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Garda January intake 2019

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  • Registered Users Posts: 104 ✭✭Fabio_1988


    I really hope the March thing isn’t true! :(


  • Registered Users Posts: 57 ✭✭twoblub


    Fabio_1988 wrote: »
    I really hope the March thing isn’t true! :(

    Ring hrm and ask them for confirmd dates


  • Registered Users Posts: 92 ✭✭RedDragon386


    Rprat wrote: »
    I’m from the 2017 campaign and I was on to HRM this morning about my vetting but was told it was outstanding but wouldn’t tell me why! Do they normally say why or is just the person I got on the phone? I’ve passed everything so just waiting for this!
    I've passed everything since last june 2017. Plenty of heartbreaks. Didn't have a holiday this year anticipating a call up. Gave up calling hrm. That helps a little


  • Registered Users Posts: 92 ✭✭RedDragon386


    Apparently the word down in templemore is that the next intake is being pushed back to March
    Word from who? Is this speculation from trainees down there? The government have recently, and very publicly, committed to taking in 800 new recruits in 2019, and have already provided the funds to do so. Based on what was said here they struggled to fill the last intake, but to completely suspend this intake would be a bit of a step. Especially considering that there will be likely 100-300 new recruits from the 2018 campaign ready in the next few months.
    Rumours down in templemore is all he said my friend. I hope that's all it is


  • Registered Users Posts: 36 lg.cardonha


    Hi, did any of you do any course for the second stage? I have been invited for the second stage and I want to make sure I do well.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 26 peader06


    Hi, did any of you do any course for the second stage? I have been invited for the second stage and I want to make sure I do well.

    I didn’t do any course for any stage. Currently waiting on my vetting to clear then an invite


  • Registered Users Posts: 11 123see41


    Hey guys my first time posting I'm from June 17 missed the October take due to failing the sit ups. Done retest Saturday and passed rang hrm this morning all vetting complete. I asked them about the January intake and she said there won't be a January intake that it will be April. Has anyone else been told the same? Was really hoping for January:(


  • Registered Users Posts: 5 Car2


    April 19 next intake. Just onto HRM.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 14 pubsize


    If April is the next intake does this mean we'll still see 4 intakes in 2019 but just in a shorter time frame? Maybe April, June, September, December etc?


  • Registered Users Posts: 6 AdamMc90


    Please god the fella whose father in law does the first aid is right. He was right in October anyway. Have HRM ever said a later month to anyone before?


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  • Registered Users Posts: 31 Joda96


    Car2 wrote: »
    April 19 next intake. Just onto HRM.

    Can't understand this, surely they could make up the numbers from those of us from September 2016 and 2017s competition ?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 74 ✭✭Rparker17


    AdamMc90 wrote: »
    Please god the fella whose father in law does the first aid is right. He was right in October anyway. Have HRM ever said a later month to anyone before?

    I just text the buddy, waiting on a reply


  • Registered Users Posts: 148 ✭✭droptheworld


    123see41 wrote: »
    Hey guys my first time posting I'm from June 17 missed the October take due to failing the sit ups. Done retest Saturday and passed rang hrm this morning all vetting complete. I asked them about the January intake and she said there won't be a January intake that it will be April. Has anyone else been told the same? Was really hoping for January:(

    Did they say they had received your results from the fitness test yet?


  • Registered Users Posts: 11 123see41


    Did they say they had received your results from the fitness test yet?

    I didn't ask. I told them I had it Saturday and passed and asked about my vetting she said my vetting is complete and I then asked about January and she said there is no intake for January that it will be April.


  • Registered Users Posts: 132 ✭✭paddyCPW


    HRM could be wrong, it would make sense to have it in Jan 2019 going by 2018


  • Registered Users Posts: 104 ✭✭Fabio_1988


    Some disaster if it’s true! I’ll still be checking emails on Friday just in case


  • Registered Users Posts: 132 ✭✭paddyCPW


    Fabio_1988 wrote: »
    Some disaster if it’s true! I’ll still be checking emails on Friday just in case

    It will be so disappointing!


  • Registered Users Posts: 86 ✭✭Irishman87545


    Yeah hopefully enough thats miss information , I'm driving them mad at work as it is thinking I'd be finished up in October ha


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 166 ✭✭fmp3d26og54yi9


    Rparker17 wrote: »
    I just text the buddy, waiting on a reply

    Fingers crossed you hear back.


  • Registered Users Posts: 104 ✭✭Fabio_1988


    paddyCPW wrote: »
    It will be so disappointing!

    I was told in September there’d be no offers out for a few weeks but offers came out the next day so you never know! Worrying that people were actually told there won’t be one until April though :-/


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  • Registered Users Posts: 132 ✭✭paddyCPW


    Yeah hopefully enough thats miss information , I'm driving them mad at work as it is thinking I'd be finished up in October ha

    When did you apply and get your PCT finished?


  • Registered Users Posts: 86 ✭✭Irishman87545


    paddyCPW wrote: »
    When did you apply and get your PCT finished?

    Finished pct since August and applied 2017


  • Registered Users Posts: 132 ✭✭paddyCPW


    Finished pct since August and applied 2017

    Surprised you didn't get taken in October.


