European Parliament Elections 2019

expectationlost

so how much do you reckon it costs the gov to send around a leaflet to every registered voter house in the country... ~8 million https://www.kildarestreet.com/wrans/?id=2014-06-17a.596&s=general+election+cost+litir#g597.q

it only cost 1,800 to sign up as European candidate...

expectationlost

Find out which party best represents your views for European Elections https://euandi2019.eu

L1011

expectationlost wrote: »

Find out which party best represents your views for European Elections https://euandi2019.eu

Gives me every party except DDI and Renua at 60% or above. Feck knows what that means.

I also think they may have taken some rather odd sources of their data for comparisons. AAA/PBP are second for me; when I'd rather resign my right to vote than give them a preference.

Its "radar" thing is skewed as they asked two questions on environmental topics and use that to make a lot of the decision.

expectationlost

L1011 wrote: »

Its "radar" thing is skewed as they asked two questions on environmental topics and use that to make a lot of the decision.

did you alter the question weighting (I didnt)

L1011

expectationlost wrote: »

did you alter the question weighting (I didnt)

Not enough clearly - only did a few.

is_that_so

L1011 wrote: »

Gives me every party except DDI and Renua at 60% or above. Feck knows what that means.

I also think they may have taken some rather odd sources of their data for comparisons. AAA/PBP are second for me; when I'd rather resign my right to vote than give them a preference.

Its "radar" thing is skewed as they asked two questions on environmental topics and use that to make a lot of the decision.

It's just down to basic policies. Most credible political entities tend to agree to some level on a lot of things so there'll be crossover support for anyone who does it. Unless you're way out on the fringes of course! Easiest answer is to look up parties you seem to "support"!

54and56

blackwhite wrote: »

Flyer in from Eamonn Murphy today. I doubt even Iona would fund this level of nuttiness.

Gemma O’Doherty, Ben Gilroy and the rest look positively sane in comparison.

I got one yesterday and it's the most disgusting $hite that's ever landed in the letter box, pure and utter bile, see https://irishelectionliterature.com/2019/04/30/leaflet-from-eamonn-murphy-independent-dublin-ep2019/. Read the comments below the flyer!!

If my daughter had picked it up and read it I'd feel justified in boxing the head off Eamonn Murphy and whoever placed such sick language and imagery into a house where kids could easily have read it.

I seriously hope he or one of his team know on my door. I kept the flyer (hidden) beside the door and look forward to delivering it back where it came from with some focused language of my own accompanying it.

What a d1ckhead.

awec

Got a flyer today from Mark Durkan for Fine Gael which confused me, given he's a former SDLPer and their new venture with Fianna Fail.

FrancieBrady

awec wrote: »

Got a flyer today from Mark Durkan for Fine Gael which confused me, given he's a former SDLPer and their new venture with Fianna Fail.

Saw the writing on the wall like Austin Currie before him and went for a soft FG seat in Europe.
He has no defined political allegiance, just fond of the comfy seat in my opinion FF FG Lab, anyone who will have him really.

Faugheen

He hasn't a prayer I reckon. Clare Daly will mop up the northside vote, You would imagine Frances Fitzgerald will get a bit. Lynn Boylan should keep her seat while the last one is probably between Andrews and Gary Gannon, although I wouldn't be at all surprised if Ciaran Cuffe is competitive for the Greens either.

He'll need Frances Fitzgerald to get a big surplus I reckon, which I don't see either. Daly and Boylan will top the poll from my educated guess.

blackwhite

A small selection from the Dublin candidates on RTÉ Week in Politics this morning.
Cuffe and Andrews coming across the strongest IMO - with White and Boylan acquitting themselves well also.
Durkan very poor - seems unwilling to give a hard opinion on anything.

AndrewJRenko

Faugheen wrote: »

He hasn't a prayer I reckon. Clare Daly will mop up the northside vote, You would imagine Frances Fitzgerald will get a bit. Lynn Boylan should keep her seat while the last one is probably between Andrews and Gary Gannon, although I wouldn't be at all surprised if Ciaran Cuffe is competitive for the Greens either.

He'll need Frances Fitzgerald to get a big surplus I reckon, which I don't see either. Daly and Boylan will top the poll from my educated guess.

Hard to see Gannon getting critical mass - Andrews will get a traditional FF vote, Cuffe will get a substantial green-friendly vote, White and Gannon will get their small party vote and a few hangers-on.

is_that_so

blackwhite wrote: »

A small selection from the Dublin candidates on RTÉ Week in Politics this morning.
Cuffe and Andrews coming across the strongest IMO - with White and Boylan acquitting themselves well also.
Durkan very poor - seems unwilling to give a hard opinion on anything.

