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Kevin Spacey...WTF?!

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    #32
    Wheeliebin30
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,593 ✭✭✭Wheeliebin30


    In a world of trial by social media.

    I have to look at it from his point of view.

    People are quick to ruin your live by believing anything they read on the internet.

    Dangerous times.


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    #33
    _Kaiser_
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    That was strange.

    I love him as Frank Underwood, and certainly there's a few points well made about the whole "trial by social media" era we're in... But releasing a video in character now - presumably as a response to the allegations and the new charges - is just very, very odd.

    Not sure what the end result he's trying for is. As much as I think most fans missed him from season 6, a TV show does not trump real life crimes (if indeed he is ultimately found guilty and convicted).

    As I said.. strange


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    #34
    Bobtheman
    Registered Users Posts: 2,644 ✭✭✭Bobtheman


    Was Kevin Spacey a sexual predator? Probably. Did he use his position? Probably. But funnily enough he kept getting hired and hired. What formal complaints emerged over his career? **** all . Not great. Not a great culture.
    So where does he go from here? Not prison. Compensation yes
    But he deserves a chance to move on yes he does.


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    #35
    batgoat
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    Bobtheman wrote: »
    Was Kevin Spacey a sexual predator? Probably. Did he use his position? Probably. But funnily enough he kept getting hired and hired. What formal complaints emerged over his career? **** all . Not great. Not a great culture.
    So where does he go from here? Not prison. Compensation yes
    But he deserves a chance to move on yes he does.
    Do you say that about all sexual predators?


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    #36
    facehugger99
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    I liked it.


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    #37
    Pelvis
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    If it didn't look like he recorded it in his kitchen then I'd say it was intriguing. Instead, I assume he had a few too many and thought it was a cracking idea.


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    #38
    greencap
    Registered Users Posts: 2,102 ✭✭✭greencap


    Beechwoodspark wrote: »
    Dunno if you have actually done any research on what he’s been accused of but it’s multiple people and multiple allegations.

    Just out of curiosity.

    What is the critical number for multiple allegations?

    I mean the number that makes it true.

    discussion/2058195983/russia-threadbanned-users-in-op/p3135

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    #39
    batgoat
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    greencap wrote: »
    Just out of curiosity.

    What is the critical number for multiple allegations?

    I mean the number that makes it true.

    Generally in terms of pursuing convictions it's related to multiple reports with similar details. Eg Cosby had a tendency to drug multiple victims plus all details are not public knowledge. Cases like this tend to only be pursued if significant evidence.


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    #40
    one world order
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    Around 20 people have made allegations about his sexual advances or sexual assault. He is a sick human and unfortunately there will be misguided people trying to defend him because he is a well known actor.


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    #41
    orourkeda1977
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    I hope he slaps claire underwoods bare arse


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    #42
    orourkeda1977
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    one world order wrote: »
    Around 20 people have made allegations about his sexual advances or sexual assault. He is a sick human and unfortunately there will be misguided people trying to defend him because he is a well known actor.

    I wouldnt defend him but neither will I condemn him until he is actually found guilty of wrongdoing


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    #43
    reg114
    Registered Users Posts: 687 ✭✭✭reg114


    Bobtheman wrote: »
    Was Kevin Spacey a sexual predator? Probably. Did he use his position? Probably. But funnily enough he kept getting hired and hired. What formal complaints emerged over his career? **** all . Not great. Not a great culture.
    So where does he go from here? Not prison. Compensation yes
    But he deserves a chance to move on yes he does.

    Spacey has just been charged with federal sexual assault in the state of Nantucket so this video surfacing is no coincidence. I find this video beyond disturbing. Frank Underwood is a loathsome morally repugnant character, so to use him as a vehicle to press home some kind of point about the real truth is perplexing. If anything it demonstrates a misjudged narcissistic defiance. It also could be admissible in the prosecution's case, in that it could be construed as intimidation. :eek:


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    #44
    Billy86
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    Whether he's guilty or innocent, this closes the lid on it - he's definitely a c*nt of the highest order.


