Dublin Marathon 2019 tickets selling fast

nevan

It’s kind of ridiculous to be posting this a month after the 2018 marathon but tickets for 2019 look like they will sell out very early this year. Sales are over 16,000 (of 20,000) and the organizers say they will all be gone by Christmas. They’re at the higher price of €90 already.

Quote from Twitter:

KBC Dublin Marathon
@dublinmarathon
Nov 27
Registration for the 2019 #KBCDublinMarathon only opened on the 1st Nov & we’ve already sold 16,000 entries! We’re down now to the final 4,000 so if you’re thinking about signing up then don’t leave it too late .. it will sell out before Christmas

The Black Oil

Down to 2,000 places left now...

Irishder

waiting on a KBC discount code. Hope its not sold out before i get it!!

shotgunmcos

In! But, Fee + that name/time tag thing = €111 :eek: Wow been a few years since I've entered any marathon but that's a fair hike since

corcaigh07

Irishder wrote: »

waiting on a KBC discount code. Hope its not sold out before i get it!!

If you want to enter, do it now!

Peterx

Or chance getting one of returned ones next Summer

Djoucer

In myself.

I’d say the rush is on now once it reached less than 2,000

Irishder

Just onto KBC. They said that once they confirm that i am a customer they have a place regardless if it is sold out prior to them issuing me with a code.

I'd just feel better if i got a code prior to it selling out

Van.Bosch

Irishder wrote: »

Just onto KBC. They said that once they confirm that i am a customer they have a place regardless if it is sold out prior to them issuing me with a code.

I'd just feel better if i got a code prior to it selling out

The discount is substantial (50 instead of 93) but is it worth it if it sells out any KBC don’t come through?

Irishder

I know. Its my first marathon as well. I suppose i have it in writing they they will give me a place once they confirm that i am a customer (Why it takes a week is beyond me).

wiggy123

quick question folks--does any of the fee go to charity! thought of this-re 20000 x €70 average = €1.4 million give or take..where does the money all go?

The Black Oil

Wonder if this will impact the 2019 novices thread. Bound to be some people on boards, but may not even know of this forum. Suppose they can follow the boards or HHN1 plans and find another Autumn marathon.

BeepBeep67

wiggy123 wrote: »

quick question folks--does any of the fee go to charity! thought of this-re 20000 x €70 average = €1.4 million give or take..where does the money all go?

Just out of interest, why should it be important if some of the fee goes to charity

RayCun

wiggy123 wrote: »

where does the money all go?

10 WATER STATIONS, USING 140,000 BOTTLES OF CELTIC PURE WATER
4 LUCOZADE STATIONS USING 43,000 BOTTLES OF 380ML LUCOZADE
2 HIGH5 STATIONS USING 21,000 GELS
OVER 1000 VOLUNTEERS ON DUTY ON RACE DAY
372 TOILETS USED
2,890 BARRIERS USED
1842 TRAFFIC CONES USED

over 50,000 euro in prizes, I've no idea how much more in time bonuses

and that's just scratching the surface

BeepBeep67

RayCun wrote: »

10 WATER STATIONS, USING 140,000 BOTTLES OF CELTIC PURE WATER
4 LUCOZADE STATIONS USING 43,000 BOTTLES OF 380ML LUCOZADE
2 HIGH5 STATIONS USING 21,000 GELS
OVER 1000 VOLUNTEERS ON DUTY ON RACE DAY
372 TOILETS USED
2,890 BARRIERS USED
1842 TRAFFIC CONES USED

over 50,000 euro in prizes, I've no idea how much more in time bonuses

and that's just scratching the surface

Gardai
RDS hire
Medical Services
Timing
Entertainment
Generator hire
Marquees

20k Medals, tops, bags, numbers with chips

El CabaIIo

wiggy123 wrote: »

quick question folks--does any of the fee go to charity! thought of this-re 20000 x €70 average = €1.4 million give or take..where does the money all go?

I heard a couple of years ago that closing down the roads for the race n Dublin costs in the region of 500k in total.

