Deirdre Jacob missing twenty years Today.

smelly sock

Nothing more on this. Went quiet.

Guardai clutching at straws.

The_Kew_Tour

smelly sock wrote: »

Nothing more on this. Went quiet.

Guardai clutching at straws.

How do you know?

smelly sock

https://m.independent.ie/irish-news/significant-new-leads-in-deirdre-jacob-murder-probe-37392123.html

hollymartins

Not related to Deirdre but a huge breakthrough in another missing person

https://m.independent.ie/irish-news/partial-remains-identified-as-those-of-man-20-missing-since-2000-37449635.html

smelly sock

hollymartins wrote: »

Not related to Deirdre but a huge breakthrough in another missing person

https://m.independent.ie/irish-news/partial-remains-identified-as-those-of-man-20-missing-since-2000-37449635.html

Yeh amazing to think the remains were found thst long ago.

hollymartins

I know, I wonder why the delay in testing the remains?

At the family have some closure and can have a burial, although still many questions as to what it happened to the poor young man

Dr Strange

Interestingly, some of these issues have only been recently discussed in the Seanad:

Originally Posted by Minister for Justice and Equality wrote:

Senator Burke proposes that I should “establish a new section for unidentified human remains which will centralise information and streamline the identification process”. He has previously submitted to me, a proposal from a well-respected Forensic Anthropologist that a Forensic Human Remains Identification Specialist position be established and located within the Department’s ambit.

Full text here: http://www.justice.ie/en/JELR/Pages/SP18000309

If they really are going to do something proactive about it remains to be seen.

smelly sock

hollymartins wrote: »

I know, I wonder why the delay in testing the remains?

At the family have some closure and can have a burial, although still many questions as to what it happened to the poor young man

I think from reading the article is that DNA extraction had advanced but not enough to let them test these remains up until now.

You'd have to wonder how many other remains are lying in a morgue that could give families closure.

Dr Strange

smelly sock wrote: »

I think from reading the article is that DNA extraction had advanced but not enough to let them test these remains up until now.

You'd have to wonder how many other remains are lying in a morgue that could give families closure.

That’s exactly the problem addressed by the proposal with the Dept of Justice at the moment. A centralised database of all bodies, body parts and bones unidentified throughout the country to be headed by a human remains identification specialist to act as a point of contact and advice for Gardai, Coroners, families and the public in general.

It seems it’s aimed at coordinating all identification efforts with modern technologies and provide comprehensive data on all cases. The way I read this would mean a dedicated person or office that will only deal with unidentified and missing cases to free up time for other forensic people.

chicorytip

hollymartins wrote:

At the family have some closure and can have a burial, although still many questions as to what it happened to the poor young man

It appears more likely now that he took his own life rather than died at the hands of others.

Day Lewin

From what I can tell by Google Maps, this Quay Island is in the Shannon Estuary, well downstream of Limerick city.

The unfortunate lad may have just fallen in: that Shannon is a mighty river and he could have been swept away, and part of the body wash up on the island weeks or months later.

smelly sock

Day Lewin wrote: »

From what I can tell by Google Maps, this Quay Island is in the Shannon Estuary, well downstream of Limerick city.

The unfortunate lad may have just fallen in: that Shannon is a mighty river and he could have been swept away, and part of the body wash up on the island weeks or months later.

Yeh i think with a lot of the young men who have gone missing like gussie suicide or accidental death is the most obvious explanation. Trevor Deely being another where this is probable. Unfortunatley with Deirdre something sinister probably happened.

freshpopcorn

Gardai are travelling to the UK to question Larry.

https://www.irishmirror.ie/news/irish-news/gardai-travel-uk-quiz-chief-13565188?fbclid=IwAR0J9Pr2K-ZhAGmsQn1P1ONZVMklE0HxC6vJcky2xMEcrYV0M1KhGoAdbHU

Raheem Euro

Dr Strange wrote: »

Interestingly, some of these issues have only been recently discussed in the Seanad:



