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So, Drogheda seems to have turned into a war zone then....

  • 11-11-2018 11:06pm
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    Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 42,788 Mod ✭✭✭✭


    ...at least, more so than usual.

    Bull Ring shut down all afternoon due to a "suspicious device" under a car. Then this evening, an explosion in Moneymore, with helicopters buzzing overhead. Article earlier I read said that the bomb is the eighth incident since Thursday night involving two traveler families that seem to have declared war on each other, violently.

    Sad it needs to be said, but stay safe everyone.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,519 ✭✭✭CheerLouth


    Place has gone mental


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,087 ✭✭✭markc1184


    A matter of time until some innocent person gets seriously injured or worse.


  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 42,788 Mod ✭✭✭✭Lord TSC


    I'm seeing two different stories now.

    5 men arrested for stabbing a man in his twenties
    and 5 men arrested for kidnapping a man in his twenties.

    I presume its the same five guys but the story is getting reported in different ways.


  • Posts: 14,344 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Lord TSC wrote: »
    two traveler families that seem to have declared war on each other, violently.

    Sad it needs to be said, but stay safe everyone.


    Ah to be fair, as dramatic as it all seems to be, I'd say Joe Soap is fairly safe and secure. The traveller lads are only really out trying to get each other (and are struggling at even managing that).


    Unless you're directly involved, I wouldn't be concerned. Some people (especially those unfortunate enough to have to live near the action) will have to suffer through the inconveniences attached to it, but I wouldn't say they're particularly unsafe.


    I'd imagine the Gardai are hoping they'll all kill each other off. Even those involved know not to get the general public too tied up in it, because that's when the Gardai will have to act and do something, and that's in no one's interest.


    Long term, this could be the best thing to ever happen to Moneymore. When this all settles, they might actually get proper Garda and Council resources for the area, to deal with the troublemakers.


    Lots of lawlessness in Moneymore, but lots (in fact, the vast majority) of the people down there are genuine decent people, burdened by the minority around them.



    Great ammunition for Peter Casey supporters! :P


  • Posts: 14,344 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Lord TSC wrote: »
    I'm seeing two different stories now.

    5 men arrested for stabbing a man in his twenties
    and 5 men arrested for kidnapping a man in his twenties.

    I presume its the same five guys but the story is getting reported in different ways.


    If Facebook is to be believed, they (dunno who 'they' are, obviously one side of the fight) set a car on fire with gas cannisters in it, and it was supposed to be to distract the Gardai and residents.


    Then they entered a house, stabbed a chap, and threw him in a van to take him away. But the Gardai were alerted to it and caught them in time.




    Grain of salt to go with that story, though!


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,087 ✭✭✭markc1184


    If Facebook is to be believed, they (dunno who 'they' are, obviously one side of the fight) set a car on fire with gas cannisters in it, and it was supposed to be to distract the Gardai and residents.


    Then they entered a house, stabbed a chap, and threw him in a van to take him away. But the Gardai were alerted to it and caught them in time.




    Grain of salt to go with that story, though!

    This is the version I heard from someone living in Money more.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,452 ✭✭✭Twenty Grand


    Not a war zone, no more than most other Irish towns can be classes as war zones.

    Few bad night due to the ethnic minority but it'll blow over in a day or two.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,601 ✭✭✭Hoboo


    Not a war zone, no more than most other Irish towns can be classes as war zones.

    Few bad night due to the ethnic minority but it'll blow over in a day or two.


    No chance it will, hasn't blown over since it started a year ago, and the last 3 weeks its been non stop. Whats being reported is not even the tip of the iceberg.


  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 42,788 Mod ✭✭✭✭Lord TSC


    markc1184 wrote: »
    This is the version I heard from someone living in Money more.

    Yeap, exact same story heard today too.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 568 ✭✭✭rgodard80a


    markc1184 wrote: »
    A matter of time until some innocent person gets seriously injured or worse.

    A teenage schoolboy was bitten by a dog when passing the halting site on Cement road last week on his way to school, got 14 stitches.
    Not exactly headline news, but a smaller kid could've got worse.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,601 ✭✭✭Hoboo


    rgodard80a wrote: »
    A teenage schoolboy was bitten by a dog when passing the halting site on Cement road last week on his way to school, got 14 stitches.
    Not exactly headline news, but a smaller kid could've got worse.

