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The Weird, Wacky and Awesome World of the NFL - General Banter thread V3

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    #3992
    jack presley
    Closed Accounts Posts: 13,687 ✭✭✭✭jack presley


    Remind me next season to just stick to the games around weeks 10 and 11 next season and avoid all pre-game shows and podcasts as this 'salute to service' stuff is driving me mad.


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    #3993
    j8wk2feszrnpao
    Closed Accounts Posts: 6,438 ✭✭✭j8wk2feszrnpao


    It was a PR stunt by the NFL, and by Kap. He’s just ensured that he’s out of the league permanently, and I’m now glad he is.
    He took the money from the NFL (and not the 10’s of millions his team tried to spin). He wants to work in the NFL, but not by theirs rules (which is fine, but just p!ss off if you don’t and do some real activism).
    The NFL is the 32 owners (as much as we may wish it wasn’t). It’s their league. Their rules. It sucks, but either abide or move on, like others have to do in their jobs.


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    #3994
    Foxtrol
    Registered Users Posts: 11,097 ✭✭✭✭Foxtrol


    munstermagic11 wrote: »
    It was a PR stunt by the NFL, and by Kap. He’s just ensured that he’s out of the league permanently, and I’m now glad he is.
    He took the money from the NFL (and not the 10’s of millions his team tried to spin). He wants to work in the NFL, but not by theirs rules (which is fine, but just p!ss off if you don’t and do some real activism).
    The NFL is the 32 owners (as much as we may wish it wasn’t). It’s their league. Their rules. It sucks, but either abide or move on, like others have to do in their jobs.

    What rules? There are no rules or precedent for how in-season workouts will go.

    Strange but not surprising how many of the same fans that complain when the NFL enforce actual 'rules' in other situations that has impact on their team but now tell Kaep to blindly accept them here.


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    #3995
    Podge_irl
    Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 25,750 Mod ✭✭✭✭Podge_irl


    munstermagic11 wrote: »
    It was a PR stunt by the NFL, and by Kap. He’s just ensured that he’s out of the league permanently, and I’m now glad he is.
    He took the money from the NFL (and not the 10’s of millions his team tried to spin). He wants to work in the NFL, but not by theirs rules (which is fine, but just p!ss off if you don’t and do some real activism).
    The NFL is the 32 owners (as much as we may wish it wasn’t). It’s their league. Their rules. It sucks, but either abide or move on, like others have to do in their jobs.

    He has been doing "real activism" for years.


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    #3996
    eagle eye
    Registered Users Posts: 37,753 ✭✭✭✭eagle eye


    Podge_irl wrote:
    He has been doing "real activism" for years.
    Was he or was it a stunt to raise his profile? I'm not so sure.


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    #3997
    The_Honeybadger
    Registered Users Posts: 4,155 ✭✭✭The_Honeybadger


    He has apparently donated millions to organisations that work on the issues that he was protesting over. I don’t think it was about profile.


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    #3998
    j8wk2feszrnpao
    Closed Accounts Posts: 6,438 ✭✭✭j8wk2feszrnpao


    Podge_irl wrote: »
    He has been doing "real activism" for years.
    At this stage, I believe he's doing it for himself. Maybe he believed in the cause at one stage, but it's about him now. And that's fine. But I'm not buying his bs any longer. If he didn't want to work out for the NFL, fine. But the stage show, done deliberately at the last moment..... that was him doing a runner from his potential employer. That's not someone serious about getting back into the league.


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    #3999
    The_Honeybadger
    Registered Users Posts: 4,155 ✭✭✭The_Honeybadger


    munstermagic11 wrote: »
    At this stage, I believe he's doing it for himself. Maybe he believed in the cause at one stage, but it's about him now. And that's fine. But I'm not buying his bs any longer. If he didn't want to work out for the NFL, fine. But the stage show, done deliberately at the last moment..... that was him doing a runner from his potential employer. That's not someone serious about getting back into the league.

    He shouldn’t have agreed to the workout if he was going to do that. It was a real two fingers to the NFL, even if many people are querying their motives what he did was wrong.

