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2018 Woman's World Cup (London)

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    #242
    munster87
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    Have Holland been hammering everyone?


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    #243
    Mr.Nice Guy
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    Despite the two semi-finals being competitive, and despite Ireland's defeated opponents Spain today beating Australia 3-1 - who the Dutch needed a shootout to beat - the revisionist narrative now is going to be that little, plucky Ireland were always going to be outmatched by the superior Dutch outfit.

    It's a nice comforting story but it's nonsense. We choked on the big stage. Facts are facts. You don't need to be Roy Keane to realise there's nothing to take out of this performance. But sure let's sing the Fields of Athenry and give a hero's reception to a team that got thrashed. And people wonder why we don't reach World Cup Finals too often.

    'It is better to walk alone in the right direction than follow the herd walking in the wrong direction.'



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    #244
    Gonad
    Registered Users Posts: 654 ✭✭✭Gonad


    Mr.Nice Guy wrote: »
    Despite the two semi-finals being competitive, and despite Ireland's defeated opponents Spain today beating Australia 3-1 - who the Dutch needed a shootout to beat - the revisionist narrative now is going to be that little, plucky Ireland were always going to be outmatched by the superior Dutch outfit.

    It's a nice comforting story but it's nonsense. We choked on the big stage. Facts are facts. You don't need to be Roy Keane to realise there's nothing to take out of this performance. But sure let's sing the Fields of Athenry and give a hero's reception to a team that got thrashed. And people wonder why we don't reach World Cup Finals too often.

    No more mister nice guy !


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    #245
    cdeb
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    munster87 wrote: »
    Have Holland been hammering everyone?
    Mostly


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    #246
    The Lost Sheep
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    munster87 wrote: »
    Have Holland been hammering everyone?
    In 3 group games they scored 26 conceded 2. Their quarter and semi finals were close affairs


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    #247
    Cork Boy 53
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    YFlyer wrote: »
    Should be this song.


    Are Aqua not a Danish band?


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    #248
    Mr_Man2121
    Registered Users Posts: 442 ✭✭Mr_Man2121


    munster87 wrote: »
    Have Holland been hammering everyone?

    They scored 26 goals in the 3 group stage game


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    #249
    pjohnson
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    Mr.Nice Guy wrote: »
    Despite the two semi-finals being competitive, and despite Ireland's defeated opponents Spain today beating Australia 3-1 - who the Dutch needed a shootout to beat - the revisionist narrative now is going to be that little, plucky Ireland were always going to be outmatched by the superior Dutch outfit.

    It's a nice comforting story but it's nonsense. We choked on the big stage. Facts are facts. You don't need to be Roy Keane to realise there's nothing to take out of this performance. But sure let's sing the Fields of Athenry and give a hero's reception to a team that got thrashed. And people wonder why we don't reach World Cup Finals too often.

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    #250
    The Lost Sheep
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    Mr.Nice Guy wrote: »
    Despite the two semi-finals being competitive, and despite Ireland's defeated opponents Spain today beating Australia 3-1 - who the Dutch needed a shootout to beat - the revisionist narrative now is going to be that little, plucky Ireland were always going to be outmatched by the superior Dutch outfit.

    It's a nice comforting story but it's nonsense. We choked on the big stage. Facts are facts. You don't need to be Roy Keane to realise there's nothing to take out of this performance. But sure let's sing the Fields of Athenry and give a hero's reception to a team that got thrashed. And people wonder why we don't reach World Cup Finals too often.
    Care to explain and show these facts. We always were going to be outmatched. Dutch have only twice ever not been to a semi final. Sixth successive final. We didnt at all choke. We over achieved in getting to this level.


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    #251
    riffmongous
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    Mr.Nice Guy wrote: »
    Despite the two semi-finals being competitive, and despite Ireland's defeated opponents Spain today beating Australia 3-1 - who the Dutch needed a shootout to beat - the revisionist narrative now is going to be that little, plucky Ireland were always going to be outmatched by the superior Dutch outfit.

    It's a nice comforting story but it's nonsense. We choked on the big stage. Facts are facts. You don't need to be Roy Keane to realise there's nothing to take out of this performance. But sure let's sing the Fields of Athenry and give a hero's reception to a team that got thrashed. And people wonder why we don't reach World Cup Finals too often.

    How is it revisionist? Who said beforehand Ireland had a great chance of winning?


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    #252
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    pjohnson wrote: »
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    I love you :D


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    #253
    ShamoBuc
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    The girls played as well was they could.
    There is a level of a difference between us and the Dutch.
    The Dutch have a record infinitely better than the All Blacks in rugby, a bit of perspective.


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    #254
    cdeb
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    ShamoBuc wrote: »
    The girls played as well was they could.
    There is a level of a difference between us and the Dutch.
    The Dutch have a record infinitely better than the All Blacks in rugby, a bit of perspective.
    Talking about perspective when using the phrase "infinitely better" :)


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    #255
    gordongekko
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    https://twitter.com/Shane_RossTD/status/1026128829633490945?s=19

    Anyone see the tweet from this clown. Fecking flute would be better off making sure this team was probably funded rather than blackmailing the government into the granny grant. He's some neck going to the match


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    #256
    Skid X
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    I don't know if I will ever again see an Irish team in a World Cup Final in anything.

