The Donald is perhaps definitely kinda NOT coming to Ireland

Sofiztikated

I see this thread is going exactly the way I thought it would.

Kermit.de.frog

OP-ed published in New York Times by anonymous insider in the White House

https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-09-05/nyt-publishes-anonymous-op-ed-saboteur-inside-trump-white-house

The Times today is taking the rare step of publishing an anonymous Op-Ed essay. We have done so at the request of the author, a senior official in the Trump administration whose identity is known to us and whose job would be jeopardized by its disclosure. We believe publishing this essay anonymously is the only way to deliver an important perspective to our readers. We invite you to submit a question about the essay or our vetting process here.

we believe our first duty is to this country, and the president continues to act in a manner that is detrimental to the health of our republic.

That is why many Trump appointees have vowed to do what we can to preserve our democratic institutions while thwarting Mr. Trump’s more misguided impulses until he is out of office.

Meetings with him veer off topic and off the rails, he engages in repetitive rants, and his impulsiveness results in half-baked, ill-informed and occasionally reckless decisions that have to be walked back.

https://twitter.com/PeterAlexander/status/1037429805141172225

mcmoustache

Kermit.de.frog wrote: »

OP-ed published in New York Times by anonymous insider in the White House

https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-09-05/nyt-publishes-anonymous-op-ed-saboteur-inside-trump-white-house








https://twitter.com/PeterAlexander/status/1037429805141172225

The op-ed from the administration staff member basically calls him a thick cnut who is unfit for the office and has to be contained. These are people he appointed. That people admire this guy who Rex Tillerson called a "fcuking moron" says a lot.

SEPT 23 1989

Anonymous insiders?

New York Times?

rossie1977

SEPT 23 1989 wrote: »

Anonymous insiders?

New York Times?

Treason

https://twitter.com/SebGorka/status/1037449338891501569

Dannyriver

rossie1977 wrote: »

Treason

https://twitter.com/SebGorka/status/1037449338891501569

Ignore the message shoot the messenger ...brilliant

Kermit.de.frog

Yes, let's see what John Kelly thinks of the president as per Bob Woodward's new book

qwerty ui op

It must be close to the end now, the author of the op-ed knows full well the strong chances of them being found out, whats in it for him/her?  they just wanna be in the newly forming, "we did it for the greater good" camp.
He won't be coming here, not as POTUS anyway, I'll give him a fortnight, his resignation speech will be epic better than anything we've seen yet.

Kidchameleon

Deleted User wrote: »

Sure educate us then on what media we should be harvesting if we want avoid fake news?

I consume all media available to me, including the mainstream. I then come to my own conclusions based on the verifiable evidence. You can tell someone only reads the rag headlines if you listen to what they say about Trump. Where do you get your news? I'm also still waiting on another poster to answer that question.

dwayneshintzy

Kidchameleon wrote: »

I consume all media available to me, including the mainstream. I then come to my own conclusions based on the verifiable evidence. You can tell someone only reads the rag headlines if you listen to what they say about Trump. Where do you get your news? I'm also still waiting on another poster to answer that question.

What are some of the things people say about Trump that prove to you they haven't a clue, then?

How do you decide what evidence is verifiable, by the way? I've heard Trump supporters completely discount the NYT, CNN, Washington Post, etc. as worthy news sources at all. How do you decide what stories from those outlets are based on actual evidence, instead of summarily dismissing them?

Myself, I'll read the NYT, Washington Post, Guardian, Irish Times and then aggregators on top of that (usually via Reddit). I also quite frequently check out Fox News and Breitbart, just to see their take/spin on things.

Jelle1880

I absolutely love the fact that in 2013 Trump tweeded 'Only the Obama WH can get away with attacking Bob Woodward'

MonkeyTennis

If I ever do something shady please dont let Sebastian Gorka come to my defense

ohnonotgmail

rossie1977 wrote: »

Treason

https://twitter.com/SebGorka/status/1037449338891501569

I love how he assumes the insider isnt kelly.