Murph_D

wiggy123 wrote: »

quick question folks--does any of the fee go to charity! thought of this-re 20000 x €70 average = €1.4 million give or take..where does the money all go?

A few more...

Engineers to certify that all temporary structures (gantries etc.)are safe
Post event cleanup
Administration of entry signup
Data storage, data security
Pacers: gear, dinner, accommodation, stipen, one drink
Course measurement and recertification if any changes

Buzwaldo

wiggy123 wrote: »

quick question folks--does any of the fee go to charity! thought of this-re 20000 x €70 average = €1.4 million give or take..where does the money all go?

This is a fair question and hasn’t been answered yet. Does any portion go to charity?
Not saying whether any should or not, just wondering. Did it myself this year and really enjoyed it.
I come from cycling background, and we have no event as big as DCM, but most mass participation cycling events here have excess fees over costs going to charity. Ring of Kerry, which gets a bit of bad press lately, has 10 benefitting charities. A smaller event (700 odd participants, cost 25-35 euro) which my club runs has all excess after costs distributed to local charity (about 50% goes on costs).
The big Ironman events are obviously for profit.
Just wondering where does DCM fit, are surpluses retained and ploughed back in? I know over the years it would have struggled to cover itself, and always needed sponsorship, but seems in rude health lately.
All the people at water stops etc are volunteers I believe? Suggests charitable benefit to me but I may be wrong.
Anyway it’s a great event which I really enjoyed, and I know there are massive costs and need for some full time professional staff. Not trying to be negative in any way, just curious, as wiggy123 was.

El CabaIIo

Buzwaldo wrote: »

This is a fair question and hasn’t been answered yet. Does any portion go to charity?
Not saying whether any should or not, just wondering. Did it myself this year and really enjoyed it.
I come from cycling background, and we have no event as big as DCM, but most mass participation cycling events here have excess fees over costs going to charity. Ring of Kerry, which gets a bit of bad press lately, has 10 benefitting charities. A smaller event (700 odd participants, cost 25-35 euro) which my club runs has all excess after costs distributed to local charity (about 50% goes on costs).
The big Ironman events are obviously for profit.
Just wondering where does DCM fit, are surpluses retained and ploughed back in? I know over the years it would have struggled to cover itself, and always needed sponsorship, but seems in rude health lately.
All the people at water stops etc are volunteers I believe? Suggests charitable benefit to me but I may be wrong.
Anyway it’s a great event which I really enjoyed, and I know there are massive costs and need for some full time professional staff. Not trying to be negative in any way, just curious, as wiggy123 was.

The Dublin marathon donates money to the clubs who have volunteers, they give so much per volunteer. Athletics Ireland also make money out of it from the entry into the national championship. Money is also ploughed into the marathon mission to help developing athletes sustain training. The organisation in itself is a non-profit entity so no one makes money out of it, the guys running it are there as volunteers as well.

The charities already benefit from people running the race and fundraising, I don't know if the DCM directly donates to outside charities but I don't think it's a big deal if not, they are donating money into clubs and athletics in the country which imo is exactly where they money should be going. Athletics clubs in general are pretty much charitable organisations.

Testosterscone

DCM is not a charity organization. That being said it’s admin and wage costs are a lot less than majority of charities that money is raised for.

I do believe however that all discarded clothing at start is donated to charities as well as the money pumped back into time bonuses and club volunteer payments and marathon mission so a lot of money is DIRECTLY pumped back into sport without the dilution if beaucracy

Buzwaldo

The Dublin marathon donates money to the clubs who have volunteers, they give so much per volunteer. Athletics Ireland also make money out of it from the entry into the national championship. Money is also ploughed into the marathon mission to help developing athletes sustain training. The organisation in itself is a non-profit entity so no one makes money out of it, the guys running it are there as volunteers as well.

