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Zappi charge points

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    #182
    Silent Running
    Registered Users Posts: 2,818 ✭✭✭Silent Running


    unkel wrote: »
    They are tethered only. And come in either 5m or 8m only. I have asked myenergi but they won't make a 15m tethered one for me.

    I think I'd be getting a type 2 socket and bodging it on to the side of the charger. :D


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    #183
    TheChizler
    Registered Users Posts: 9,420 ✭✭✭TheChizler


    unkel wrote: »
    They are tethered only. And come in either 5m or 8m only. I have asked myenergi but they won't make a 15m tethered one for me.
    You can buy reels of the same cable, could you replace it yourself?


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    #184
    unkel
    Registered Users Posts: 64,864 ✭✭✭✭unkel


    I probably could. But I would have to either butcher my own 15m cable or buy a length of 15m cable plus one connector. And that would all add up to silly money. EUR585 for the charger, EUR200 for the cable, then someone to install it...

    It would nearly be cheaper just to charge the car at night rate and let my excess go back to the grid for free.


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    #185
    Mickeroo
    Administrators, Computer Games Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 32,151 Admin ✭✭✭✭✭Mickeroo


    You'd probably void whatever warranty is on the zappi if you did that too I'd imagine.


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    #186
    unkel
    Registered Users Posts: 64,864 ✭✭✭✭unkel


    Mickeroo wrote: »
    You'd probably void whatever warranty is on the zappi if you did that too I'd imagine.

    Possibly. And with the latest spate of issues with the Zappi products, that would be a bad idea.

    If anyone has any other suggestions to smart charge my car with surplus PV, let me know :)


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    #187
    TheChizler
    Registered Users Posts: 9,420 ✭✭✭TheChizler


    Mickeroo wrote: »
    You'd probably void whatever warranty is on the zappi if you did that too I'd imagine.
    Possibly, they're just terminal connectors inside (same as the mains connection) and a screwable grommet at the bottom so no damage would be done.


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    #188
    Mickeroo
    Administrators, Computer Games Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 32,151 Admin ✭✭✭✭✭Mickeroo


    Just got the zappi installed this evening.

    I have no solar PV or anything, should I just have it in eco mode the whole time so it adjust the draw as other appliances come on? I thought I should have it in fast mode as we don't have any renewables at the mo but we turned on the shower to see what would happen and it didn't seem to reduce the draw to the car when the shower kicked in so full draw in the house was 17kw while the shower was going :eek:


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    #189
    unkel
    Registered Users Posts: 64,864 ✭✭✭✭unkel


    Fast mode but only during night rate hours (you can program your Ioniq to only charge during night rate)


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    #190
    Mickeroo
    Administrators, Computer Games Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 32,151 Admin ✭✭✭✭✭Mickeroo


    Yeah I've set the scheduling in the car. The main thing I'm wondering though is does it still reduce current to the car on fast mode say if someone turns on the shower for example or does it only do that in eco/eco+ mode? The manual doesn't seem to clear on this.


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    #191
    denismc
    Registered Users Posts: 1,402 ✭✭✭denismc


    You can set the grid limit on your Zappi to whatever you want but 17kw seems too high .17kw should be enough to trip the main breaker in most houses.
    You can set the grid limit on your Zappi under advanced settings although I would have thought whoever did your install would have done this.
    The grid limit works in all modes.
    You can also set the timer on the Zappi to charge the car overnight.


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    #192
    denismc
    Registered Users Posts: 1,402 ✭✭✭denismc


    Mickeroo wrote: »
    Yeah I've set the scheduling in the car. The main thing I'm wondering though is does it still reduce current to the car on fast mode say if someone turns on the shower for example or does it only do that in eco/eco+ mode? The manual doesn't seem to clear on this.

    Eco and Eco+ are really only useful if you have PV,
    Grid limit controls your maximum load regardless of what mode you are in.


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    #193
    Mickeroo
    Administrators, Computer Games Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 32,151 Admin ✭✭✭✭✭Mickeroo


    Looking at the manual the grid limit is off by default. Install was done by my usual electrician who wouldn't have had any experience of the zappi so probably wasn't aware of the setting.

    He did think it shouldn't have allowed that high of a draw though and was going ringing my energi tomorrow when they open.

    What would be a good number to set as the limit? 12 or so?


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    #194
    denismc
    Registered Users Posts: 1,402 ✭✭✭denismc


    Mickeroo wrote: »
    Looking at the manual the grid limit is off by default. Install was done by my usual electrician who wouldn't have had any experience of the zappi so probably wasn't aware of the setting.

    He did think it shouldn't have allowed that high of a draw though and was going ringing my energi tomorrow when they open.

    What would be a good number to set as the limit? 12 or so?

    Yes 12 is plenty, most houses have a 63 amp main fuse, just check you don't have anything lower.


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    #195
    Mickeroo
    Administrators, Computer Games Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 32,151 Admin ✭✭✭✭✭Mickeroo


    Nice one, thanks for the info.


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    #196
    Mickeroo
    Administrators, Computer Games Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 32,151 Admin ✭✭✭✭✭Mickeroo


    Sorry, one last question. The grid limit setting appears to be in amps rather than KW if I'm not mistaken, so what should I set it to? (main fuse is definitely 63amp). I put it to 40 thinking that should be safe enough, but is a bit lower than it needs to be?


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    #197
    Stealthirl
    Registered Users Posts: 1,589 ✭✭✭Stealthirl


    63Amp's at 230V is just shy of 14.5kVA

    Electricity is supplied at 230V here.
    My zappi has the import limit as kVA and not amps.


