John Delaney at the FAI Thread - (Mod Notes in OP)

topmanamillion

[Deleted User] wrote: »

This raises a new angle, as presumably the LFA is a separate entity with its own trustees and board. Very hard questions will have to be asked of them. We now know that Delaney and Co. presided over a financial meltdown. How did they get others to participate and hand over enormous sums, were these decisions passed by AGMs etc.

Delaney was a master of Bullsh1t, that's how it was done. The LFA knew they had to keep on the right side of him or forget about grants and other assistance. I can only imagine the promises he made and the wink and nod stuff around grants and the likes.

The LFA buying premium seats to prop up the FAI is mind boggling. The FAI was a giant ponzi scheme where money moved from junior football to the FAI.
I wonder how coaches and players in Leinster feel this morning knowing a million euro windfall was squandered?

salmocab

salmocab wrote: »

The article basically said he told them the money they were due wasn’t there so they could just take tickets instead. They thought they’d no choice. Very hard to have any sympathy for them if they just accepted it.

Utter utter utter clowns who deserve to be hauled over the coals and made answerable for their decision.

One 2 minute phone call to a Solicitor and they could have found out the money was theirs and they did not have to accept tickets, magic beans or anything else they took instead.

Seth Brundle

Seth Brundle wrote: »

FAI staff and fans blast Shane Ross after 'shocking' FAI Christmas dinner joke
The Minister for Sport infuriated fans with a tongue-in-cheek Christmas tweet

He didn't infuriate me in the slightest.

In fact, I think the FAI is a laughing stock and should drop the "oh no one can make fun of us" victim card.

MrMusician18

Deleted User wrote: »

He didn't infuriate me in the slightest.

In fact, I think the FAI is a laughing stock and should drop the "oh no one can make fun of us" victim card.

"A callous disregard for those involved in football", much like the FAI and those grassroots supporters that stood right behind Delaney as he drove the organization into the ground

HalloweenJack

Jesus Christ. They're very thin—skinned to be offended at that.

I wouldn't even be picking up the phone until they clearly show that changes are being made. They still seem to thi k that can ride it out and whip up public support to avoid being held accountable.

This is one facet of JD's legacy, this attitude is all his making.

yabadabado

Seth Brundle wrote: »

FAI staff and fans blast Shane Ross after 'shocking' FAI Christmas dinner joke
The Minister for Sport infuriated fans with a tongue-in-cheek Christmas tweet

Harmless stuff but very easy find a few people who will complain about it.

salmocab

yabadabado wrote: »

Harmless stuff but very easy find a few people who will complain about it.

It is harmless although Ross probably shouldn’t be doing stuff like this.

yabadabado

salmocab wrote: »

It is harmless although Ross probably shouldn’t be doing stuff like this.

He definitely shouldn't but it isnt him that has the FAI on the brink .

salmocab

yabadabado wrote: »

He definitely shouldn't but it isnt him that has the FAI on the brink .

Oh for sure, I don’t like him but I think in the main he’s done the right things so far. They certainly seem like they think they should just be bailed out because of who they are. There are a lot involved in football who are guilty to lesser and greater degrees and I’d say there are people at low levels that also knew what was going on or enabled this in different ways. It’s a rotten organisation.

salmocab

salmocab wrote: »

It is harmless although Ross probably shouldn’t be doing stuff like this.

Aye.

And it’s a great way of throwing the thread off topic.

Look over there. Be angry with them too.

Classic.

CrabRevolution

The FAI and their defenders seem to have settled on "saving jobs" as their main argument for demanding a blank cheque from the government, and also for deflecting criticism.

While job losses are a shame, I don't see what makes the FAI jobs so untouchable. The closure of Molex in Clare will see far more job losses but I don't see any similar demands for the government to pump money into them.

I also think the FAI want to play on Ross' unpopularity. If you make a point to people of "you're siding with Shane Ross", some won't be able to stomach it so will deliberately say nothing.