Full text here: justice.ie/en/JELR/Pages/SP18000309

If they really are going to do something proactive about it remains to be seen.

freshpopcorn

freshpopcorn wrote: »

Gardai are travelling to the UK to question Larry.

https://www.irishmirror.ie/news/irish-news/gardai-travel-uk-quiz-chief-13565188?fbclid=IwAR0J9Pr2K-ZhAGmsQn1P1ONZVMklE0HxC6vJcky2xMEcrYV0M1KhGoAdbHU

From that:

“Larry Murphy’s intention is to never come back to Ireland – he is hiding in the UK where no one knows him and that’s where he wants to stay. He has a girlfriend there and is living a quiet life.”

The sheer stupidity of some members of the human race is awe inspiring.

goat2

I wonder do Murphys girlfriend know that he has a deadly past,
It seems to be that the garda think he may have killed Deirdre,

Bigbagofcans

goat2 wrote: »

I wonder do Murphys girlfriend know that he has a deadly past,
It seems to be that the garda think he may have killed Deirdre,

I'd say she does. He hasn't changed his name or anything has he?

How come murderers get girlfriends? The mind boggles

kerry cow

Bigbagofcans wrote:

How come murderers get girlfriends? The mind boggles

he"s a rapists , not proven murderer .

Bigbagofcans

kerry cow wrote: »

he"s a rapists , not proven murderer .

He almost killed that woman so in my eyes he's a murderer. And I'd bet my life on it that he has killed a few women.

Pyr0

kerry cow wrote: »

he"s a rapists , not proven murderer .

Oh! That's alright then.

kerry cow

hollymartins wrote:

I know, I wonder why the delay in testing the remains?

he is a sick ,twisted scum and yes he intended on killing that girl i agree , personally i think.jail is too good for people like that .

Prime Time tomorrow, Thursday 17 January, will have a special on Deirdre's case starting at 9:35pm.

Obvious Desperate Breakfasts

Deirdre Jacobs, along with Philip Cairns, is to me one of the scariest missing person cases in Ireland because they happened in broad daylight in built up areas. Jastine Valdez too, though she’s not missing obviously. But she was snatched in daylight too.

Laois_Man

Will give this a watch tonight

I said in this thread last Summer when it was going strong, I always thought she must have gotten inside the house and then left again with somebody during the following couple of hours - possibly the person who brought her into town!

The fact that Mr. Jacob regularly and explicitly points out that there were a number of witness who saw her walking home, but not one who saw her walking into town, suggest to me that it's a line of thought that he has too.

Laois_Man

And another thought I have always had - it would be interesting to know if there had been any burglaries in the vicinity that afternoon

She may have walked up the driveway, caught people about to break into her home, and they did her some harm.

CiarraiAbu2

Laois_Man wrote: »

And another thought I have always had - it would be interesting to know if there had been any burglaries in the vicinity that afternoon

She may have walked up the driveway, caught people about to break into her home, and they did her some harm.

Think the mother was at home, it really sounds like L Murphy did it, but no proof.

donkeykong5

CiarraiAbu2 wrote: »

Laois_Man wrote: »

And another thought I have always had - it would be interesting to know if there had been any burglaries in the vicinity that afternoon

She may have walked up the driveway, caught people about to break into her home, and they did her some harm.

Think the mother was at home, it really sounds like L Murphy did it, but no proof.

100%agree . It was him.

LETHAL LADY

Feel so sorry for her family after watching it tonight and obviously a victim's family can't take the law into their own hands, but I'd imagine if one were to arrange the kidnap and torture of Murphy for answers that the law mightn't be too hard on you.

LETHAL LADY

LETHAL LADY wrote: »

but I'd imagine if one were to arrange the kidnap and torture of Murphy for answers that the law mightn't be too hard on you.

My god, you really are who you say you are :eek:

Laois_Man

CiarraiAbu2 wrote: »

Think the mother was at home, it really sounds like L Murphy did it, but no proof.

No, her mother wasn't home.

Could have been Larry Murphy
Could have been John Crerar
Could have been lots of people!