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    #1502
    VicMackey1
    Registered Users Posts: 253 ✭✭VicMackey1


    hcf500 wrote: »
    How are you going to defend Carl Benjamin saying that it was ok to rape young boys! Anyone that says something should not be allowed to stand for election. They should be locked up

    CONTEXT! That is not what he said!! So anyone right of left should no be allowed to stand for election. That is fascism 101!


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    #1503
    splashuum
    Registered Users Posts: 519 ✭✭✭splashuum


    Barney the dinasour would be labeled an “extremist” in this current climate.
    Nigel Farage’s party is about to romp the EU elections and I’m sure the majority here would call him a “fascist”.

    If “fascists”/“racists” like Trump and Nigel are so popular? Does that mean the majority of the UK and USA are all right wing extremists ? ðŸ˜


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    #1504
    ohnonotgmail
    Registered Users Posts: 40,309 ✭✭✭✭ohnonotgmail


    splashuum wrote: »
    Barney the dinasour would be labeled an “extremist” in this current climate.
    Nigel Farage’s party is about to romp the EU elections and I’m sure the majority here would call him a “fascist”.

    If fascist/racists like Trump and Nigel are so popular? Does that mean the majority of the UK and USA are all right wing extremists ? ðŸ˜

    You mean the Nigel that failed to get elected as an MP i think 8 times now? Fierce popular altogether.


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    #1505
    KSU
    Registered Users Posts: 946 ✭✭✭KSU


    ohnonotgmail wrote: »
    You mean the Nigel that failed to get elected as an MP i think 8 times now? Fierce popular altogether.

    Aren't his new Brexit party topping the opinion polls currently in the UK?


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    #1506
    splashuum
    Registered Users Posts: 519 ✭✭✭splashuum


    ohnonotgmail wrote: »
    splashuum wrote: »
    Barney the dinasour would be labeled an “extremist” in this current climate.
    Nigel Farage’s party is about to romp the EU elections and I’m sure the majority here would call him a “fascist”.

    If fascist/racists like Trump and Nigel are so popular? Does that mean the majority of the UK and USA are all right wing extremists ? ðŸ˜

    You mean the Nigel that failed to get elected as an MP i think 8 times now? Fierce popular altogether.

    Your obviously not keeping up with modern politics so not worth debating with.


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    #1507
    Billy86
    Closed Accounts Posts: 23,495 ✭✭✭✭Billy86


    VicMackey1 wrote: »
    CONTEXT! That is not what he said!! So anyone right of left should no be allowed to stand for election. That is fascism 101!
    https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.theguardian.com/politics/2019/may/07/police-investigating-ukip-candidate-youtube-carl-benjamin-jess-phillip
    Benjamin, who is known online as Sargon of Akkad, uploaded a clip to YouTube last month where he added to his original comments.

    He said: “There’s been an awful lot of talk about whether I would or wouldn’t rape Jess Phillips. I suppose with enough pressure I might cave, but let’s be honest nobody’s got that much beer.”

    "He was only joking!" in 3... 2... 1...

    Wash. Rinse. Repeat.


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    #1508
    VicMackey1
    Registered Users Posts: 253 ✭✭VicMackey1


    Billy86 wrote: »
    https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.theguardian.com/politics/2019/may/07/police-investigating-ukip-candidate-youtube-carl-benjamin-jess-phillip
    Benjamin, who is known online as Sargon of Akkad, uploaded a clip to YouTube last month where he added to his original comments.

    He said: “There’s been an awful lot of talk about whether I would or wouldn’t rape Jess Phillips. I suppose with enough pressure I might cave, but let’s be honest nobody’s got that much beer.”

    "He was only joking!" in 3... 2... 1...

    Wash. Rinse. Repeat.

    Thats not what I posted about. I posted about the supposed comment "its ok to rape young boys". Whats your view on that?


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    #1509
    Billy86
    Closed Accounts Posts: 23,495 ✭✭✭✭Billy86


    splashuum wrote: »
    Barney the dinasour would be labeled an “extremist” in this current climate.

    Hate to break it to you, but right wingers have already been there since the 1990s when it comes to the "gay, commie, liberal agenda" man in a pink dinosaur suit.


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    #1510
    Billy86
    Closed Accounts Posts: 23,495 ✭✭✭✭Billy86


    VicMackey1 wrote: »
    Thats not what I posted about. I posted about the supposed comment "its ok to rape young boys". Whats your view on that?

    Reprehensible if true, though I've not read much on it.

    What's your view on him saying he would rape a woman if he had enough encouragement?


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    #1511
    Dohnjoe
    Registered Users Posts: 17,815 ✭✭✭✭Dohnjoe


    VicMackey1 wrote: »
    Thats not what I posted about. I posted about the supposed comment "its ok to rape young boys". Whats your view on that?

