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stefanovich

FrostyJack wrote: »

You cannot be fascist and be left leaning, it is the definition of right wing ideology. The same way you can't be a true communionist and be right leaning. Look it up in a dictionary. How the Nazi's came up with the name national socialist was to trick people like you into thinking that is what they were. North Korea is call the Democratic People's Republic of Korea, is that a democratic society or is it just a name? If you pick up a history book or dictionary you may have your mind blown.

You can self identify as left and behave like a fascist.

Timberrrrrrrr

ohnonotgmail wrote: »

why do far right supporters always sound so angry?

They can't put what they want to say into words, it must be hard being a racist and trying to explain why you are a racist without sounding like a racist and so they get frustrated.

ohnonotgmail

stefanovich wrote: »

Which one is Gavin? Or is it purely guilt by association?

He took part in the same march. If you march with nazis and espouse facist views then, yes, people are going to think you are a facist.

FrostyJack

stefanovich wrote: »

You can self identify as left and behave like a fascist.

You can if you are contradicting yourself. Fascism is literally right wing ideology, not all right leaning people are fascists but all fascists are literally right leaning.

VicMackey1

stefanovich wrote: »

Which one is Gavin? Or is it purely guilt by association?

Gavin McInnes actually disavowed the unite the right rally about 2 months before it took place. He urged proud boy members not to attend it.

Hector Savage

stefanovich wrote: »

Which one is Gavin? Or is it purely guilt by association?

Honest question, do you see these guys (bunch of losers) as a REAL threat globally in 2019 ??

Timberrrrrrrr

luckyluke87 wrote: »

Typical leftist, using words but don't know what's mean.
You can lick your balls to the end of your life and think that's great achievement.
Call everyone who you disagree far right etc.
Being hypocrite, full of lies, vote for socialist
Just maybe read more learn something read some books not leftist leaflets and think that only you are right
Ban people in the name of free speech.
Bye.

You really don't see the irony here do you?

Timberrrrrrrr

Hector Savage wrote: »

And there it is, the authoritarian fascist left.

How?

I want to see him a broken man because of the suffering and pain he has caused others, i believe in Karma and hopefully he gets a good dose of it soon. I dont want him to be any of the above because of his beliefs, i want it because he is a nasty person who deserves a taste of his own medicine!

How does that make me authoritarian, fascist or left?

Timberrrrrrrr

Hector Savage wrote: »

Honest question, do you see these guys (bunch of losers) as a REAL threat globally in 2019 ??

Nope, i don't see the muppets who marched down oconnell street recently as a threat to peace in Ireland either. I still don't think they should be allowed to march though.

Hector Savage

Timberrrrrrrr wrote: »

Nope, i don't see the muppets who marched down oconnell street recently as a threat to peace in Ireland either. I still don't think they should be allowed to march though.

I agree I wouldn't want them to march, for keeping the peace reasons.
But there are dopes that will say this is the greatest threat to security in the west in the coming years.

ohnonotgmail

Hector Savage wrote: »

I agree I wouldn't want them to march, for keeping the peace reasons.
But there are dopes that will say this is the greatest threat to security in the west in the coming years.

who are these "dopes" and what exactly do you mean by "this"?

Timberrrrrrrr

Hector Savage wrote: »

I agree I wouldn't want them to march, for keeping the peace reasons.
But there are dopes that will say this is the greatest threat to security in the west in the coming years.

The greatest threat to the west is the west.

MrFresh

Hector Savage wrote: »

I agree I wouldn't want them to march, for keeping the peace reasons.
But there are dopes that will say this is the greatest threat to security in the west in the coming years.

Greatest threat to democracy and human rights maybe.

Former Observer

So much facepalm in this thread.

hcf500

Former Observer wrote: »

So much facepalm in this thread.

And facsists!

KerryGoat

to be fair the guy said some awful/absurd things it was only a matter of time before someone thought he would overstep the line.

hcf500

KerryGoat wrote: »

to be fair the guy said some awful/absurd things it was only a matter of time before someone thought he would overstep the line.

Who?

hcf500

Tommy Robinson and Carl Benjamin have both had their twitter accounts suspended. They are vile right wing Nazis and should not be given any platform to speak. Benjamin says "its ok to rape young boys"!

Dohnjoe

Hector Savage wrote: »

I agree I wouldn't want them to march, for keeping the peace reasons.
But there are dopes that will say this is the greatest threat to security in the west in the coming years.

What's the name of the fallacy again, the one where you try to validate something by claiming "well, it isnt the greatest threat to mankind"..