    I feel sorry for the kid, but also for the dog.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,601 ✭✭✭Hoboo


    If Facebook is to be believed, they (dunno who 'they' are, obviously one side of the fight) set a car on fire with gas cannisters in it, and it was supposed to be to distract the Gardai and residents.


    Then they entered a house, stabbed a chap, and threw him in a van to take him away. But the Gardai were alerted to it and caught them in time.




    Grain of salt to go with that story, though!



    Its the maguires from cement road, and the Boylans from Moneymore and elsewhere. Faa side royalty. The biggest Irish gang of the moment back them up so it aint gonna end well. Plus the INLA hate the maguires. They were warned two weeks ago they'd be burned out of their houses, but they don't give a ***. Too much cash involved.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,087 ✭✭✭markc1184


    Fourth evening in a row I've been stopped at an armed checkpoint around the town. Those lads mean business. I've passed more checkpoints in the last few days than I had in the previous couple of years.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,563 ✭✭✭Wing126


    markc1184 wrote: »
    Fourth evening in a row I've been stopped at an armed checkpoint around the town. Those lads mean business. I've passed more checkpoints in the last few days than I had in the previous couple of years.

    Where were you stopped?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,087 ✭✭✭markc1184


    Wing126 wrote: »
    Where were you stopped?

    Dublin Road, Marleys lane, between the roundabouts at the north road and m1 retail and then outside the recycling centre.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,557 ✭✭✭✭lawred2


    Hoboo wrote: »
    Its the maguires from cement road, and the Boylans from Moneymore and elsewhere. Faa side royalty. The biggest Irish gang of the moment back them up so it aint gonna end well. Plus the INLA hate the maguires. They were warned two weeks ago they'd be burned out of their houses, but they don't give a ***. Too much cash involved.

    Is that you Paul?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,601 ✭✭✭Hoboo


    lawred2 wrote: »
    Is that you Paul?

    Paul? Kimmage? Ha, no. I have my sauces as they say.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,557 ✭✭✭✭lawred2


    Hoboo wrote: »
    Paul? Kimmage? Ha, no. I have my sauces as they say.

    Ah no that other lad.. Williams

    I like Kimmage


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,601 ✭✭✭Hoboo


    lawred2 wrote: »
    Ah no that other lad.. Williams

    I like Kimmage

    :D Yeah, sorry, Williams. Unless they lads settle things on the pitch.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,782 ✭✭✭Scotty #


    All the good work the Fleadh did to boost tourism to the town is gone down the drain.

    I don't know what the solution is but this is all VERY damaging to the local economy and will be felt for years. I already know of one person who's backed out of a house purchase this week as a direct result of the negative media regarding the area.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,684 ✭✭✭macadam


    Regarding housing will these thugs now be turfed out of there council houses in Moneymore and the cement rd for causing so much anti social behaviour in the town of Drogheda.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,601 ✭✭✭Hoboo


    macadam wrote: »
    Regarding housing will these thugs now be turfed out of there council houses in Moneymore and the cement rd for causing so much anti social behaviour in the town of Drogheda.

    Cement road? Definitely not. Sure they have ethnic group status now ffs!! When it was raided during the summer a few times, once with 250,000 cash plus coke and weed, stolen tools, garden mowers, streamers, cars, watches, nothing done.

    Moneymore, unlikely, its not the parents its the kids (although those kids are adults). And the couple of street rats from Rathmullen who run with the maguires are 17-20 too, so again its their parents.

    This will die down for a bit, but continue with a few stabbings, beatings etc in the background. Its been going on every week for the past year, but only hit the media after a few petrol bombs were thrown about. Thing is 99% of the town will never come across these guys, they're practically on top of each other, and they're all afraid of their lives to step outside they're estate/site.

    As someone said above its a pity, after the Fleadh and all the praise the town got, to be ruined by two families of swamp life.