The charities already benefit from people running the race and fundraising, I don't know if the DCM directly donates to outside charities but I don't think it's a big deal if not, they are donating money into clubs and athletics in the country which imo is exactly where they money should be going. Athletics clubs in general are pretty much charitable organisations.[/quote]

Kinda figured it worked something like this, but wasn’t sure.
It’s a great Organisation and one would be kinda proud of our City marathon and the atmosphere on the day.

Buzwaldo

[/quote] The Dublin marathon donates money to the clubs who have volunteers, they give so much per volunteer. Athletics Ireland also make money out of it from the entry into the national championship. Money is also ploughed into the marathon mission to help developing athletes sustain training. The organisation in itself is a non-profit entity so no one makes money out of it, the guys running it are there as volunteers as well.

The charities already benefit from people running the race and fundraising, I don't know if the DCM directly donates to outside charities but I don't think it's a big deal if not, they are donating money into clubs and athletics in the country which imo is exactly where they money should be going. Athletics clubs in general are pretty much charitable organisations.[/quote]

Kinda figured it worked something like this, but wasn’t sure.
It’s a great Organisation and one would be kinda proud of our City marathon and the atmosphere on the day.

Murph_D

As well as clubs, DCM also draws volunteers from parkrun, mostly to work on bag drop I believe, and donates a fairly decent amount per volunteer to parkrun in return.

wiggy123

I was just asking the question...

ultrapercy

wiggy123 wrote: »

I was just asking the question...

Yes and you got an answer which is the whole point of questions.

Testosterscone

wiggy123 wrote: »

I was just asking the question...

I think the charity aspect can get people riled up a little here because there has been many races masquerading as "charity" events over the years despite donating as little as less than 1% per entry fee or worse yet those that say charity event despite simply offering donation cards for people to raise additional funds.

Charity is a huge business in this country and while some good does come from it no doubt the money going directly to projects and actions is a small portion of sums that get raised.

Arsenium

The Black Oil wrote: »

Wonder if this will impact the 2019 novices thread. Bound to be some people on boards, but may not even know of this forum. Suppose they can follow the boards or HHN1 plans and find another Autumn marathon.

Very good point. This will be sold out long before the mentored thread starts up...

RayCun

And I think anyone who has run a marathon has been asked, "What charity are you running it for?", as if the race only exists to facilitate fundraising.

dublin runner

wiggy123 wrote: »

I was just asking the question...

A fair question.

Like any consumer or service item, it is very fair to ask how your money/entry fee is spent.

Unfortunately, there are three types of races in Ireland, hence the ambiguity:
1) Commercial Race (for profit)
2) Charity Race or Club Race (volunteer based)
3) Commercial Race masquerading as Charity Race

Type 3) causes the hostility.

It is always a fair request to ask 'how is my money spent'. I get asked that very question and always welcome it.

I think DCM do a largely good job but some races fall victim to Type 3.

Murph_D

And among charity races, there are some where it’s not clear what the charity (ie organisation with charitable status) is actually using the money for. Research? Administration? Salaries? Travel costs? One of our very high profile ‘charity’ races falls into this category.

Testosterscone

dublin runner wrote: »

3) Commercial Race masquerading as Charity Race

Type 3) causes the hostility.

It is always a fair request to ask 'how is my money spent'. I get asked that very question and always welcome it.

I think DCM do a largely good job but some races fall victim to Type 3.

Came across a prime example of this today.

Specifically say that funds raised go to charity and to be fair last year they did donate 5,500 however there are a number of things they fail to mention

- this figure includes money raised from free entry with 50e sponsor (as well as any extra raised beyond the 50e threshold)

- doesnt include extra revenue from tshirt and virtual run option effectively means you get a medal in the post for not showing up. Funnily enough this medal is provided by a virtual run company run by the race organiser (which is not a charity organisation to the best of my knowledge.

Despite the good PR around the novelty cheque donation the maths on this really don't stack up in favour of the organisers.

skyblue46

Testosterscone wrote: »

Came across a prime example of this today.