Irishmale0399

Zebra3 wrote: »

And so it goes on.

And on

And on.

https://m.independent.ie/irish-news/delaneys-fai-tapped-clubs-1m-windfall-to-fund-association-38817432.html

Absolutely no pity with them. They were writing letters of support for the great leader only a few months ago, knowing right well that he had been dipping into their own cash.


Questions now have to be asked;
1. Who knew about this at board level??
2. Why was it ignored??
3. Those within the LFA who gave the OK for money to be spent on tickets as cash wasnt available.....why didnt they ask questions???


Time for a forensic audit on all who were involved with money and the FAI.

Jim Gazebo

Irishmale0399 wrote: »

Absolutely no pity with them. They were writing letters of support for the great leader only a few months ago, knowing right well that he had been dipping into their own cash.


Questions now have to be asked;
1. Who knew about this at board level??
2. Why was it ignored??
3. Those within the LFA who gave the OK for money to be spent on tickets as cash wasnt available.....why didnt they ask questions???


Time for a forensic audit on all who were involved with money and the FAI.

Every association under the auspice of the FAI should be looked into as well in my opinion after all these incidents. It's stacking up. DDSL gave them a big figure for use of an astro at one stage as well. Cowboys everywhere it's heartbreaking to see it in a sport I love.

fullstop

Some good reading in this. Plenty of contradictory quotes over the years. The Blatter ones are hilarious, and delusional.

https://www.independent.ie/sport/soccer/international-soccer/john-delaney-in-his-own-words-broken-promises-the-finances-and-the-football-family-38817367.html

Umaro

fullstop wrote: »

Some good reading in this. Plenty of contradictory quotes over the years. The Blatter ones are hilarious, and delusional.

https://www.independent.ie/sport/soccer/international-soccer/john-delaney-in-his-own-words-broken-promises-the-finances-and-the-football-family-38817367.html

Some incredible stuff in there alright, one of the best:

"The research we did a period ago is very good. If you want to buy a premium seat or a box in Lansdowne Road, the only place you can get it now is through Irish football because the rugby ones are sold out. So they will be a rare commodity and we're confident that there won't be any great problems. But if we had to write the €74m cheque tomorrow, we could write it tomorrow."

- On ticket sales for the Aviva Stadium, July 2008

Can't get into the 6 Nations? Sure why don't you pay over the odds and come see Oman.


(Was curious to see how many times we did play Oman. In the space of 4 years we played 3 friendlies against them. Utterly mental. I wonder if JD is sitting on their board too.)

Irishmale0399

Umaro wrote: »

Some incredible stuff in there alright, one of the best:



Can't get into the 6 Nations? Sure why don't you pay over the odds and come see Oman.


(Was curious to see how many times we did play Oman. In the space of 4 years we played 3 friendlies against them. Utterly mental. I wonder if JD is sitting on their board too.)

Was told at the time by someone in the FAI marketing departments that they were getting paid to play Oman. Amount was approx. €2 million per game. Kept JDs show on the road for a period it seems.

osarusan

Apropos of nothing, when I was a kid and personal computers were in their infancy, there was some football game in which Oman were the worst team in the world.

My friend's family had a computer so he was pretty good at this game, but my family didn't, so I wasn't, and in order to play with him in the game at his house, I had to prove myself by beating lowly Oman, which I don't think I was ever able to do.

Every time the Oman team comes up, this is what I think about.

DrumSteve

osarusan wrote: »

Apropos of nothing, when I was a kid and personal computers were in their infancy, there was some football game in which Oman were the worst team in the world.

My friend's family had a computer so he was pretty good at this game, but my family didn't, so I wasn't, and in order to play with him in the game at his house, I had to prove myself by beating lowly Oman, which I don't think I was ever able to do.

Every time the Oman team comes up, this is what I think about.

It wasn't that Italia90 game on the Mega Drive was it?

It was either them or Qatar who were ****e.

