Off-Topic Thread V3.0

BloodBath

Google have the funds and server infrastructure to make it work. They obviously don't see it as worth the investment.

Uptake must have been poor and I hope it stays that way. Last thing we want is these big corps getting more of a stranglehold on the gaming industry.

It's not good for developers or gamers.

wotzgoingon

Intel's 10nm Biglittle CPU is spotted also with Xe graphics. Their integrated graphics are catching up to AMD's APU's.

https://hexus.net/tech/news/cpu/147365-intel-alder-lake-mobile-cpu-14-cores-spotted/?fbclid=IwAR2TIaVTUiA8kxyC0PAieHatFKP_0yPJwO7t8IJG9ZsIaX27reSY3_qvIeA

MidlanderMan

wotzgoingon wrote: »

Intel's 10nm Biglittle CPU is spotted also with Xe graphics. Their integrated graphics are catching up to AMD's APU's.

https://hexus.net/tech/news/cpu/147365-intel-alder-lake-mobile-cpu-14-cores-spotted/?fbclid=IwAR2TIaVTUiA8kxyC0PAieHatFKP_0yPJwO7t8IJG9ZsIaX27reSY3_qvIeA

AMD still haven't put Navi on their APUs. They're using several year old Vega.

Once they feel threatened there'll be zen 3/4 Navi APUs that intel won't be able to touch.

AlmightyCushion

wotzgoingon wrote: »

Intel's 10nm Biglittle CPU is spotted also with Xe graphics. Their integrated graphics are catching up to AMD's APU's.

https://hexus.net/tech/news/cpu/147365-intel-alder-lake-mobile-cpu-14-cores-spotted/?fbclid=IwAR2TIaVTUiA8kxyC0PAieHatFKP_0yPJwO7t8IJG9ZsIaX27reSY3_qvIeA

Does the big little approach even make much sense on desktops? Obviously on laptops it will increase battery life but on desktops that isn't much benefit.

wotzgoingon

AlmightyCushion wrote: »

Does the big little approach even make much sense on desktops? Obviously on laptops it will increase battery life but on desktops that isn't much benefit.

I am thinking the same. I'm not sure if it is even good for laptops as I know phones use to use the same Biglittle but afaik phone manufacturers have since stopped using such a architecture.

You can save battery power on laptops with current CPU's just have a low Hz single core enabled in firmware and will achieve the same low power setup.

ED E

Serephucus wrote: »

At least you didn't have to go replacing the board.

What PSU do you have again? Cause there's an ST30SF sitting in mine that I'm now thinking I might check the next time I'm back there.

The very same. New one is the v2 version.

Luck100

wotzgoingon wrote: »

I am thinking the same. I'm not sure if it is even good for laptops as I know phones use to use the same Biglittle but afaik phone manufacturers have since stopped using such a architecture.

You can save battery power on laptops with current CPU's just have a low Hz single core enabled in firmware and will achieve the same low power setup.

For desktops, I was assuming it's more to buy some thermal headroom for the big cores. The idea would be that the threads executing on the small cores are lower power and don't heat up the die as much as (possibly fewer) big cores executing the same threads. Rocket Lake seems to be thermally limited (they dropped to 8 cores from 10 on the previous generation), so heat seems to be the main barrier to more cores for Intel.

Cuddlesworth

BloodBath wrote: »

Google have the funds and server infrastructure to make it work. They obviously don't see it as worth the investment.

They canned their "development" team, where they created out of scratch and expected brand new teams, with brand new employees, in a brand new environment to make triple AAA games in under 3 years for their platform.

Googles recent history is to quite literally drop anything that isn't a immediate and roaring success. A long term investment like a game studio was never going to happen. So much so, that I really try to tell people to not buy into any google eco system.

Xenoronin

wotzgoingon wrote: »

I am thinking the same. I'm not sure if it is even good for laptops as I know phones use to use the same Biglittle but afaik phone manufacturers have since stopped using such a architecture.

You can save battery power on laptops with current CPU's just have a low Hz single core enabled in firmware and will achieve the same low power setup.

Phones continue to use the bigLITTLE architecture, and even use biggererBigLITTLE. It's just not advertised as heavily anymore. See qualcomm's latest processor: https://www.anandtech.com/show/16432/qualcomm-announces-snapdragon-870-an-865

ED E

AlmightyCushion wrote: »

Does the big little approach even make much sense on desktops? Obviously on laptops it will increase battery life but on desktops that isn't much benefit.

It really doesnt matter, long term Intel is in BIG trouble. ARM created pandoras box and Apple opened it. RISC is coming for them like a tonne of bricks.

BloodBath

Luck100 wrote: »

For desktops, I was assuming it's more to buy some thermal headroom for the big cores. The idea would be that the threads executing on the small cores are lower power and don't heat up the die as much as (possibly fewer) big cores executing the same threads. Rocket Lake seems to be thermally limited (they dropped to 8 cores from 10 on the previous generation), so heat seems to be the main barrier to more cores for Intel.

Of course they cut cores. It's still 14nm and the 8 core uses 250w. More than AMD's 16 core. Intel are a joke.

