the loot pool is.

    Cataclysm is a load of bollocks as well. A 15 minute, shallow, easy, bland encounter with a n awful boss that's supposed to represent pinnacle content? No thanks, if I want to grind for a stupid seasonal currency to hand in to lifeless vendors I'll just boot Destiny 2 back up, at least there the rewards feel worthwhile and the content is actually fun to blast through.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 30 juanpablo1983


    Yeah loaded it back up the past week and really enjoying it. Only problem I have is not having any 'friends' that actually play it on my account. If anyone here wants to team up. I would be all for it.


  • Moderators, Computer Games Moderators Posts: 23,405 Mod ✭✭✭✭Kiith


    And have the added any cosmetics to the loot now? Unless i'm mistaken, there were zero different Javelin cosmetic gear outside of the cash shop.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,683 ✭✭✭Muppet Man


    Yeah loaded it back up the past week and really enjoying it. Only problem I have is not having any 'friends' that actually play it on my account. If anyone here wants to team up. I would be all for it.

    XBOX? my GT is Sharperkiller - add me! I'm on most nights. I usually play with a buddy from the US. Youre welcome to join.
    Kiith wrote: »
    And have the added any cosmetics to the loot now? Unless i'm mistaken, there were zero different Javelin cosmetic gear outside of the cash shop.
    Honestly, I'm not big on customizations... so couldnt say for sure.


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  • The lead producer now's leaves Bioware....

    Reading back through this thread is quite the giggle

    Anthem, the gift that keeps on giving :P


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,615 ✭✭✭Revoker88


    This has been added to the base Origin Access


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,224 ✭✭✭Grumpypants


    I'm around Rank 20 now and I like it. It really could have had some better mission design but it's far from the hot garbage it was made out to be. At the same time it's far from the game it should be.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,604 ✭✭✭DeSelby83


    It's in the EA Access vault now too so might get an increase in player count, in the short term at least


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,683 ✭✭✭Muppet Man


    I have my storm and colluses maxed out now at 925 power level with all legendaries, and it's a pretty decent game with the most recent updates. Enjoying the latest cataclysm level, trying to get a high score. Some nice new guns and the loot drop rate for legendaries is definitely fixed. I got six in one game last week. Even took a screenshot of it. Play mostly on GM2, I two manned a stronghold yesterday with another 925. Not too much trouble. GM3 strongholds also doable, just slightly slower. If they keep the updates coming it might survive a while longer.

    Muppet man


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,683 ✭✭✭Muppet Man


    New update 1.5 released. There is now a legendary loot chest selling legendary weapons and gear at level 80 for your javelin. Guaranteed. Cost is 5000 minor crystals.

    However If like me you had minor crystals banked from doing cataclysms and waiting to cash them in - then don’t get your hopes up too far ... all my minor crystals - 100000 of them - are gone.

    Anyone know Where I can Send a “Fu(k you EA” email to?

    :(

    Muppet man


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,615 ✭✭✭Revoker88


    Muppet Man wrote: »
    New update 1.5 released. There is now a legendary loot chest selling legendary weapons and gear at level 80 for your javelin. Guaranteed. Cost is 5000 minor crystals.

    However If like me you had minor crystals banked from doing cataclysms and waiting to cash them in - then don’t get your hopes up too far ... all my minor crystals - 100000 of them - are gone.

    Anyone know Where I can Send a “Fu(k you EA” email to?

    :(

    Muppet man

    So the only way to get minor crystals is from the store?

    Havent played in a good while so unsure.

    Thought i read somewhere the chests could only be bought with shards that had to be earned in game.

    Would be a terrible decision to strip players of earned currency before launching the chest. I mean there was barely anyome playing the last time i logged on,stuff like that will finally kill it off i reckon.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,346 ✭✭✭✭J. Marston


    That is grim. As mentioned no-one is playing so there will be little to no outrage.

    It's just one last move to drain the whales they have left.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 35,522 ✭✭✭✭Penn


    Was sure this thread was bumped because of the newest Jimquisition video; a look back at Anthem and the problems around it



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,683 ✭✭✭Muppet Man


    EoinHef wrote: »
    So the only way to get minor crystals is from the store?

    Havent played in a good while so unsure.

    Thought i read somewhere the chests could only be bought with shards that had to be earned in game.

    Would be a terrible decision to strip players of earned currency before launching the chest. I mean there was barely anyome playing the last time i logged on,stuff like that will finally kill it off i reckon.

    Sorry - you earn Minor Crystals like before from the current seasonal event and spend them at the seasonal store in the castle in the various chests that are available. So the Echoes of Reality cataclysm event is closed and a new event has been created in release 1.5.0 called "Season of the Skulls".

    Any crystals you had farmed and stored from the Echoes of Reality cataclysm are basically wiped clean. So my hours of grinding to earn crystals to spend on things that might be worthwhile in future updates are basically gone.

    Apparently, people were warned about this on Twitter (which of course I dont use/read) and also on the EA community cortex, whatever the fu(k that is. First time I've heard of it anyway.

    Ah, honestly, I'd say I'm done with the game. Its hardly worth grinding for stuff you want to buy in future releases if those future releases are going to wipe your efforts.

    Muppet Man.


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