  • Registered Users Posts: 86 ✭✭Irishman87545


    paddyCPW wrote: »
    Surprised you didn't get taken in October.

    Ah vetting was outstanding , say I would have if it wasn't for that


  • Registered Users Posts: 8 ALD123


    I’m from the June 17 campaign and emailed to see when the offers were coming out and was told the PCT (which I passed on December 1st) was only one element of the application and I have outstanding vetting, does anyone know what this actually means? I assumed since I progressed that my vetting was fine. Have no family or anything abroad so I’m confused as to what has gone wrong to be honest.


  • Registered Users Posts: 132 ✭✭paddyCPW


    ALD123 wrote: »
    I’m from the June 17 campaign and emailed to see when the offers were coming out and was told the PCT (which I passed on December 1st) was only one element of the application and I have outstanding vetting, does anyone know what this actually means? I assumed since I progressed that my vetting was fine. Have no family or anything abroad so I’m confused as to what has gone wrong to be honest.

    Did you have the meeting with the Super?


  • Registered Users Posts: 8 ALD123


    paddyCPW wrote: »
    Did you have the meeting with the Super?
    Yeah I did, I’ve everything done as far as I can tell anyway


  • Registered Users Posts: 132 ✭✭paddyCPW


    ALD123 wrote: »
    Yeah I did, I’ve everything done as far as I can tell anyway

    I had a meeting with Super and he said he would sign off the vetting and send it back up.. I should probably ring and find out myself. I'm from June 17 also.


  • Registered Users Posts: 10 dayday888


    The January intake has been pushed back till April guys....


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  • Registered Users Posts: 86 ✭✭Irishman87545


    dayday888 wrote: »
    The January intake has been pushed back till April guys....

    For definite?


  • Registered Users Posts: 132 ✭✭paddyCPW


    It won't be definite until @Rparker17 confirms it haha he was correct on previous dates.


  • Registered Users Posts: 10 dayday888


    For definite?

    Confirmed by HRM earlier today... So annoying!!!


  • Registered Users Posts: 6 NualaG93


    Hey guys, I rang there and they said they’ve no date in April but it will be April. I thought my vetting was all completed as well as the super said she was signing off on it but apparently they do internal vetting and it’s outstanding? This is the first I’ve heard of it and I really wonder if whoever I was talking to in Dublin knew what she was talking about. I passed my PCT on decemeber 1st and she said they hadn’t received my results yet so perhaps that’s why my form hasn’t been signed off? Some reassurance would be much appreciated. Thanks!


  • Registered Users Posts: 132 ✭✭paddyCPW


    NualaG93 wrote: »
    Hey guys, I rang there and they said they’ve no date in April but it will be April. I thought my vetting was all completed as well as the super said she was signing off on it but apparently they do internal vetting and it’s outstanding? This is the first I’ve heard of it and I really wonder if whoever I was talking to in Dublin knew what she was talking about. I passed my PCT on decemeber 1st and she said they hadn’t received my results yet so perhaps that’s why my form hasn’t been signed off? Some reassurance would be much appreciated. Thanks!

    Hi, so the college sends back results after all PCT's are completed in the month. I think the last PCT was the 08/12/2018, so HRM should have them back this week.

    After they get your PCT results they just wait for one last sign off of on your vetting (very quick check) then your taken in on the next date for the college.


  • Registered Users Posts: 6 NualaG93


    Thank you so much that’s so helpful.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 206 ✭✭FIVE.0


    If there is no intake in January, they might make Aprils intake bigger so they could take in 300 or so trainees instead of 200, so it might not make a difference to the numbers for 2019 too much. It will be annoying for some of of the 2016/17 candidates with repeats.


  • Registered Users Posts: 33 foam


    FIVE.0 wrote: »
    If there is no intake in January, they might make Aprils intake bigger so they could take in 300 or so trainees instead of 200, so it might not make a difference to the numbers for 2019 too much. It will be annoying for some of of the 2016/17 candidates with repeats.

    Did they give any reason as to why there would be no intake?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 206 ✭✭FIVE.0


    foam wrote: »
    I'd be surprised if they took more than the usual amount as the college doesn't have lecture rooms big enough to take anymore.


    200 people arnt being taught at the one time. The classes are split. They used to take in way more 200 back in the day.


  • Registered Users Posts: 132 ✭✭paddyCPW


    Rparker17 wrote: »
    I just text the buddy, waiting on a reply

    Any update from your friend?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,638 ✭✭✭✭Witcher


    FIVE.0 wrote: »
    200 people arnt being taught at the one time. The classes are split. They used to take in way more 200 back in the day.

    You still have to fit into the largest lecture theatre to be addressed as an intake and your first 2/3 weeks are spent in it. Even classroom space would become issue. 200-210ish is the max that will be taken.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,935 ✭✭✭TallGlass


    Interesting to see such a large gap, from my observations they could be running a reserve class in Jan so might explain the HS class the guy runs.

    Such a gap in dates would to me indicate that they are not getting the throughput on applications and to go ahead with the January class with low numbers might not be financially viable rather than waiting to get the numbers up.