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    #198
    Mickeroo
    Administrators, Computer Games Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 32,151 Admin ✭✭✭✭✭Mickeroo


    I'll have to have another look. It's quite annoying, their manual and any info they have online only mentions KW when talking about the grid limit.


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    #199
    denismc
    Registered Users Posts: 1,402 ✭✭✭denismc


    I thought it was kW, I will check mine when I am home.


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    #200
    Mickeroo
    Administrators, Computer Games Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 32,151 Admin ✭✭✭✭✭Mickeroo


    Maybe its lack of knowledge on my part but below is what it shows in grid limit. I put it to the lowest setting since and that stopped the car from preconditioning when I boiled the kettle.

    When I saw the 'A' I assumed it was amps? What number do most people have theirs set to?


    hDsozFgl.jpg


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    #201
    denismc
    Registered Users Posts: 1,402 ✭✭✭denismc


    So here is my settings screen, which shows the grid limit in kW.
    It looks like your device has the latest firmware version and mine is an older version, hence the difference.
    If you are still not sure about this, give Myenergi a ring, they are usually quick to respond.


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    #202
    TheChizler
    Registered Users Posts: 9,420 ✭✭✭TheChizler


    Anyone solve the problem where the rubber cap gets filled with water in the rain? It's causing what seems to be copper corrosion on our one. Thinking of getting a holster so it can be angled so the rain doesn't gather, but I'm wondering would a hole punched in the cap be enough to let the water out, might void the warranty though?

    1tndlg.jpg


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    #203
    gunnerfitzy
    Registered Users Posts: 1,425 ✭✭✭gunnerfitzy


    TheChizler wrote: »
    Anyone solve the problem where the rubber cap gets filled with water in the rain? It's causing what seems to be copper corrosion on our one. Thinking of getting a holster so it can be angled so the rain doesn't gather, but I'm wondering would a hole punched in the cap be enough to let the water out, might void the warranty though?

    1tndlg.jpg

    I had this problem. I contacted myenergi and they stated that they now include a holster with each Zappi ordered to prevent this. They sent me out a holster free of charge. No issues with water ingress now.


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    #204
    Nedved85
    Registered Users Posts: 1,769 ✭✭✭Nedved85


    gunnerfitzy wrote: »
    I had this problem. I contacted myenergi and they stated that they now include a holster with each Zappi ordered to prevent this. They sent me out a holster free of charge. No issues with water ingress now.

    So the holster is waterproof? I didn't install my holster yet. Electrician reckoned the rubber cover would be better


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    #205
    gunnerfitzy
    Registered Users Posts: 1,425 ✭✭✭gunnerfitzy


    Nedved85 wrote: »
    So the holster is waterproof? I didn't install my holster yet. Electrician reckoned the rubber cover would be better

    There is no rubber seal or similar in the holster so I can't see how it is strictly waterproof but it is keeping the rain out much better than the cap. Logically, one would think that the cap would be better than the holster but that is certainly not the case for me.


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    #206
    TheChizler
    Registered Users Posts: 9,420 ✭✭✭TheChizler


    gunnerfitzy wrote: »
    I had this problem. I contacted myenergi and they stated that they now include a holster with each Zappi ordered to prevent this. They sent me out a holster free of charge. No issues with water ingress now.
    Cheers I'll do exactly that! I got it from Electric Autos but I'll contact myenergi first. The problem is when the plug hangs down the cap acts like a container, even a trickle of water would fill it quickly. The holster would ensure it's always upright so water can't get in.


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    #207
    gunnerfitzy
    Registered Users Posts: 1,425 ✭✭✭gunnerfitzy


    TheChizler wrote: »
    Cheers I'll do exactly that! I got it from Electric Autos but I'll contact myenergi first. The problem is when the plug hangs down the cap acts like a container, even a trickle of water would fill it quickly. The holster would ensure it's always upright so water can't get in.

    I also bought mine from Phil also but I contacted myenergi directly. No issues and dealt with quickly.


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    #208
    daheff
    Registered Users Posts: 5,835 ✭✭✭daheff


    This is one of the reasons why I want to get one untethered.
    Problem is that they are not released until May, and my grant runs out then...so could be a push to get it done.

    Decisions decisions.


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    #209
    gunnerfitzy
    Registered Users Posts: 1,425 ✭✭✭gunnerfitzy


    daheff wrote: »
    This is one of the reasons why I want to get one untethered.
    Problem is that they are not released until May, and my grant runs out then...so could be a push to get it done.

    Decisions decisions.

    You can cancel the current application and reapply.


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    #210
    Mickeroo
    Administrators, Computer Games Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 32,151 Admin ✭✭✭✭✭Mickeroo


    I got a holster in the box with mine from electric autos. I think any water just drains out of the holster so you don't get that problem.


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    #211
    Nedved85
    Registered Users Posts: 1,769 ✭✭✭Nedved85


    Funnily enough the rubber cover attached to the charger was completely lodged with water Saturday and the blue residue seen in the photos above were visible on mine.

    More worryingly was that the Zappi was showing an error - "Ground Fault - Disconnect EV and reset Zappi" which I did, multiple times after letting the head air dry but to no avail.

    Electrician is coming around later to have a look. He said they did install a ground wire alright so it could be the water issue that caused this?

    I might try a hair dryer to dry out the head properly (with the zappi is fully disconnected from the mains obviously :) )

    Holster being installed soon hopefully :)


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