It's fascist neo-nazi ****, stop making excuses for it. Whether someone comes straight out with it or whether someone like McInnes "dresses" it up with jokes - it's the same vile motivations underneath

Dohnjoe

hcf500 wrote: »

Tommy Robinson and Carl Benjamin have both had their twitter accounts suspended. They are vile right wing Nazis and should not be given any platform to speak. Benjamin says "its ok to rape young boys"!

"They are just being taken out of context"

"Just because someone devotes their entire life fixated on race and immigrants and associates with white supremacists and neo-nazi's doesn't mean they agree with them! look he strategically disassociates with them here! and look he said "just kidding" there! and observe how they have some black members!"

Sorry I know it's bit crude, but I am just picking up this new age far-right apologism thing

VicMackey1

Dohnjoe wrote: »

"They are just being taken out of context"

"Just because someone devotes their entire life fixated on race and immigrants and associates with white supremacists and neo-nazi's doesn't mean they agree with them! look he strategically disassociates with them here! and look he said "just kidding" there! and observe how they have some black members!"

Sorry I know it's bit crude, but I am just picking up this new age far-right apologism thing

lol. Carl Benjamin is suing The Sun and the Daily Mail for alleging that he made these comments! They went even further than just taking it out of context. They picked quotes from about 4 or 5 different videos by Carl Benjamin and stitched them together to portray it as 1 entire quote! There is a video by Carl Benjamin in which he highlights each quote that was stitched together but I won't bother posting that.

@hfc500 Maybe you should find better sources than The Sun and The Daily Mail!

MrFresh

Dohnjoe wrote: »

What's the name of the fallacy again, the one where you try to validate something by claiming "well, it isnt the greatest threat to mankind"..

It's fascist neo-nazi ****, stop making excuses for it. Whether someone comes straight out with it or whether someone like McInnes "dresses" it up with jokes - it's the same vile motivations underneath

Relative Privation

hcf500

VicMackey1 wrote: »

lol. Carl Benjamin is suing The Sun and the Daily Mail for alleging that he made these comments! They went even further than just taking it out of context. They picked quotes from about 4 or 5 different videos by Carl Benjamin and stitched them together to portray it as 1 entire quote! There is a video by Carl Benjamin in which he highlights each quote that was stitched together but I won't bother posting that.

@hfc500 Maybe you should find better sources than The Sun and The Daily Mail!

Doesn't really matter. Those were quotes from him! If he said it, he said it! How can the comment "its ok to rape young boys" be twisted to make it look any worse for him? You really need to take off the blinkers.

Billy86

hcf500 wrote: »

Tommy Robinson and Carl Benjamin have both had their twitter accounts suspended. They are vile right wing Nazis and should not be given any platform to speak. Benjamin says "its ok to rape young boys"!

And Tommy has a history of defending the type who rape young boys.

Just so long as they're white.

MrFresh

VicMackey1 wrote: »

That sh*te is taken out of context completely. People should be very wary of how videos are edited. The Covington High School video being a perfect example Maybe you should look up the person that posted that video, Vic Berger

I had a look at the video. First, it hardly addresses anything in the other video. Second, the context of what it does address doesn't improve anything. Third, it's basically just an attack on the video maker of the first vido. That's called an ad hominem attack. It's purpose is to draw attention away from the substance of the video. It attempts to do so pretty poorly.

VicMackey1

MrFresh wrote: »

I had a look at the video. First, it hardly addresses anything in the other video. Second, the context of what it does address doesn't improve anything. Third, it's basically just an attack on the video maker of the first vido. That's called an ad hominem attack. It's purpose is to draw attention away from the substance of the video. It attempts to do so pretty poorly.

Did you look at part 2? The long one. Its addresses every clip!

MrFresh

VicMackey1 wrote: »

Did you look at part 2? The long one. Its addresses every clip!

I'm two minutes into that one and he is currently comparing being a Trump supporter to being a black person fighting against segregation. So far, context not really doing much.

splashuum

Basically anyone who opposes a leftists opinion is a Nazi. They will be a laughing stock for many many years to come.

PopePalpatine

MrFresh wrote: »

I'm two minutes into that one and he is currently comparing being a Trump supporter to being a black person fighting against segregation. So far, context not really doing much.

Don't you know irony causes unfaithfulness in the females?

Sonics2k

splashuum wrote: »

Basically anyone who opposes a leftists opinion is a Nazi. They will be a laughing stock for many many years to come.

Man that's so weird. Just earlier some guy was saying the Nazi's were leftists.

It's good to know we get around and have friends I guess.