  • Posts: 14,344 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    macadam wrote: »
    Regarding housing will these thugs now be turfed out of there council houses in Moneymore and the cement rd for causing so much anti social behaviour in the town of Drogheda.




    Think the halting site opposite Aldi on the cement road has been cleared out and knocked by the Council?


    The houses down beside Drogheda hire don't seem to be touched (albeit I'm unsure which site is supposed to be the troublesome one).


    In Moneymore, you've more chance of Jesus himself arriving and raising the dead from the graveyard to assist the Garda, than you do of the Council actually evicting a social tenant. Even if they do, they'll just re-house them elsewhere anyway. :rolleyes:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,601 ✭✭✭Hoboo


    Think the halting site opposite Aldi on the cement road has been cleared out and knocked by the Council?


    The houses down beside Drogheda hire don't seem to be touched (albeit I'm unsure which site is supposed to be the troublesome one).


    In Moneymore, you've more chance of Jesus himself arriving and raising the dead from the graveyard to assist the Garda, than you do of the Council actually evicting a social tenant. Even if they do, they'll just re-house them elsewhere anyway. :rolleyes:


    Has it actually been cleared? The houses won't be touched. Only thing I could find was in The Sun (spit, pinch of salt) saying coco bulldozers moved in on monday. Id have thought that would make media noise. Haven't been down that way in two weeks.


  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 42,788 Mod ✭✭✭✭Lord TSC


    Apparently there’s a €60,000 bounty on one guys head now. I’ve noticed the Gardai driving up and down Grange Rath this week too, and it’s apparently cause the guy lives in here.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,082 ✭✭✭enricoh


    Lord TSC wrote: »
    Apparently there’s a €60,000 bounty on one guys head now. I’ve noticed the Gardai driving up and down Grange Rath this week too, and it’s apparently cause the guy lives in here.

    Plenty of cops living in grange rath, not a bad move on his behalf!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,087 ✭✭✭markc1184


    Hoboo wrote: »
    Has it actually been cleared? The houses won't be touched. Only thing I could find was in The Sun (spit, pinch of salt) saying coco bulldozers moved in on monday. Id have thought that would make media noise. Haven't been down that way in two weeks.

    There was a photo floating around earlier in the week of the site completely demolished. I've no idea though if it was legit or not.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,684 ✭✭✭macadam


    markc1184 wrote: »
    There was a photo floating around earlier in the week of the site completely demolished. I've no idea though if it was legit or not.

    It was flattened alright, completely demolished.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,059 ✭✭✭✭Spanish Eyes


    Flatten all of the sites causing problems. It's not as if they cannot afford to pay for their own accommodation, bin charges, LPT, ESB and so on now is it?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,601 ✭✭✭Hoboo


    Flatten all of the sites causing problems. It's not as if they cannot afford to pay for their own accommodation, bin charges, LPT, ESB and so on now is it?

    Theres only one site.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,430 ✭✭✭bladespin


    More action (possibly averted) tonight judging from some fb posts.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,059 ✭✭✭✭Spanish Eyes


    Hoboo wrote: »
    Theres only one site.

    I was referring to countrywide. sorry.

    I hate this kind of siege stuff. It must be absolute hell for those not involved.

    Hope it gets sorted for the sake of law abiding citizens very soon.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,429 ✭✭✭wirelessdude01


    bladespin wrote:
    More action (possibly averted) tonight judging from some fb posts.


    Tell us more.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,430 ✭✭✭bladespin


    Posts about an armed checkpoint being rammed. It is fb so pinch of salt...

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,087 ✭✭✭markc1184


    bladespin wrote: »
    Posts about an armed checkpoint being rammed. It is fb so pinch of salt...

    That happened on Friday night. There was also 2 cars set on fire in Ballsgrove on Saturday night. I presume it's somehow linked seen as that has been the M.O. of both sides so far.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,138 ✭✭✭gipi


    Scotty # wrote: »
    All the good work the Fleadh did to boost tourism to the town is gone down the drain.

    I don't know what the solution is but this is all VERY damaging to the local economy and will be felt for years. I already know of one person who's backed out of a house purchase this week as a direct result of the negative media regarding the area.