    Another piece of info to backup my theory on them not having the numbers is they are looking to raise the age limit for future recruitment drives.

    On the plus side folks. Just as easily as them moving it to April they can just as easily move it back to Feb etc..

    However if you want it set in stone. Ask a local TD to raise it as a question to the Minister. However, you might just see that answer in April they take so long!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 206 ✭✭FIVE.0


    Strider wrote: »
    You still have to fit into the largest lecture theatre to be addressed as an intake and your first 2/3 weeks are spent in it. Even classroom space would become issue. 200-210ish is the max that will be taken.

    College has the capacity to hold 520 students. There will only be one intake of students on there by April. So it's very possible that they will take more than 200 trainees.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,935 ✭✭✭TallGlass


    https://www.oireachtas.ie/en/debates/question/2018-11-06/418/?highlight%5B0%5D=garda&highlight%5B1%5D=garda

    Tuesday, 6 November 2018

    'I am advised by the Commissioner that approximately 170 applicants remain in the 2016 competition and 270 applicants remain in the 2017 competition'

    https://www.oireachtas.ie/en/debates/question/2018-10-23/318/?highlight%5B0%5D=garda

    Tuesday, 23 October 2018

    'I have been informed by the Garda Commissioner that there is currently no date for the commencement of a new recruitment campaign for Garda Trainees.'

    (Interesting considering they plan to recruit 800 Garda next year but seemingly there is no campaign to get the application stream flowing!)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 206 ✭✭FIVE.0


    TallGlass wrote: »
    https://www.oireachtas.ie/en/debates/question/2018-11-06/418/?highlight%5B0%5D=garda&highlight%5B1%5D=garda

    Tuesday, 6 November 2018

    'I am advised by the Commissioner that approximately 170 applicants remain in the 2016 competition and 270 applicants remain in the 2017 competition'

    https://www.oireachtas.ie/en/debates/question/2018-10-23/318/?highlight%5B0%5D=garda

    Tuesday, 23 October 2018

    'I have been informed by the Garda Commissioner that there is currently no date for the commencement of a new recruitment campaign for Garda Trainees.'

    (Interesting considering they plan to recruit 800 Garda next year but seemingly there is no campaign to get the application stream flowing!)

    Pity he didn't give a reason for the delay.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,935 ✭✭✭TallGlass


    TallGlass wrote: »
    Another piece of info to backup my theory on them not having the numbers is they are looking to raise the age limit for future recruitment drives.

    Just to point out from the figures, I was actually wrong on this. There was an overall increase in applications to join in 2018 over 2017

    2018 approximately 6,300 applications
    2017 approximately 5,400 applications

    At the end of 2017 there was a net overall increase in Garda numbers by 600.

    3,677 Garda members are women (random observation from one of the questions!)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 206 ✭✭FIVE.0


    Strider wrote: »
    I'm well aware of how many the college can hold;)

    My point was 200 ish is the max they can fit in and address you as one group. There are logistical issues involved, all trainees arent housed on site, you're aware of that? The majority of each intake gets put out into digs to accomodate the next intake so they'd need 100 or so more host families. Bedrooms are held back for Gardai down on CPD courses, probationers down for their phase 3 days, visiting foreign police etc. Classroom, dining and parking space are all packed out.

    There won't ever be more than 200-210 in an intake unless the college has an overhaul. There isnt even the staff to get around 100 more trainees.

    Yes I'm well aware of living situation of the recruits. And like I said, it's a possibility.
    I'd have to disagree on the staffing issues to get around 100 trainees given that there is approx 200 per intake.

    We will have to agree to disagree on this one.


  • Registered Users Posts: 132 ✭✭paddyCPW


    I was informed by a trainer in Templemore that January was pushed back, due to not having enough numbers.

    They had a meeting yesterday morning and came to that conclusion, however there were PCT's in December, so if there is a high pass rate there is a chance it could happen in February.


  • Registered Users Posts: 86 ✭✭Irishman87545


    paddyCPW wrote: »
    I was informed by a trainer in Templemore that January was pushed back, due to not having enough numbers.

    They had a meeting yesterday morning and came to that conclusion, however there were PCT's in December, so if there is a high pass rate there is a chance it could happen in February.
    Nice one fingers crossed so


  • Registered Users Posts: 87 ✭✭wizardofdodge


    I notice people on this or other threads have said they have failed an element of the PCT and have been invited to return and repeat it.
    Is this true?
    I passed mine first time round but as a year had passed I will have to repeat it again and just wondering if I have a safety net so to speak as I believe the turn around from the invite to when you do it is of short notice


  • Registered Users Posts: 132 ✭✭paddyCPW


    I notice people on this or other threads have said they have failed an element of the PCT and have been invited to return and repeat it.
    Is this true?
    I passed mine first time round but as a year had passed I will have to repeat it again and just wondering if I have a safety net so to speak as I believe the turn around from the invite to when you do it is of short notice

    You have three chances at the PCT, two re-sets and one appeal.

    May I ask why it took a year between your PCT ? Is it due to vetting??


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