I don't know how their share value is holding. They are in a really bad way atm.

wotzgoingon

This is mad. Someone built a fully functioning 8 bit 4 core CPU in Minecraft.

https://fb.watch/3qHQPqKD8a/

farna_boy

Just found some old graphics cards during a clean up that I pretty much had forgotten about a HD5770 and a HD 7970 Vapor X.

Any idea what I should/could do with them?

I wouldn't mind selling them but the thought of using adverts to sell each one individually is giving me shudders.

wotzgoingon

You wouldn't get much for them anyway, they're years old. That's my personal opinion anyway. I haven't looked up prices.

AlmightyCushion

farna_boy wrote: »

Just found some old graphics cards during a clean up that I pretty much had forgotten about a HD5770 and a HD 7970 Vapor X.

Any idea what I should/could do with them?

I wouldn't mind selling them but the thought of using adverts to sell each one individually is giving me shudders.

They're probably not worth much. €20 for the 5770, €40 for the 7970. You could put them in an old machine and use it for emulators. Other than that, keep one for a backup.

savemejebus

CEX?

AlmightyCushion

savemejebus wrote: »

CEX?

€10 cash, €15 credit for the 5770 1GB. €4 cash or €6 credit for the 512MB version. €30 cash or €42 credit for the 7970. Poor enough money buy given their is no messing about with Cex it's not bad.

TitianGerm

farna_boy wrote: »

Just found some old graphics cards during a clean up that I pretty much had forgotten about a HD5770 and a HD 7970 Vapor X.

Any idea what I should/could do with them?

I wouldn't mind selling them but the thought of using adverts to sell each one individually is giving me shudders.

Put them in a crap old PC and sell them on Adverts for €1000 a piece. With all of the overpriced junk over there yours won't be out of place :pac:

AlmightyCushion

TitianGerm wrote: »

Put them in a crap old PC and sell them on Adverts for €1000 a piece. With all of the overpriced junk over there yours won't be out of place :pac:

Core 2 Duo and a 5770 = High end gaming PC.

Cuddlesworth

wotzgoingon wrote: »

You wouldn't get much for them anyway, they're years old. That's my personal opinion anyway. I haven't looked up prices.

With nearly every card online being more then 800 quid, you might want to check out the second hand market. My Vega 56 that I paid sub 300 for a good while back are going for more in auctions on ebay.

Jacovs

My 7970 has served me well the last 5+ years. If id any use for another id take it lol.

Joeface

5770 ..Donate to something -recycling

The HD7970 is that a 3GB card , its not terrible by any means . More PSU needed than a 1050 ti but is probably still a little bit better than that . Still equal or better than what came after it from AMD ( R9 380x) . It is close on specs to that .
AMD driver support is still good for those cards.

Adverts that one , ask 70€ (adverts tax included ) I could see someone paying maybe paying 55€ for it . I would if building out of second hand parts . but what do I know .

savemejebus

Would 7970 be worth throwing in with some more spare bits for mining purposes?

Cuddlesworth

savemejebus wrote: »

Would 7970 be worth throwing in with some more spare bits for mining purposes?

Don't think its anywhere near efficient enough.

Homelander

The 7970 is still a surprisingly "OK" card for the age. It's basically a 280X, which is around GTX1050Ti levels. Obviously it'll guzzle a lot more power but as a back-up or temporary card, it's still incredibly solid for a card that's what, 9 years old?

Considering it will still run most new games at 1080p at 60fps at lower settings (which, these days, still looks reasonable enough)

The 5770, less so. There's not really any reason for that one apart from literally being stuck for a display card on short-notice.

Squall

Currently running on a HD 7950. Has served me well since 2013!

Was wondering what to do with mine as well. Might chance adverts and see what could be got for it

ShadowHearth

Lads, I need a bit of help.

My laptop is power throttling at 0.8ghz. Changing different power modes does nothing. If I plug out charger, then plug it in back, it comes back normal, but after starting a game it locks again to 0.8ghz. Laptop is still charging though.

I googled a bit and it most likely power brick is fecked? It's pcspecialist laptop, getting replacement from them, due to brevity might be a complete **** show. So have no idea what to do.

Any alternative ideas? Maybe not power brick?

Skerries

have you checked for dust build up in the laptop or if the fans are working?
could be thermal paste issue, either not enough or dried out

ShadowHearth

Temperatures not climbing though? They are low. There are a bit of dust in fans, but nothing major, it worked perfectly fine up until today, when I turned it on.

ShadowHearth

Skerries wrote: »

have you checked for dust build up in the laptop or if the fans are working?
could be thermal paste issue, either not enough or dried out

Okay, so after you said that, i got can of air and tried to blow fans out a bit ( impossible to open these unless you really good with laptops, I tried). Turned it on again in gaming mode ( I usually have it custom mode with 98% power limit to turn off boost mode and keep temperatures down ) amd the fecling thing is fine now. Temperatures going to its normal self, fans working, no more lock at 0.8ghz... I refuse to believe my ****ty dusting method fixed it... I guess power brick is fine so?