John Delaney at the FAI Thread - (Mod Notes in OP)

Brock Turnpike

kippy wrote: »

He could have been pope in fairness.

John Delaney could run anything.

NIMAN

Where has he been these last few months?

No sightings of him in any of the media.

topmanamillion

Seth Brundle wrote: »

With UEFA? Not at all - someone of his calibre is going to be missed...



https://www.uefa.com/insideuefa/news/newsid=2638010.html

Presumably there's another pay off with this?
He was on €160,000 a year plus €300 a day "expenses". More than likely the pay off is what took this long.

Also I don't know how he can be credited with Iceland and Wales' runs. They were both top two in qualifying/main tournament so likley would have progressed anyway.

It would be more accurate to say "John Delaney did all he could to dilute the quality of the Euros to keep his head above water for another couple of years, in the cease pool of UEFA he will be missed"

Seth Brundle

kippy wrote: »

He could have been pope in fairness.

Feckin Jesuits :mad:

Umaro

There's talk of building a statue of him in Reykjavik lads. The folks over there actually know how to appreciate a top level football administrator.

josip

With his reputation officially in tatters on all fronts, where will he get a job that will keep him in the lifestyle he has become accustomed to?
No serious business would look at him.
Not a chance of jumping on the state gravy train like others have done.
He's toxic as far as all things soccer are concerned.
Love Island?

salmocab

josip wrote: »

With his reputation officially in tatters on all fronts, where will he get a job that will keep him in the lifestyle he has become accustomed to?
No serious business would look at him.
Not a chance of jumping on the state gravy train like others have done.
He's toxic as far as all things soccer are concerned.
Love Island?

If nothing else I’d say he’s alright for money. I’ve no doubt he’s very wealthy. Can’t see him getting a job in many places so if he does do something it will probably be something he comes up with himself but god knows what it could be.

LuckyLloyd

Irishmale0399 wrote: »

Think the bigger questions is....how many people who sit in the Aviva for a sell out game or ffinal qualifier care enough to do something about what went on in the FAI.

I know a lot who claim to love the Irish team, their LOI club but couldnt give a **** about how it is all being run. Its all about a day/evening out for them when they take the notion...a few cans, bit of craic with their mates.......typical Irish day trippers. They couldnt care less if JD was getting €5 or €5 million per year...all they want is tickets for the games they are interested in.

Or we support Irish lads wearing a green jersey representing their country. I hope that there ultimately are criminal charges carries through on this. But it isn’t the fault of Glenn Whelan, Shane Duffy et al. I’ve always supported the Irish team and nothing will change that.

jobeenfitz

He could could almost be rotten enough to run for election with FG or FF and top the pole.

Irishmale0399

LuckyLloyd wrote: »

Or we support Irish lads wearing a green jersey representing their country. I hope that there ultimately are criminal charges carries through on this. But it isn’t the fault of Glenn Whelan, Shane Duffy et al. I’ve always supported the Irish team and nothing will change that.

That is the part I really dont understand.....
1. Its our country as we all come from it!!!


2. If fans really want to support "Irish lads wearing a green jersey representing their country" then surely they should be able to see it is up to them to ensure the cancer within the FAI is removed. The only way to do that is to starve that cancer of what it feeds off...that is money. So if those fans really want to do something for the lads playing in green they will stay away from 2-5 games and force the cancer out.

topmanamillion

salmocab wrote: »

If nothing else I’d say he’s alright for money. I’ve no doubt he’s very wealthy. Can’t see him getting a job in many places so if he does do something it will probably be something he comes up with himself but god knows what it could be.

He's more than alright financially.
He "earned" €5,500,000 for his 14 years work with the FAI, has a million euro mansion in Wicklow, a €450,000 pay off from the FAI plus generous pension pot contributions. And a couple of years of a €160,000 salary +expenses from UEFA.

I know he has a furniture shop in Athlone and has a share in a building and rental company. Presumably he has other investments and business interests. Plus that hefty pension pot which will mature in a few years.

JD is laughing all the way to the bank.

salmocab

topmanamillion wrote: »

He's more than alright financially.
He "earned" €5,500,000 for his 14 years work with the FAI, has a million euro mansion in Wicklow, a €450,000 pay off from the FAI plus generous pension pot contributions. And a couple of years of a €160,000 salary +expenses from UEFA.

I know he has a furniture shop in Athlone and has a share in a building and rental company. Presumably he has other investments and business interests. Plus that hefty pension pot which will mature in a few years.