MonkeyTennis

Trump put up Kellys denial he called him and idiot from the last time he called him and idiot not from the book,

mcmoustache

SEPT 23 1989 wrote: »

Anonymous insiders?

New York Times?

Well, Trump believes it's true.

https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1037464177269514240

While at the same time he tries to convince his marks that it isn't.

https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1037485664433070080

Then again, this is the guy who tells his rubes:

“Just remember, what you’re seeing and what you’re reading is not what’s happening…”

So, if you're making the case that the NYT just made this up, fair play to you. That takes some something, whatever it is.

Princess Consuela Bananahammock

Kidchameleon wrote: »

I consume all media available to me, including the mainstream. I then come to my own conclusions based on the verifiable evidence. You can tell someone only reads the rag headlines if you listen to what they say about Trump. Where do you get your news? I'm also still waiting on another poster to answer that question.

... doesn't answer the question: what media sources do you trust?

Personally, I don't trust any of them; but am forming the opinion that there's a bit too much for it all to be fake. Also, based on watching the man in interveiws and news conferences, the accusations would be totally in line with the characteristics he's displayed.

But, obviously, that's not based on media, that's based on directly watching reading and lsitening to Trump. Case in point: does Trump encourage violence or is it fake news? Well, there are plenty of videos on youtube of him doing directly that in rallies, so it;s not even news, fake or otherwise. It's fact.

Timberrrrrrrr

Kidchameleon wrote: »

I consume all media available to me, including the mainstream. I then come to my own conclusions based on the verifiable evidence. You can tell someone only reads the rag headlines if you listen to what they say about Trump. Where do you get your news? I'm also still waiting on another poster to answer that question.

So based on the above, when DT tells a blatant lie at a rally, i mean one of those real porkies that he is famous for, and you see it on all of the media that you consume. Have you ever come to the conclusion that he a liar, a narcissist and downright rotten to the core?

Taytoland

Princess Consuela Bananahammock wrote: »

Kidchameleon wrote: »

I consume all media available to me, including the mainstream. I then come to my own conclusions based on the verifiable evidence. You can tell someone only reads the rag headlines if you listen to what they say about Trump. Where do you get your news? I'm also still waiting on another poster to answer that question.

... doesn't answer the question: what media sources do you trust?

Personally, I don't trust any of them; but am forming the opinion that there's a bit too much for it all to be fake. Also, based on watching the man in interveiws and news conferences, the accusations would be totally in line with the characteristics he's displayed.

But, obviously, that's not based on media, that's based on directly watching reading and lsitening to Trump. Case in point: does Trump encourage violence or is it fake news? Well, there are plenty of videos on youtube of him doing directly that in rallies, so it;s not even news, fake or otherwise. It's fact.

Just most of it.

ELM327

It really says something about the different mentality between liberals and conservatives , when conservatives didnt start spreading all this rubbish when Barack Hussein Obama was in office but yet the liberals and liberal media outlets seem determined to bad mouth Trump.

Doesn't matter anyway it all fuels the trump train so to speak, as Trump and those who support him don't care about the stuff reported and it actually helps Trump in the 2020 race, fuelling the "us vs them" mentality even further.

ohnonotgmail

ELM327 wrote: »

It really says something about the different mentality between liberals and conservatives , when conservatives didnt start spreading all this rubbish when Barack Hussein Obama was in office but yet the liberals and liberal media outlets seem determined to bad mouth Trump.

Doesn't matter anyway it all fuels the trump train so to speak, as Trump and those who support him don't care about the stuff reported and it actually helps Trump in the 2020 race, fuelling the "us vs them" mentality even further.

You mean the conservative media that were obsessed with the birther nonsense and that Obama was a muslim? that conservative media?