    It would be a brave (or stupid) franchise that would bring his circus to town at this stage. He may feel he is being unfairly shut out but by god he has not helped himself.


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    #4000
    Big Pussy Bonpensiero
    Registered Users Posts: 7,776 ✭✭✭Big Pussy Bonpensiero


    jack presley wrote: »
    Remind me next season to just stick to the games around weeks 10 and 11 next season and avoid all pre-game shows and podcasts as this 'salute to service' stuff is driving me mad.

    A load of propaganda bs. Even hate the sight of the camo towels/hoodies.


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    #4001
    thomond2006
    Registered Users Posts: 45,433 ✭✭✭✭thomond2006


    Big Pussy Bonpensiero wrote: »
    A load of propaganda bs. Even hate the sight of the camo towels/hoodies.

    All about normalising the military in people's minds.
    It's grim.


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    #4002
    helimachoptor
    Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 21,648 Mod ✭✭✭✭helimachoptor


    thomond2006 wrote: »
    All about normalising the military in people's minds.
    It's grim.

    on redzone they were asking viewers to join the write a letter campaign to talk to our serving members, seems very in your face this year


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    #4003
    Christy42
    Registered Users Posts: 7,879 ✭✭✭Christy42


    helimachoptor wrote: »
    on redzone they were asking viewers to join the write a letter campaign to talk to our serving members, seems very in your face this year

    They have to keep their (main?) advertising partner happy.


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    #4004
    helimachoptor
    Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 21,648 Mod ✭✭✭✭helimachoptor


    Christy42 wrote: »
    They have to keep their (main?) advertising partner happy.

    Looked like they pay around 6M a year, but it doesnt go to every team.

    https://www.cheatsheet.com/money-career/amount-money-military-gives-nfl.html/


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    #4005
    Blut2
    Registered Users Posts: 2,944 ✭✭✭Blut2


    The military isn't the NFL's main advertising partner by a long shot. The military ties are mostly because the NFL fan-base skews white, male and conservative:
    Of people who identified themselves as part of the NFL fan base 83 percent were white, 64 percent were male, 51 percent were 45 years or older, only 32 percent made less than $60,000 a year, and, to finish the point, registered Republicans were 21 percent more likely to be NFL fans than registered Democrats.

    http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/2014/05/30/nfl-last-sports-bastion-of-white-male-conservatives/

    The US is, by and large, extremely pro-military - to a degree that most Europeans who haven't lived there never understand. But the NFL fan-base is even more so again. So they very much approve of all the military support/showiness at games.


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    #4006
    MileHighGuy
    Registered Users Posts: 1,700 ✭✭✭MileHighGuy


    The CFL Western Conference Final ended on a bizarre play at the weekend, which led me to this absolutely crazy end to a game....if you ever needed proof that the CFL is very different from the NFL.....

    Background...if you miss a kick in the CFL )with the posts at the front of a 20 yard deep endzone, and it goes over the end line, you still get a single point....so even missing a kick can win you the game.....except, the defending team can field the attempt and try to run the missed kick to avoid the "rouge" (single point score) .... which leads to this type of madness



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    #4007
    jack presley
    Closed Accounts Posts: 13,687 ✭✭✭✭jack presley


    Bonkers.


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    #4008
    PIORUN
    Registered Users Posts: 397 ✭✭PIORUN


    MileHighGuy wrote: »
    The CFL Western Conference Final ended on a bizarre play at the weekend, which led me to this absolutely crazy end to a game....if you ever needed proof that the CFL is very different from the NFL.....

    Background...if you miss a kick in the CFL )with the posts at the front of a 20 yard deep endzone, and it goes over the end line, you still get a single point....so even missing a kick can win you the game.....except, the defending team can field the attempt and try to run the missed kick to avoid the "rouge" (single point score) .... which leads to this type of madness

    thats numberwang!


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    #4009
    Realt Dearg Sec
    Registered Users Posts: 10,839 ✭✭✭✭Realt Dearg Sec


    Could you warn us if you're putting up videos of Marc Trestman? Was in the middle of breakfast.