JD is laughing all the way to the bank.

The only thing I’d say he’ll really miss is the feeling of importance that he clearly bestowed on himself.

tapfit2004

topmanamillion wrote: »

He's more than alright financially.

I know he has a furniture shop in Athlone and has a share in a building and rental company. Presumably he has other investments and business interests.

Here's a new ad from the Athlone area.

Umaro

Early on in his time at UEFA's top table, senior figures at UEFA HQ had doubts about Delaney's manner. A figure in the Irish game this week recalled a conversation he had with one of the key ExCo members.

"Soon after John came in I had to take him aside for a quiet word. I had to tell him 'you don’t bring your girlfriend to work'," the UEFA figure said, ExCo members puzzled by Delaney's habit of having his partner, Emma English, attending official events.

There seems to be a large gap between how Delaney felt he was perceived in UEFA circles, and the reality of how he was seen in Europe: a sporting Phil Hogan.

And UEFA are so relieved to be rid of him that they issued a press statement which is truly bizarre. A small price to pay, they'll argue.

'Irish football was John Delaney's starting point, Europe his big stage. Now it's gone from his grasp' - full article - Independent.ie


I still wonder when and where he'll try to get back into public view. It's amazing he hasn't done his "my side of the story" with the Sindo yet. You know he won't be able to resist, it'll happen eventually.

Seth Brundle

Umaro wrote: »

I still wonder when and where he'll try to get back into public view. It's amazing he hasn't done his "my side of the story" with the Sindo yet. You know he won't be able to resist, it'll happen eventually.

Given that Bertie is still wheeled out to discuss politics, I can see JD still making the odd appearance.

Oat23

Seth Brundle wrote: »

Given that Bertie is still wheeled out to discuss politics, I can see JD still making the odd appearance.

Now you've bentioned Bertie I want to see JD drawing balls for the Bougainville FA Cup 1st Round.

tapfit2004

topmanamillion wrote: »

I know he has a furniture shop in Athlone

The furniture company has moved to tipp and is going along the same trajectory as the football company.

https://fora.ie/john-delaney-company-losses-3825820-Jan2018/

josip

Doesn't sound like it's trading and is more of a (property) asset management vehicle at this stage.

topmanamillion

josip wrote: »

Doesn't sound like it's trading and is more of a tax avoidance vehicle at this stage.

FYP

topmanamillion

Apparently Delaney had to be taken aside by a UEFA executive and told bringing his girlfriend to official events wasn't on.
Big difference between the opinion UEFA actually had of him and what the FAI were telling us. According to them he was the only reason we had a voice in UEFA.
He seemed to be working his way up the ladder to fill a quota from smaller nations/because of the length of time he was CEO here rather than any great respect they had for him.

check_six

topmanamillion wrote: »

Apparently Delaney had to be taken aside by a UEFA executive and told bringing his girlfriend to official events wasn't on.

Ah here, you've really jumped the fence when a group of international football blazers deems your behaviour extravagant and beyond the pale!

Niall Quinn gets deputy CEO gig, after his stockbroker got the Chairman role a week or 2 ago.

Hmmmmmmmmmm. I'd rather appointments weren't connected at all, father and son like the Delaneys, friends like Barrett and Quinn etc. But I guess there's nothing inherently wrong with it either, and they can hardly do a worse job.

https://www.rte.ie/sport/soccer/2020/0123/1110444-niall-quinn-set-to-become-deputy-ceo-at-fai/

salmocab

[Deleted User] wrote: »

Niall Quinn gets deputy CEO gig, after his stockbroker got the Chairman role a week or 2 ago.

Hmmmmmmmmmm. I'd rather appointments weren't connected at all, father and son like the Delaneys, friends like Barrett and Quinn etc. But I guess there's nothing inherently wrong with it either, and they can hardly do a worse job.

https://www.rte.ie/sport/soccer/2020/0123/1110444-niall-quinn-set-to-become-deputy-ceo-at-fai/

It said interim appointment, I like Quinn but not sure he has a long term place in administration.

MrMusician18

Looks like the FAI got their bailout today. All those hoping for real change are going to be disappointed

kippy

MrMusician18 wrote: »

Looks like the FAI got their bailout today. All those hoping for real change are going to be disappointed

To be fair, I disagree.
A bailout of some description had to happen. Changes are/have been made in senior personnel and it does look like the right people are getting involved.
The eyes of many people will be on what happens at the FAI over the next few years and as a result change is inevitable - change is already happening.
It looks like the bank(s) are also involved but based their actions on some level of support for the organisation by the State so I expect further statements in the next while around some refinancing etc.
Job losses at grass roots seem to have been avoided or almost avoided.