    An amazing achievement, hopefully they can build on this and qualify for the Olympics


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    #257
    Cork Boy 53
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    The Lost Sheep wrote: »
    Care to explain and show these facts. We always were going to be outmatched. Dutch have only twice ever not been to a semi final. Sixth successive final. We didnt at all choke. We over achieved in getting to this level.

    In actual fact I believe the Dutch were the ones who had accusations of choking against them when they lost the Olympic final in Rio in a shootout.


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    #258
    Cork Boy 53
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    gordongekko wrote: »
    https://twitter.com/Shane_RossTD/status/1026128829633490945?s=19

    Anyone see the tweet from this clown. Fecking flute would be better off making sure this team was probably funded rather than blackmailing the government into the granny grant. He's some neck going to the match

    Much the same as Charlie Haughey showing up on the victory podium on the Champs Elysees in 1987 when Stephen Roche won the Tour de France.


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    #259
    Strazdas
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    ShamoBuc wrote: »
    The girls played as well was they could.
    There is a level of a difference between us and the Dutch.
    The Dutch have a record infinitely better than the All Blacks in rugby, a bit of perspective.

    No disgrace at all to lose to them in that manner. That would have been the equivalent of Scotland against the All Blacks or Iceland against Brazil in a WC final. The Dutch would have beaten anyone in the tournament comfortably today.


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    #260
    Tar.Aldarion
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    Dutch team are paid professionals that train 6 days a week up to 3 times a day, have won nearly 60% of ALL the world cups, have all the top scores in the tournament, conceded only 3 goals when a few of their players have scored 30+ and it's a really popular sport with their youth but hey yeah Ireland did poorly with their players having to get funding from some random charity part of a software company and getting to the final, the first time Ireland have done so in any sport at the adult level. Italy lost 12-1 and are better rated than Ireland. Well done to them today and to keep fighting until the end.


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    #261
    ShamoBuc
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    Only 5 other countries have gotten to the final before, unreal effort by the girls.


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    #262
    Try_harder
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    Well done on the silver medal Ireland Women Hockey Team


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    #263
    riffmongous
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    Great to see McFerran getting recognised with goalkeeper of the tournament


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    #264
    Strazdas
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    riffmongous wrote: »
    Great to see McFerran getting recognised with goalkeeper of the tournament

    It's almost slightly forgotten how phenomenal she was in the two shoot outs....she played a huge part in getting Ireland through to the final


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    #265
    riffmongous
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    Strazdas wrote: »
    It's almost slightly forgotten how phenomenal she was in the two shoot outs....she played a huge part in getting Ireland through to the final

    Won't be forgotten for very long I think, watching the afters on BT Sport now and the Irish team are being treated as winners


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    #266
    Storm 10
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    Unreal how RTE did not show the winners getting the Trophy, typical, well done Ireland


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    #267
    steinbock123
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    I don’t know much about hockey I’ll admit. Ireland were great. But you have to bear in mind it was amateurs, (and more or less self-funded at that) against full time professionals.
    Also, is it just me, or did George Hamilton appear to know little or nothing about the actual game of hockey at all?? Very little mention of rules or why fouls were given etc.? As I say, I don’t know much about the nuances of the game, but I think I could have done just as well as he did. Very bland commentary. Has RTE no one more clued in they could have sent?


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    #268
    Strazdas
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    riffmongous wrote: »
    Won't be forgotten for very long I think, watching the afters on BT Sport now and the Irish team are being treated as winners

    Fully deserved too. We shouldn't be hung on today's scoreline (makes no difference whether you lose 1-0 or 6-0), the real story is what they achieved in the tournament. Those girls are history makers in Irish sport, the only team that can top that now is one which goes on to win a World Cup.


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    #269
    Cork Boy 53
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    steinbock123 wrote: »
    I don’t know much about hockey I’ll admit. Ireland were great. But you have to bear in mind it was amateurs, (and more or less self-funded at that) against full time professionals.
    Also, is it just me, or did George Hamilton appear to know little or nothing about the actual game of hockey at all?? Very little mention of rules or why fouls were given etc.? As I say, I don’t know much about the nuances of the game, but I think I could have done just as well as he did. Very bland commentary. Has RTE no one more clued in they could have sent?

    Apparently not. I don't think he was sent anywhere by the way. As far as I know George and the other person on commentary duty with him were doing it from the RTE studio.


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    #270
    Cork Boy 53
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    ShamoBuc wrote: »
    The girls played as well was they could.
    There is a level of a difference between us and the Dutch.
    The Dutch have a record infinitely better than the All Blacks in rugby, a bit of perspective.

    The Dutch have a better record in rugby than the All Blacks? News to me.


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    #271
    The Lost Sheep
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    Cork Boy 53 wrote: »
    Apparently not. I don't think he was sent anywhere by the way. As far as I know George and the other person on commentary duty with him were doing it from the RTE studio.
    Yeah certainly looked like it especially with some of the comments by George during the game.
    Cork Boy 53 wrote: »
    The Dutch have a better record in rugby than the All Blacks? News to me.
    :rolleyes: You got the point shamo was making. Dutch record in womens hockey is far better than NZs in rugby.


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