WinnyThePoo

ELM327 wrote: »

It really says something about the different mentality between liberals and conservatives , when conservatives didnt start spreading all this rubbish when Barack Hussein Obama was in office but yet the liberals and liberal media outlets seem determined to bad mouth Trump.

Doesn't matter anyway it all fuels the trump train so to speak, as Trump and those who support him don't care about the stuff reported and it actually helps Trump in the 2020 race, fuelling the "us vs them" mentality even further.

Why do you keep referring to Barack Obama as 'Barack Hussein Obama'?

Don't forget people in the white house and are you being willfully ignorant to what comes out of Trumps mouth?.

There won't be a Trump 2020 campaign.

one armed dwarf

It's just a nice fun dog whistle is all, Obama is secretly a muslim yada yada

ELM327

ohnonotgmail wrote: »

You mean the conservative media that were obsessed with the birther nonsense and that Obama was a muslim? that conservative media?

I'm not opening that chestnut here. But research his upbringing and paternal influence and you'll see where it came from

WinnyThePoo wrote: »

Why do you keep referring to Barack Obama as 'Barack Hussein Obama'?

That's his name?

WinnyThePoo wrote: »

Don't forget people in the white house and are you being willfully ignorant to what comes out of Trumps mouth?.

What are people in the white house being ignorant to?

WinnyThePoo wrote: »

There won't be a Trump 2020 campaign.

Well, looking at the democrat mooted candidates I agree, there won't need to be a campaign, it will be a cakewalk for The Donald.

MonkeyTennis

The media and 'liberals' also constantly call out Trump because he lies constantly, tweets gibberish constantly and in interviews displays a dangerous ignorance of little things like the law and oh I dunno, the constitution.

Taytoland

Trump will whip anyone he comes up against. Unstoppable.

MonkeyTennis

He cant even fire people to their face. Tough guy me hole.

WinnyThePoo

ELM327 wrote: »

I'm not opening that chestnut here. But research his upbringing and paternal influence and you'll see where it came from



That's his name?


What are people in the white house being ignorant to?






Well, looking at the democrat mooted candidates I agree, there won't need to be a campaign, it will be a cakewalk for The Donald.

Excuse me if you didn't understand the second bolded part.

People in his own administration are bad mouthing him. Calling him an idiot and a moron.

Again , there won't be a Trump 2020 campaign. The GOP knows what coming, the Democrats know whats coming and Trump knows whats coming.The people who proudly have Trump stickers on their cars can stick their fingers in their ears all they want but the complete desolation of Donald Trump is getting nearer and nearer.

Remember to wash your fingers, earwax is mank.

ohnonotgmail

MonkeyTennis wrote: »

He cant even fire people to their face. Tough guy me hole.

what else would you expect from cadet Bone Spurs.

Taytoland

WinnyThePoo wrote: »

ELM327 wrote: »

I'm not opening that chestnut here. But research his upbringing and paternal influence and you'll see where it came from



That's his name?


What are people in the white house being ignorant to?






Well, looking at the democrat mooted candidates I agree, there won't need to be a campaign, it will be a cakewalk for The Donald.

Excuse me if you didn't understand the second bolded part.

People in his own administration are bad mouthing him. Calling him an idiot and a moron.

Again , there won't be a Trump 2020 campaign. The GOP knows what coming, the Democrats know whats coming and Trump knows whats coming.The people who proudly have Trump stickers on their cars can stick their fingers in their ears all they want but the complete desolation of Donald Trump is getting nearer and nearer.

Remember to wash your fingers, earwax is mank.

They can insult him all they want. He made it to the very top of the ladder in American life, period. And they all doubted him, said it was impossible, laughed when he said he would run for President and look at what happened. I don't know what it says about all these political genius candidates and commentators in the US who insult Trump and yet he whipped all of them when it counted, at the ballot box.

Mutant z

The dems don't appear to have any useful candidates i can't see anything but a 2nd Trump term unless the dems can somehow pluck a strong candidate from somewhere which unfortunately for them doesn't appear to be the case.