What I'd like to see in addition to what is happening already I'd like to see follow up/publication of the various reports ongoing and the people responsible for the fraud and illegal accounting that have gone one over the past few decades being brought to justice.
However this is where I think we will see "no change" - the arms of the state simply won't go after high profile white collar targets.

salmocab

kippy wrote: »

To be fair, I disagree.
A bailout of some description had to happen. Changes are/have been made in senior personnel and it does look like the right people are getting involved.
The eyes of many people will be on what happens at the FAI over the next few years and as a result change is inevitable - change is already happening.
It looks like the bank(s) are also involved but based their actions on some level of support for the organisation by the State so I expect further statements in the next while around some refinancing etc.
Job losses at grass roots seem to have been avoided or almost avoided.

What I'd like to see in addition to what is happening already I'd like to see follow up/publication of the various reports ongoing and the people responsible for the fraud and illegal accounting that have gone one over the past few decades being brought to justice.
However this is where I think we will see "no change" - the arms of the state simply won't go after high profile white collar targets.

A bailout certainly did not have to happen. Personally I think letting it go and then rebuilding again properly would have been the way to go. It would have meant a short term pain in fairness but in the long term it would have meant none of the tarnish that will always follow the fai would have stuck around.

Awesomeness

MrMusician18 wrote: »

Looks like the FAI got their bailout today. All those hoping for real change are going to be disappointed

In fairness some of the extra stipulations added today are very encouraging.

Some of the JD lites wont have seen this coming.

https://twitter.com/jfallondub/status/1222905848168509441

1. Tell SI salary of all staff
2. Anyone on council over 10 years to go this year
3. Commit to the CEO's pay remaining in line with govt pay guidelines
4. Increase to 6 independant directors
5. Prevent previous board members joining committees
6. Prevent reduncancies
7. 5 Year plan for LOI
8. help LoI clubs applu for capital funding to improving stadia

Irishmale0399

What the government did today was give the FAI money based on conditions that should force further change. They also saved the jobs of a number of people in Abbotstown and around the country whilst showing the new FAI what will happen should they try to follow JDs example in the future. Needless to say Sport Ireland will be auditing them correctly in the future and as Shane Ross said today one of the conditions to the money was that the LOI was invested in, no job losses and further change to committees etc.

Had the FAI gone bust....Euro 2020 was maybe gone, at a cost to many industries in Ireland, LOI football would have been damaged, maybe beyond repair, dedicated people who had nothing to do with this would have lost their jobs within the FAI and those working for partners or service providers. Add to that the ownership issues of the AVIVA.....

All in all a day that paves the way for change within Irish football, be it with a long road ahead. LOI clubs have a big role to play and have to step up as a group and not individuals.

On a side note...have they fired JDs enforcer yet or is he sticking to his chair???

yabadabado

MrMusician18 wrote: »

Looks like the FAI got their bailout today. All those hoping for real change are going to be disappointed

I think you may have jumped to conclusions there before you seen all the info.
It is a bailout but not without a lot of condition's attached.


imo opinion its probably the best that could be done, I don't think anyone wanted the association to go bust, it could have had some dire consequences that wouldn't be fixed just by starting up again in a few weeks under a new name.

MrMusician18

Irishmale0399 wrote: »

What the government did today was give the FAI money based on conditions that should force further change. They also saved the jobs of a number of people in Abbotstown and around the country whilst showing the new FAI what will happen should they try to follow JDs example in the future. Needless to say Sport Ireland will be auditing them correctly in the future and as Shane Ross said today one of the conditions to the money was that the LOI was invested in, no job losses and further change to committees etc.

Had the FAI gone bust....Euro 2020 was maybe gone, at a cost to many industries in Ireland, LOI football would have been damaged, maybe beyond repair, dedicated people who had nothing to do with this would have lost their jobs within the FAI and those working for partners or service providers. Add to that the ownership issues of the AVIVA.....

All in all a day that paves the way for change within Irish football, be it with a long road ahead. LOI clubs have a big role to play and have to step up as a group and not individuals.

On a side note...have they fired JDs enforcer yet or is he sticking to his chair???

They've also said that there'll be fuck all consequences for the organization if they fail again. Seemingly the FAI, like the banks, is too important to fail.