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    #4010
    PerrinV2
    Moderators, Computer Games Moderators Posts: 6,331 Mod ✭✭✭✭PerrinV2


    What sort of madness is that!


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    #4011
    Foxtrol
    Registered Users Posts: 11,097 ✭✭✭✭Foxtrol


    Gronk's 'big announcement' is that he'll be hosting a beach party before the Super Bowl.

    Though most of the rumours of him returning sounded like pure hope than any actual signs that he would, I'm happy for him that he is staying retired. Even though he believes he has cured his CTE he shouldn't put his body through any more damage.


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    #4012
    Realt Dearg Sec
    Registered Users Posts: 10,839 ✭✭✭✭Realt Dearg Sec


    Foxtrol wrote: »
    Gronk's 'big announcement' is that he'll be hosting a beach party before the Super Bowl.

    Though most of the rumours of him returning sounded like pure hope than any actual signs that he would, I'm happy for him that he is staying retired. Even though he believes he has cured his CTE he shouldn't put his body through any more damage.

    I look forward to many more years of his terrible, terrible pre game analysis on Fox.


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    #4013
    Foxtrol
    Registered Users Posts: 11,097 ✭✭✭✭Foxtrol


    Realt Dearg Sec wrote: »
    I look forward to many more years of his terrible, terrible pre game analysis on Fox.

    He looked like a deer in headlights at several points when they turned to him on Sunday. Definitely makes more sense as a TV gameshow or kids show host than adding any analysis value, though it isn't as if those pre-game shows add much of that anyway.

    He's a smart business man though (or at least listens to the advice of smart business men). He continues to talk out of both sides of his mouth regarding retirement so that people actually pay attention to each of his 'big announcements'.


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    #4014
    letowski
    Registered Users Posts: 3,119 ✭✭✭letowski


    For people who love good offensive linemen play.

    Check out this Quenton Nelson blitz pickup on Sunday.

    https://twitter.com/BrandonThornNFL/status/1196903437700665349


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    #4015
    jack presley
    Closed Accounts Posts: 13,687 ✭✭✭✭jack presley


    I preferred this block


    https://twitter.com/nfluk/status/1197462704467988480?s=21


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    #4016
    VillaMad
    Registered Users Posts: 1,159 ✭✭✭VillaMad


    https://twitter.com/AdamSchefter/status/1197580939104325633


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    #4017
    me89
    Registered Users Posts: 1,620 ✭✭✭me89


    VillaMad wrote: »
    https://twitter.com/AdamSchefter/status/1197580939104325633

    Hmmm...

    Why only say it now and not at the time? If he's making this up and using the race card to get out of a suspension I hope the NFL add on a few more games.


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    #4018
    KrustyUCC
    Registered Users Posts: 6,034 ✭✭✭KrustyUCC


    Hmmm a very serious accusation which Rudolph has denied

    I do wonder why it's taken Garret so long to say that?

    Why wait until an appeal?

    Even that unacceptable word doesn't excuse Garret from swinging a helmet at Rudolphs head

    If I'm Rudolph the I'm now pressing charges on Garret seeing as he's accusing Rudolph of something he didn't do
    *from Rudolphs point of view. I don't know what he did or didn't say*


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    #4019
    OOnegative
    Registered Users Posts: 4,834 ✭✭✭OOnegative


    VillaMad wrote: »
    https://twitter.com/AdamSchefter/status/1197580939104325633

    Bull****, you acted like a thug Garrett take your punishment like a man and deal with it.


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    #4020
    Realt Dearg Sec
    Registered Users Posts: 10,839 ✭✭✭✭Realt Dearg Sec


    VillaMad wrote: »
    https://twitter.com/AdamSchefter/status/1197580939104325633

    Insert "i don't believe you" gif here


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    #4021
    jack presley
    Closed Accounts Posts: 13,687 ✭✭✭✭jack presley


    The Rudolf situation is gas.

    After the game: Garrett's a coward
    A few days later when the Steelers PR team have gotten to him: Privilege to play in the NFL, honour to represent the Rooney family, no ill will to Myles Garrett.

    It's laughable that they think anyone believes he wrote one word of that statement.


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