Specifically say that funds raised go to charity and to be fair last year they did donate 5,500 however there are a number of things they fail to mention

- this figure includes money raised from free entry with 50e sponsor (as well as any extra raised beyond the 50e threshold)

- doesnt include extra revenue from tshirt and virtual run option effectively means you get a medal in the post for not showing up. Funnily enough this medal is provided by a virtual run company run by the race organiser (which is not a charity organisation to the best of my knowledge.

Despite the good PR around the novelty cheque donation the maths on this really don't stack up in favour of the organisers.

What in the name of God is a virtual run? A donation?

Testosterscone

skyblue46 wrote: »

What in the name of God is a virtual run? A donation?

Send your garmin pic/strava and get a medal. Basically buying a medal for a huge mark up without any of the overheads of the actual racing aspect.

Win win for race organisers. Pretty sure Disney have tapped in to this for a knock down price of 50 dollars :eek:

harr

Many many people run DCM for various causes so a lot of charities nationwide would benefit indirectly from most marathons.
Group of my mates did it and raised 10 grand which was split between a local charity and Crumlin hospital.
I think that is better than DCM having an official charity for the race.
My local Athletic club had 20 volunteers at it so our club definitely benefit from it as well.
I can imagine insurance from such an event is eye watering.

Swashbuckler

skyblue46 wrote:

What in the name of God is a virtual run? A donation?

One of my biggest pet hates in the last year in particular. These are popping up all over the place. Absolute joke.

Murph_D

When you think about it, the charity connection is a bit of a pox on our sport. Not one asks the GAA/rugby/soccer player, when he togs out for the parish/county/province/All-Ireland, ‘who he’s doing it for’. Despite the vast numbers (compared to running) who compete in these sports.

When people ask me who I’m running for, I say no one. When they ask about charity, I tell them I do far to many races/marathons to ask people to donate money, that I wouldn’t have the nerve to impose, and that anyway I prefer to donate privately myself. It usually ends the conversation.

Skid X

Not many left now ...


https://twitter.com/dublinmarathon/status/1071866596753330179

Alorra

Damn FOMO. Done in for another twist.

MY BAD

I reckon when or if I ever go back into the world of marathons. I'll just pick a decent one somewhere in Europe. I don't think I'd commit to signing up for one nearly a year out.

Swashbuckler

Seems like DCM are allowing transfers next year at least.

kerrylad1

I'm in.feck it.Can not believe I have signed up nearly a year in advance.I remember,waiting until my last long run was done,before signing up a few years back.How times have changed.

TRR_the_turd

Swashbuckler wrote: »

Seems like DCM are allowing transfers next year at least.

Where have they said they are allowing transfers? I’ve seen possibility of refunds but have not seen possibility of transfers in print!

Burkie1203

Sold out. That's fairly bonkers

Swashbuckler

TRR_the_turd wrote:

Where have they said they are allowing transfers? I’ve seen possibility of refunds but have not seen possibility of transfers in print!

I'm almost sure I've seen it mentioned on one of the threads on here.

SeeMoreBut

Can't believe it is sold out. I've been training ages for it. I didn't know it was going to sell out. etc etc

Testosterscone

SeeMoreBut wrote: »

Can't believe it is sold out. I've been training ages for it. I didn't know it was going to sell out. etc etc

To be fair probably give those folks a pass that missed the deadline this year

djemba djemba

SeeMoreBut wrote: »

Can't believe it is sold out. I've been training ages for it. I didn't know it was going to sell out. etc etc

I have been fundraising and all

incentsitive

djemba djemba wrote: »

I have been fundraising and all

Registered but don't know if I'll make it, runners are wore out.

Henry42

Damn it. I was literally going to register this morning and got a message that it was sold out. I suppose I'll need to hope someone drops out who I can swap with.

skyblue46

Henry42 wrote: »

Damn it. I was literally going to register this morning and got a message that it was sold out. I suppose I'll need to hope someone drops out who I can swap with.

This must be a wind up? :pac:

Henry42

skyblue46 wrote: »

This must be a wind up? :pac:

Why would it be?