Donald Trump is the President Mark IV (Read Mod Warning in OP)

everlast75

20Cent wrote: »

Amazingly the help Trump has given steel and mining hasn't trickled down to the miners and steel workers. The owners are just pocketing the benefits. Looks like there will be strikes.

USW Members Vote Overwhelmingly to Authorize Strike at U.S. Steel
https://www.usw.org/news/media-center/releases/2018/usw-members-vote-overwhelmingly-to-authorize-strike-at-u-s-steel

There is no other word for it - the guy is an utter buffoon.

If he was not born with a silver spoon in his mouth, there is no possibility on god's green earth he would have "made it" in life. In fact, I would wager a considerable sum of money that he would be incarcerated for multiple botched thefts etc.

He cannot do the simplest of tasks.

If this were a script for a TV show, you would not watch it as it would be deemed to be too far fetched.

I think that when all of this has been catalogued, each and every week will be littered with scandals, 75% of which we have probably forgotten about today as there is simply so much of it.

aloyisious

I think that if most GOP voters were to look at Don and his efforts in terms of legislation and other presidents successes, they'd find he's put most of his presidential efforts into overturning, rescinding, annulling and destroying their records [poor deal, bad deal, I can do better] rather than creating something worthwhile which would stand both to his good and that of his fellow citizens. That cant be down to egotism alone so it begs the question: is he a wrecking ball?

dr.fuzzenstein

aloyisious wrote: »

I think that if most GOP voters were to look at Don and his efforts in terms of legislation and other presidents successes, they'd find he's put most of his presidential efforts into overturning, rescinding, annulling and destroying their records [poor deal, bad deal, I can do better] rather than creating something worthwhile which would stand both to his good and that of his fellow citizens. That cant be down to egotism alone so it begs the question: is he a wrecking ball?

His presidency exists for two reasons.
First is trying to demolish every single thing Obama has ever done and second is to pass tax laws that profit him personally. And possibly not in that particular order.
It's basically spite and abuse of power for his own personal gain. It's not even about Rs vs Ds, he doesn't care about either side, they're just vehicles for his agenda to him.
No one who looks even superficially at how he profited from the bust of 3 casinos to enrich himself, burn everyone in the process and boast about how much money he made, can possibly come to any other conclusion.

Quin_Dub

aloyisious wrote: »

I think that if most GOP voters were to look at Don and his efforts in terms of legislation and other presidents successes, they'd find he's put most of his presidential efforts into overturning, rescinding, annulling and destroying their records [poor deal, bad deal, I can do better] rather than creating something worthwhile which would stand both to his good and that of his fellow citizens. That cant be down to egotism alone so it begs the question: is he a wrecking ball?

What he's giving them is control over the judiciary for a generation.. They really couldn't care less about anything else..

He has appointed an enormous amount of lifetime appointment judges that hold very solid right wing (or indeed extreme right wing) viewpoints , so for the evangelicals and the true "conservatives" they are happy to live with the short term pain/embarrassment/ridicule that comes from having an utter imbecile as President as they are playing the long game and see the next 30 years of laws being shaped in their image..

serfboard

Walter Bishop wrote: »

Ah yes, the old 'it's cold today, so global warming is bull****' argument. Perhaps someone could explain the difference between weather and climate to him.

To quote Upton Sinclair, "It's difficult to get a man to understand something, when his income depends upon his not understanding it".

johnnyskeleton

Mod note:

Folks, I've moved some of the posts on the Khashoggi to this thread:

https://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2057918789

It seems like a sufficiently important and discrete issue that discussion of it should take place there. Other Trump topics can remain here!

everlast75

Another plea deal for Mueller....


https://twitter.com/kylegriffin1/status/1066016381408301056?s=19


Stone is next surely.

Gunther1979

Quin_Dub wrote: »

What he's giving them is control over the judiciary for a generation.. They really couldn't care less about anything else..

He has appointed an enormous amount of lifetime appointment judges that hold very solid right wing (or indeed extreme right wing) viewpoints , so for the evangelicals and the true "conservatives" they are happy to live with the short term pain/embarrassment/ridicule that comes from having an utter imbecile as President as they are playing the long game and see the next 30 years of laws being shaped in their image..

thank you finally someone who gets it
it's also important he keeps us out of the wars the obama/clintons were intent on

everlast75

Gunther1979 wrote: »

the wars the obama/clintons were intent on

Please elaborate

everlast75

https://twitter.com/amyspitalnick/status/1066025352554795008?s=19


Jeez. Can't a law abiding president catch a break from any of these judges???