I think Durkan is a profile raising effort and to help Fitzgerald in transfers. White has always given a good impression but just can't see him attracting enough votes.

An Ciarraioch

is_that_so wrote: »

I think Durkan is a profile raising effort and to help Fitzgerald in transfers. White has always given a good impression but just can't see him attracting enough votes.

Those of us of a certain age will remember Austin Currie's underwhelming presidential campaign.

AndrewJRenko

is_that_so wrote: »

I think Durkan is a profile raising effort and to help Fitzgerald in transfers.

That makes sense from a FG pov, but what's in it for him? Why would he take take on a campaign like this to help out a party that he had no real connection with? Is he naive enough to think that he has a real chance of a getting a couple of years on the gravy train?

L1011

Seanad seat next time FG have them going probably

is_that_so

An Ciarraioch wrote: »

Those of us of a certain age will remember Austin Currie's underwhelming presidential campaign.

As was Gay Mitchell's. Presidential is not the same as other elections and typically a bad one to draw conclusions from.

expectationlost

L1011 wrote: »

Seanad seat next time FG have them going probably

he was considered for the Seanad first but the only slot FG had was on the agriculture panel which he wouldn't be have the 'knowledge and experience' for https://www.thejournal.ie/mark-durkan-fine-gael-european-elections-4523626-Mar2019/

road_high

Watching the Week in Politics- that Lynne Boylan is a joke, typical SF doom monger opposed to everything, stirring sensationalist populist non sense but yet wants to be out there with the head in the trough.

Yurt2

Faugheen wrote: »

He hasn't a prayer I reckon. Clare Daly will mop up the northside vote, You would imagine Frances Fitzgerald will get a bit. Lynn Boylan should keep her seat while the last one is probably between Andrews and Gary Gannon, although I wouldn't be at all surprised if Ciaran Cuffe is competitive for the Greens either.

He'll need Frances Fitzgerald to get a big surplus I reckon, which I don't see either. Daly and Boylan will top the poll from my educated guess.

Cuffe will poll better than Gannon I think. It also wouldn't surprise me if FG ended up with zero seats running with Durkan.

road_high

Yurt! wrote: »

Cuffe will poll better than Gannon I think. It also wouldn't surprise me if FG ended up with zero seats running with Durkan.

Doubt it, there’s a quota there and FG are very strong in Dublin.

road_high

The Gemma O’Doherty nutter is running I see. The looney tune vote will be split, Hermann Kelly also going. Oh and so is Ben Gilroy

retalivity

expectationlost wrote: »

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65% renua is the highest for me - roflcopters

Eric Cartman

Im glad that website actually acknowledges that Ireland has no right (how renua is even on the list is beyond me, and how im an 83% match is beyond me) even the EU acknowledges that FG and FF are centre left pro EU.

L1011

The EU didn't decide where to classify parties; the University of Lucerne did. The fact that it has PBP to the right (slightly) of Labour would indicate the validity of their decisions!

MFPM

Eric Cartman wrote: »

Im glad that website actually acknowledges that Ireland has no right (how renua is even on the list is beyond me, and how im an 83% match is beyond me) even the EU acknowledges that FG and FF are centre left pro EU.

The idea that FG are centre left is absurd, FF tends to don left rhetoric went it suits them.

expectationlost

L1011 wrote: »

The EU didn't decide where to classify parties; the University of Lucerne did.

apparently UCD masters students did http://www.ucd.ie/spire/newsandevents/euandivoteradviceapp/

Masters students in Dr Cross' Politics of European Governance module contributed to the big task of coding Irish political party policies for the app.

https://twitter.com/ucdpolitics/status/1125697600735281153

Eric Cartman

MFPM wrote: »

The idea that FG are centre left is absurd, FF tends to don left rhetoric went it suits them.

Name two right wing things fg have actually done in this election cycle.

MFPM

Eric Cartman wrote: »

Name two right wing things fg have actually done in this election cycle.

Seriously???? They've just announced they are going to subsidise rural broadband up to 3Bn and the private sector will run and own it - the state will never own the network - essentially they have agreed to a private monopoly.

They have established the LMA which which is essentially the privatisation of public land.

They have undermined building regs for apartments after intensive lobbying by various private sector interests to facilitate apartment building simply to make it more profitable...they introduced and continue to rely on HAP to provide social and affordable housing.

They are facilitaing the privatisation of 10% (to start with) of Dublin Bus routes.

On a political level Coveney has publicly supported Guaido's US backed attempted coup in Venezuela....

We can go on if you like...As I said it's absurd to consider FG as centre left.

Eric Cartman

Government spending on infrastructure and spending on housing the poor is right wing... ive heard it all now.