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    #45
    TheAnalyst_
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    fergus1001 wrote: »
    as stated he is innocent untill proven guilty

    absolutely sick of trial by social media

    He's a complete sex pest and I've heard first hand accounts of it from 15 years ago.


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    #46
    Pkiernan
    Registered Users Posts: 4,315 ✭✭✭Pkiernan


    But lefties can't be perverts, can they???


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    #47
    peasant
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    reg114 wrote: »
    Frank Underwood is a loathsome morally repugnant character, so to use him as a vehicle to press home some kind of point about the real truth is perplexing.

    It's more than just perplexing...it's creepy.

    I think Spacey has lost it. He lives in his own hype (as Frank Underwood) believing that this can somehow save him...all the while overlooking that Frank Underwood is one of the most immoral fictional characters ever created, certainly not the type of person you'd want to speak up for you in court (real or social media)

    and btw..the acting certainly was sub par in this clip


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    #48
    greencap
    Registered Users Posts: 2,102 ✭✭✭greencap


    Pkiernan wrote: »
    But lefties can't be perverts, can they???

    Bit of a stretch to make one individuals alleged noncery into a political win.

    discussion/2058195983/russia-threadbanned-users-in-op/p3135

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    #49
    pc7
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    Is it not just some outtake for the show? Did he release it himself? If so well weird.


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    #50
    batgoat
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    pc7 wrote: »
    Is it not just some outtake for the show? Did he release it himself? If so well weird.

    Released it himself...


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    #51
    Beechwoodspark
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    greencap wrote: »
    Just out of curiosity.

    What is the critical number for multiple allegations?

    I mean the number that makes it true.

    Regarding any allegations I would say let justice take its course.

    As for his reputation in Hollywood it appears to be ruined.


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    #52
    greencap
    Registered Users Posts: 2,102 ✭✭✭greencap


    Beechwoodspark wrote: »
    Regarding any allegations I would say let justice take its course.

    As for his reputation in Hollywood it appears to be ruined.

    So 5 is it?



    (ibf any se7en jokes)

    discussion/2058195983/russia-threadbanned-users-in-op/p3135

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    #53
    paleoperson
    Registered Users Posts: 3,522 ✭✭✭paleoperson


    _Kaiser_ wrote: »
    That was strange.

    I love him as Frank Underwood, and certainly there's a few points well made about the whole "trial by social media" era we're in... But releasing a video in character now - presumably as a response to the allegations and the new charges - is just very, very odd.

    Not sure what the end result he's trying for is. As much as I think most fans missed him from season 6, a TV show does not trump real life crimes (if indeed he is ultimately found guilty and convicted).

    As I said.. strange

    I feel like he thinks he is one of the calculating, cunning characters he plays. I believe it's highly inappropriate though and is unlikely to help him. Drop the accent and the character, modify the dialogue, drop the "doing something else" and release it after christmas.


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    #54
    MarkHenderson
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    Enjoy the showers Frank.


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    #55
    squawker
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    Trial by social media, what a world it's become


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    #56
    HappyAsLarE
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    The man is guilty of randy-ness. Not the worst crime.


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    #57
    DS86DS
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    He does a good Al Pacino impression.

    https://youtu.be/x4n1bORDkz0


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    #58
    Beechwoodspark
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    He’s a bit of a degenerate ain’t he


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    #59
    Venom
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    Beechwoodspark wrote: »
    Regarding any allegations I would say let justice take its course.

    As for his reputation in Hollywood it appears to be ruined.


    Roman Polanski was convicted of worse and it didn't hurt his reputation with Hollyweird none.


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    #60
    Under His Eye
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    Venom wrote: »
    Roman Polanski was convicted of worse and it didn't hurt his reputation with Hollyweird none.
    Polanski has been kicked out of the Academy.


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    #61
    AllForIt
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    The youtube views on this are off the scale. Nearly 1 million already. 30K thumbs up 14K thumbs down. Surely will be one of the most watched non-music video youtube vids ever.


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