    So you have an excuse or "context" for the below comment? If not, do you think there is anything wrong with the below?

    “There’s been an awful lot of talk about whether I would or wouldn’t rape Jess Phillips. I suppose with enough pressure I might cave, but let’s be honest nobody’s got that much beer.”


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    #1512
    4068ac1elhodqr
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    ohnonotgmail wrote: »
    You mean the Nigel that failed to get elected as an MP i think 8 times now? Fierce popular altogether.

    Regardless of what you/anyone personally thinks, sensible logic now dictates that TBP are now clear favourites in the EE in the UK (to win most seats).

    I backed them at 2.2 last month, if you were to walk into any bookie today for your 100 investment the most you'd get back in total would be 117.
    The majority would only offer you 1.05 (5 profit for every 100 speculated).

    Less likely, but also have NF to become their PM during 2019 at 67.0, just for the bantz. (Avg price today is 23.0).

    It's the many folks who hold unrealistic hard/skewed left views that help me benefit from actual reality when it arrives. Still laugh to this day, at getting 1,000% ROI (live exchange/book variance) on Trump's election night. Many thanks!


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    #1513
    ohnonotgmail
    Registered Users Posts: 40,309 ✭✭✭✭ohnonotgmail


    splashuum wrote: »
    Your obviously not keeping up with modern politics so not worth debating with.

    remind me what elections he has won recently?


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    #1514
    ohnonotgmail
    Registered Users Posts: 40,309 ✭✭✭✭ohnonotgmail


    Lilah Defeated Pediatrics wrote: »
    Regardless of what you/anyone personally thinks, sensible logic now dictates that TBP are now clear favourites in the EE in the UK (to win most seats).

    I backed them at 2.2 last month, if you were to walk into any bookie today for your 100 investment the most you'd get back in total would be 117.
    The majority would only offer you 1.05 (5 profit for every 100 speculated).

    Less likely, but also have NF to become their PM during 2019 at 67.0, just for the bantz. (Avg price today is 23.0).

    It's the many folks who hold unrealistic hard/skewed left views that help me benefit from actual reality when it arrives. Still laugh to this day, at getting 1,000% ROI (live exchange/book variance) on Trump's election night. Many thanks!

    win seats to a parliament they are against and will be leaving soon?


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    #1515
    Sweetemotion
    Registered Users Posts: 2,497 ✭✭✭Sweetemotion


    ohnonotgmail wrote: »
    win seats to a parliament they are against and will be leaving soon?

    That's exactly why they have people voting for them :confused:


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    #1516
    Outlaw Pete
    Registered Users Posts: 10,423 ✭✭✭✭Outlaw Pete


    mcmoustache wrote: »
    Today is the day he truly became President.

    To some, maybe, but most everyone else accepted it the day of his inauguration.
    ancapailldorcha wrote: »
    None of these people are far right IMO.

    But the people that share videos from them are?? That's essentially what you're suggesting.
    ancapailldorcha wrote: »
    Ultimately though, it's a creed based on feelings and the validation of said feelings. There's a reason videos from the likes of Jordan Peterson, Ben Shapiro are so widely shared. They give these people that special feeling of being right.

    These people? So people who share a Shapiro video are far right supporters now? And when they do share their videos (to support their argument) they only feel right? lol
    It takes little and the arguments presented rely heavily on lazy generalisatons at best and outright nastiness and threats at worst.

    Look who's talking. You're posting some pretty big generallistaltions your self there, chief.


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    #1517
    mcmoustache
    Registered Users Posts: 7,236 ✭✭✭mcmoustache


    hcf500 wrote: »
    All it takes is proper good research and fact checking and you can easily discredit these Nazis. People are easily fooled


    Unfortunately we live in a time where you can point at a guy wearing a swastica armband, giving a roman salute to a black guy swinging from a tree and if you call him racist, people, including in here, will argue with you.


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    #1518
    Billy86
    Closed Accounts Posts: 23,495 ✭✭✭✭Billy86


    mcmoustache wrote: »
    Unfortunately we live in a time where you can point at a guy wearing a swastica armband, giving a roman salute to a black guy swinging from a tree and if you call him racist, people, including in here, will argue with you.

    Well to be fair, that white robe and hood was taken out of context. It was a joke to do with laundry day, and you're a fascist for not agreeing with that! And when you really think about it mcmoustache, doesn't that make you the racist?


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    #1519
    VicMackey1
    Registered Users Posts: 253 ✭✭VicMackey1


    Dohnjoe wrote: »
    So you have an excuse or "context" for the below comment? If not, do you think there is anything wrong with the below?

    “There’s been an awful lot of talk about whether I would or wouldn’t rape Jess Phillips. I suppose with enough pressure I might cave, but let’s be honest nobody’s got that much beer.”