Gunther1979

everlast75 wrote: »

Please elaborate

also had there fingers in libya and syria
lining up 1000,s of us trrops on russian ferderation borders in 2015

duploelabs

Gunther1979 wrote: »

they caused the Maidan in Ukraine,
also had there fingers in libya and syria
lining up 1000,s of us trrops on russian ferderation borders in 2015

Citation please

Gunther1979

duploelabs wrote: »

Citation please

maidan deleted

the only link for the us troops build up is the washpo and i'd rather not click/link that, but i remember it as i'm sure everyone does

syria lybia self explanatory

duploelabs

Gunther1979 wrote: »

maidan deleted

the only link for the us troops build up is the washpo and i'd rather not click/link that, but i remember it as i'm sure everyone does

syria lybia self explanatory

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Gunther1979

the clinton/obama foreign policy led to the Tunisian refugee amis amri driving a truck through berlin winter market,, this time last year, or have you "forgotten"
killing many innocent germans, and horifically inuring many more, the responsibility lies on merkel, clinton ,obama,
and their apologists

thats clintons and obamas fault

everlast75

Gunther1979 wrote: »

thank you finally someone who gets it
it's also important he keeps us out of the wars the obama/clintons were intent on

Well, just off the top of my head - Trump broke the Iran deal, distanced himself with Nato, fell out with long established allies of the US including Canada, UK, France, Mexico etc, all while he aligned himself with Kim Jong Un (despite their increasing of nuclear activity) Putin (despite his interference in the US elections) and MBS (who murdered a US resident journalist).

But tell me more how Obama and Clinton were trouble makers....

Gunther1979

everlast75 wrote: »

Well, just off the top of my head - Trump broke the Iran deal, distanced himself with Nato, fell out with long established allies of the US including Canada, UK, France, Mexico etc, all while he aligned himself with Kim Jong Un (despite their increasing of nuclear activity) Putin (despite his interference in the US elections) and MBS (who murdered a US resident journalist).

But tell me more how Obama and Clinton were trouble makers....

Trump is standing up for white people
shocking isn't it

SScope

It's seems that way doesn't it but shouldn't he be standing up for all Americans whatever their race??

And he's also bending the knee to non whites, as long as they have some cash lying around

Captain Obvious

Gunther1979 wrote: »

the clinton/obama foreign policy led to the Tunisian refugee amis amri driving a truck through berlin winter market,, this time last year, or have you "forgotten"
killing many innocent germans, and horifically inuring many more, the responsibility lies on merkel, clinton ,obama,
and their apologists

thats clintons and obamas fault

Is it not the driver's fault?

Gunther1979 wrote: »

Trump is standing up for white people
shocking isn't it

Standing up for what exactly? What help are white people needing?

dr.fuzzenstein

everlast75 wrote: »

Well, just off the top of my head - Trump broke the Iran deal, distanced himself with Nato, fell out with long established allies of the US including Canada, UK, France, Mexico etc, all while he aligned himself with Kim Jong Un (despite their increasing of nuclear activity) Putin (despite his interference in the US elections) and MBS (who murdered a US resident journalist).

But tell me more how Obama and Clinton were trouble makers....

I wouldn't bother arguing with that guy, I have a feeling he won't be round long...

Professor Moriarty

BTW, apologies to the mod who has to delete my posts.

Captain Obvious

relax carry on wrote: »

Off topic I know but honestly I'm fascinated by individuals such as yourself who troll. I wonder what happened to you to make you this way.

Apologies if you actually believe whatever it is you are posting.

It's a strategy to try and get someone to say something, either off the cuff or out of frustration, that can be taken out of context for future arguments. It's the play they use when their primary approach has failed.

Professor Moriarty

Captain Obvious wrote: »

It's a strategy to try and get someone to say something, either off the cuff or out of frustration, that can be taken out of context for future arguments. It's the play they use when their primary approach has failed.

Apart from 2 Scoops, there aren't any pro-Trump posters of substance who visit the thread regularly. Which is a shame really.

Captain Obvious

Professor Moriarty wrote: »

Apart from 2 Scoops, there aren't any pro-Trump posters of substance who visit the thread regularly. Which is a shame really.

His core base isn't actually that big and his actions are quite often indefensible. Logical pro Trump arguments don't really exist.

Quin_Dub

Mod Note

To no one's surprise, Gunther1979 will not be returning.

Professor Moriarty

Captain Obvious wrote: »

His core base isn't actually that big and his actions are quite often indefensible. Logical pro Trump arguments don't really exist.

No. Once you get past the superficial there's nothing. A bit of Obama this and libtard that and then nothing at all.

dr.fuzzenstein

Professor Moriarty wrote: »

Apart from 2 Scoops, there aren't any pro-Trump posters of substance who visit the thread regularly. Which is a shame really.

There's still Manic who I find quite even handed.

Professor Moriarty

dr.fuzzenstein wrote: »

There's still Manic who I find quite even handed.

True. Not sure he's a bona fide Trump supporter though.

Captain Obvious

Professor Moriarty wrote: »

True. Not sure he's a bona fide Trump supporter though.

People in the military have a loyalty that isn't easy to discard. Trump is the Commander in Chief and he has thrown money at the military and got rid of those silly burdensome requirements that were in place to protect individual soldiers. I remember it being brought up before. Delight over being able to do actual training rather than a sensitivity course. They got immediate reward from Trump. Many are now starting to move away though. He's assaulting the military on all fronts. Politicising it to the extreme. He spent Thanksgiving calling deployed troops to rant about judges and say how great he was. He has zero respect for the military.

Captain Obvious

Captain Obvious wrote: »

He spent Thanksgiving calling deployed troops to rant about judges and say how great he was.

Made the call from his golf resort too.