    I was in Bru last night, and it was as quiet as Calvary cemetery. Talking to one of the staff who said it's been like that for a week - he reckons it's related to the current events, people afraid to come out or travel. Worrying if true!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,996 ✭✭✭10green bottles


    https://twitter.com/LMFMRADIO/status/1064826892191186944

    In his leaders speech to the Fine Gael conference on Saturday,LV was talking about tax cuts,and yet it seems we cant even afford proper law & order in County Louth because the funding isn;t there.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28 pen123


    If you are looking for the Guards in Drogheda, there is a good chance you'll find them in Noddle Box on West Street rather than the Cement Road or Moneymore.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,082 ✭✭✭enricoh


    Funding my arse, called into laytown cop shop last week - door locked, blinds drawn and doorbell disconnected. 5 cop cars outside it and could here them chatting away inside.
    Dunno what addition more gardai would be there!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 23 Knoby


    Did I not read an article a few months ago by Supt Watter's where he stated that towns in the region "Had not a Drug problem" seems to have the opposite opinion of Chief Supt Mangan. Have these clowns even a clue whats happening in our towns villages schools and crossroads week in week out,.
    They let this thing get out of control and its turning into a similar situation as Limerick 10 years or so ago, the dogs on the street know whats going on in every town village etc are these law enforcers/investigators going around with their eyes closed or maybe too engrossed in The Racing Post.
    I like everyone else know who the dealers are in my area as Im sure each and everyone on here know the dealers pushers in your area. Time to take them out one at a time, take their flash cars and trimmings off them and their social welfare houses etc.


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  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 42,788 Mod ✭✭✭✭Lord TSC


    Mary Street shut today cause they found a pipebomb in a house. Seemed to happen round 4, which would have meant all the kids who get buses there would have been close by.


  • Posts: 15,661 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    100k worth of coke seized in in Moneymoore also https://www.lmfm.ie/news/suspected-pipe-bomb-discovered-at-a-house-in-drogh/

    Traffic was backing up to Lidl on donore rd from around 3:30pm. Was worse around 6pm.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 451 ✭✭hurler32


    I believe retail business in Drogheda is down substantially this December with many law abiding folk from the catchment area Afraid to go to Drogheda ... it’s sad how law and order has broken down in Ireland and businesses paying all their corporation tax etc suffer ??


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,452 ✭✭✭Twenty Grand


    hurler32 wrote: »
    I believe retail business in Drogheda is down substantially this December with many law abiding folk from the catchment area Afraid to go to Drogheda ... it’s sad how law and order has broken down in Ireland and businesses paying all their corporation tax etc suffer ??

    Really? Is this based on any facts?


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,896 ✭✭✭sabat


    hurler32 wrote: »
    I believe retail business in Drogheda is down substantially this December with many law abiding folk from the catchment area Afraid to go to Drogheda ... it’s sad how law and order has broken down in Ireland and businesses paying all their corporation tax etc suffer ??

    Sterling is way down...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,718 ✭✭✭whippet


    hurler32 wrote: »
    I believe retail business in Drogheda is down substantially this December with many law abiding folk from the catchment area Afraid to go to Drogheda ... it’s sad how law and order has broken down in Ireland and businesses paying all their corporation tax etc suffer ??

    what a load of nonsense. I'm in the catchment area and am in the town nearly every day to either go to the gym, coffee or lunch.

    In reality law abiding folk have nothing to worry about - I lived in parts of dublin when I was a student that were rife with drugs gangs - never once did I have any issues.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,082 ✭✭✭enricoh


    Really? Is this based on any facts?

    I heard theres 4 units closing after crimbo in scotch hall, dunno if true or not but it was from a lad with a business in town that i wouldn't label a spoofer


  • Posts: 15,661 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    enricoh wrote: »
    I heard theres 4 units closing after crimbo in scotch hall, dunno if true or not but it was from a lad with a business in town that i wouldn't label a spoofer

    Those are closing to make way for the cinema.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,306 ✭✭✭✭Drumpot


    Those are closing to make way for the cinema.

    What cinema? I didn’t know it was getting one.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,502 ✭✭✭q85dw7osi4lebg


    Cinema and restaurant going in. New look and those shops down there leaving.


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