DeanAustin

Isn't it well known that the FAI withheld UEFA money from the LOI clubs in Europe and drip fed it to them when it should have gone in one lump sum?

DeanAustin

DeanAustin wrote: »

Isn't it well known that the FAI withheld UEFA money from the LOI clubs in Europe and drip fed it to them when it should have gone in one lump sum?

I think ultimately it was Dundalk screaming blue murder over European money that meant the FAI had to write a cheque to them that needed the loan injection by Delaney.

No wonder he hated the League of Ireland Clubs always doing really inconvenient stuff like asking for what was due to them, instead of saying "ah no, sure you keep it, instead just give us a few tickets for one of those schemes no one is buying".

DeanAustin

Deleted User wrote: »

I think ultimately it was Dundalk screaming blue murder over European money that meant the FAI had to write a cheque to them that needed the loan injection by Delaney.

No wonder he hated the League of Ireland Clubs always doing really inconvenient stuff like asking for what was due to them, instead of saying "ah no, sure you keep it, instead just give us a few tickets for one of those schemes no one is buying".

Yeah that's what I thought I heard happened. I was flabbergasted. But it just showed that Delaney did what he did in plain sight but used bully boy/intimidation tactics to get away with it.

yabadabado

DeanAustin wrote: »

Isn't it well known that the FAI withheld UEFA money from the LOI clubs in Europe and drip fed it to them when it should have gone in one lump sum?

They held 2m from Dundalk for almost a year.That is huge money for a LoI club ,that would more or less pay their wage bill for the year at the time.

Irishmale0399

yabadabado wrote: »

They held 2m from Dundalk for almost a year.That is huge money for a LoI club ,that would more or less pay their wage bill for the year at the time.

They also held payments for clubs from UEFA for youth developement.....up to JD leaving. Not sure if the money has been paid out to LOI clubs to date.

Not to forget that insulting ‘development plan’ mess.

yabadabado

Irishmale0399 wrote: »

They also held payments for clubs from UEFA for youth developement.....up to JD leaving. Not sure if the money has been paid out to LOI clubs to date.

I know of one club who were still trying to get money owed to them up to very recently, maybe around May .Dont know if they got it yet.

dreamers75

Pats had a few issues getting UEFA money and told the FAI to fcuk off in no uncertain terms about the 5k offer a few years ago, few on here slated Pats at the time for the which in the current light was the best reply ever (basically telling the FAI how a board of directors works). Derry also told them to fcuk off over the 5k no other LOI club did.

The whole Junior FAs buying tickets is money laundering they were given grants and or raised money and fed it into the FAI for a few posy 5k grants JD was allowed give out where and when it suited.

100% no charges will be pressed and 100% noone will be held accountable and all the Junior Fas will retain the same lads........

Nothing will change the LOI needs to breakway from the FAI and hopefully run itself well, last time didnt go so well because of Bohs and Shels spending money they didnt have.

topmanamillion

dreamers75 wrote: »

Nothing will change the LOI needs to breakway from the FAI and hopefully run itself well, last time didnt go so well because of Bohs and Shels spending money they didnt have.

The LOI will never be able to break away completely from the FAI and operate as a completely solo outfit.
UEFA money is paid directly through the FAI and seeing as the youth teams are part of the national development strategy they will always be under FAI control. Not to mention that the FAI owns 3 or 4 LOI grounds. There will always need to be collaboration.

What was being proposed for the last year was setting up a company to run the league with LOI and FAI representation. No idea what the story is with that now.

Id have zero faith in the clubs running the league on their own again. Any board would just be hijacked by shysters like Lee Power or some owner attempting a property swoop. It was far more than Bohs and Shels overspending the last time. The league was in real danger of completely folding at one point.

Seth Brundle

Reminder: FAI AGM to resume today, after July adjournment

https://twitter.com/marktighest/status/1211244855940308992?s=21

Irishmale0399

Plenty of change...

https://twitter.com/emmetmalone/status/1211257436440530944

https://twitter.com/noriordan/status/1211256676868919296