    I think it is a bit distasteful but no different to something that Frankie Boyle might say! It is obvious that he is not being serious and trying instead to be funny (nobodys got that much beer). Whether you find it funny or not, censoring somebody because of a rape joke is a step too far. Should we censor Ricky Gervais too? Comedy would get very dull if its content is restricted!


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    #1520
    Billy86
    Closed Accounts Posts: 23,495 ✭✭✭✭Billy86


    VicMackey1 wrote: »
    I think it is a bit distasteful but no different to something that Frankie Boyle might say! It is obvious that he is not being serious and trying instead to be funny (nobodys got that much beer). Whether you find it funny or not, censoring somebody because of a rape joke is a step too far. Should we censor Ricky Gervais too? Comedy would get very dull if its content is restricted!
    Oh, so it was all only a joke when he threatened to rape a political opponent?

    Well that certainly wasn't predictable.


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    #1521
    Dohnjoe
    Registered Users Posts: 17,815 ✭✭✭✭Dohnjoe


    VicMackey1 wrote: »
    I think it is a bit distasteful but no different to something that Frankie Boyle might say! It is obvious that he is not being serious and trying instead to be funny (nobodys got that much beer). Whether you find it funny or not, censoring somebody because of a rape joke is a step too far. Should we censor Ricky Gervais too? Comedy would get very dull if its content is restricted!

    How do you tell the difference between a comedian and a political commentator who tries to "disguise" vile views with jokes?


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    #1522
    VicMackey1
    Registered Users Posts: 253 ✭✭VicMackey1


    A couple of days ago twitter banned an account which made parody videos of Alexandria Ocasio Cortez. They are cracking down on comedy now! In fairness though, she is a parody of herself!


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    #1523
    VicMackey1
    Registered Users Posts: 253 ✭✭VicMackey1


    Billy86 wrote: »
    Oh, so it was all only a joke when he threatened to rape a political opponent?

    Well that certainly wasn't predictable.

    Seriously! You really think that was a genuine threat? If it was, he wouldn't be a very good rapist! Telling the whole world his plans of rape!

    Just to be clear. I dont think any rapists are good!


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    #1524
    VicMackey1
    Registered Users Posts: 253 ✭✭VicMackey1


    Dohnjoe wrote: »
    How do you tell the difference between a comedian and a political commentator who tries to "disguise" vile views with jokes?

    Tell me. Whats the punch line?


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    #1525
    Dohnjoe
    Registered Users Posts: 17,815 ✭✭✭✭Dohnjoe


    VicMackey1 wrote: »
    Tell me. Whats the punch line?

    Simple question, how do you know the difference?


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    #1526
    VicMackey1
    Registered Users Posts: 253 ✭✭VicMackey1


    Dohnjoe wrote: »
    Simple question, how do you know the difference?

    Cant a person be a comedian and a political commentator?


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    #1527
    20Cent
    Registered Users Posts: 8,934 ✭✭✭20Cent


    VicMackey1 wrote: »
    Cant a person be a comedian and a political commentator?

    How does one know when they are serious and when they are joking though?


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    #1528
    batgoat
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,423 ✭✭✭batgoat


    VicMackey1 wrote: »
    Cant a person be a comedian and a political commentator?

    Tbh, making the "joke" that he made just makes him sound like a dullard and scumbag. Do you think it's funny?


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    #1529
    VicMackey1
    Registered Users Posts: 253 ✭✭VicMackey1


    hcf500 wrote: »
    Reading back on some of this thread I see Antifa getting a lot of abuse. They are not a violent gang like the proud boys. They are there for peaceful protest but what are they supposed to do when they are attacked by a bunch of goons?

    Antifa>Peaceful. You must be joking!


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    #1530
    Billy86
    Closed Accounts Posts: 23,495 ✭✭✭✭Billy86


    VicMackey1 wrote: »
    Seriously! You really think that was a genuine threat? If it was, he wouldn't be a very good rapist! Telling the whole world his plans of rape!

    Just to be clear. I dont think any rapists are good!

    It was a very, very obvious threat: keep opposing me and bad things will happen. It's the standard go-to for the odern far right, followed by "I was only joking!" followed by playing the victim card.

    Over and over and over again. Almost like they're going off a playbook, or style guide, or something...


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    #1531
    VicMackey1
    Registered Users Posts: 253 ✭✭VicMackey1


    Billy86 wrote: »
    It was a very, very obvious threat: keep opposing me and bad things will happen. It's the standard go-to for the odern far right, followed by "I was only joking!" followed by playing the victim card.

    Over and over and over again. Almost like they're going off a playbook, or style guide, or something...

    It was a comment he made 3 years ago when he had no intention of running for MEP! The media brought it up again looking for an apology. How could it have had anything to do with opposing her!


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