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Dublin city marathon 28/10/2018

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    #602
    M.m.m.
    Closed Accounts Posts: 115 ✭✭M.m.m.


    M.m.m. wrote: »
    If the rumours are to be believed and they allow transfers then yes but so far I havn't seen anything solid put in place. It won't be that many places if it happens, they'll be very hard to come by.
    RayCun wrote: »
    they have said that they will be operating a refund system this year, with runners able to sell their places back to the marathon and those places then being resold. They haven't released any details yet.


    Sorry meant to say refunds not transfers but actually nobody knows yet if it will be one or both since nothing has happened yet


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    #603
    Djoucer
    Closed Accounts Posts: 620 ✭✭✭Djoucer


    We do know.

    Jim Aughney has said: “If people enter now and then find they can’t run for any reason, we will give them their money back taking only a small administration fee. We will then open up entry again with those numbers.”


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    #604
    M.m.m.
    Closed Accounts Posts: 115 ✭✭M.m.m.


    Djoucer wrote: »
    We do know.

    Jim Aughney has said: “If people enter now and then find they can’t run for any reason, we will give them their money back taking only a small administration fee. We will then open up entry again with those numbers.”


    and what about transfers, are they allowing you to defer entry to next year?


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    #605
    RayCun
    Registered Users Posts: 15,704 ✭✭✭✭RayCun


    M.m.m. wrote: »
    and what about transfers, are they allowing you to defer entry to next year?

    I think it's pretty clear. If you have bought an entry for the 2019 marathon, and decide that you can't run it, you can sell your entry back to the organisers.
    They will resell the entry.

    They are not (based on what has been said so far) facilitating transfers. You can't say you want to give your place to your mate, or sell your place to someone else for a higher price. You return your entry, and DCM will resell it.

    They are not organising deferrals, because what is the point? If you want to enter the 2020 race, you can buy an entry in November of this year.


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    #606
    M.m.m.
    Closed Accounts Posts: 115 ✭✭M.m.m.


    RayCun wrote: »
    I think it's pretty clear. If you have bought an entry for the 2019 marathon, and decide that you can't run it, you can sell your entry back to the organisers.
    They will resell the entry.

    They are not (based on what has been said so far) facilitating transfers. You can't say you want to give your place to your mate, or sell your place to someone else for a higher price. You return your entry, and DCM will resell it.

    They are not organising deferrals, because what is the point? If you want to enter the 2020 race, you can buy an entry in November of this year.


    There must be some point to deferring entry, other marathons and races do it. It exists for some reason.


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    #607
    RayCun
    Registered Users Posts: 15,704 ✭✭✭✭RayCun


    M.m.m. wrote: »
    There must be some point to deferring entry, other marathons and races do it. It exists for some reason.

    Because other races don't have guaranteed entry.


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    #608
    Djoucer
    Closed Accounts Posts: 620 ✭✭✭Djoucer


    All that is left is for M.m.m to complain that the marathon is too long given they must be close to running out of things to complain about at this stage.


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    #609
    M.m.m.
    Closed Accounts Posts: 115 ✭✭M.m.m.


    RayCun wrote: »
    Because other races don't have guaranteed entry.


    Neither does this if for some reason you dont enter on time. You highlight that fact every chance you get Ray and give out about people not entering on time. Such a moaner. :rolleyes:


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    #610
    M.m.m.
    Closed Accounts Posts: 115 ✭✭M.m.m.


    Djoucer wrote: »
    All that is left is for M.m.m to complain that the marathon is too long given they must be close to running out of things to complain about at this stage.


    I havnt complained about one thing. Name one thing I complained about?
    Seriously.


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    #611
    Djoucer
    Closed Accounts Posts: 620 ✭✭✭Djoucer


    M.m.m. wrote: »
    Neither does this if for some reason you dont enter on time. You highlight that fact every chance you get Ray and give out about people not entering on time. Such a moaner. :rolleyes:

    No race gaurantees entry if you don’t enter on time. Lol.

    This has to be trolling. Fair play.


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    #612
    M.m.m.
    Closed Accounts Posts: 115 ✭✭M.m.m.


    Djoucer wrote: »
    No race gaurantees entry if you don’t enter on time. Lol.

    This has to be trolling. Fair play.


    Lol...go back over Rays posts through the years. You'll see umpteen people saying they never entered some race on time because they forgot or were sidetracked with life etc. Then you see Ray saying I told you so.


    Anyway the point is that deferrals are there for convenience for people and yes some dont enter on time and it may well be their reason to use such a transaction.


    If you see trolling in that then fair play.


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    #613
    RayCun
    Registered Users Posts: 15,704 ✭✭✭✭RayCun


    M.m.m. wrote: »
    Neither does this if for some reason you dont enter on time.

    if you don't apply for a deferral in time then you can't defer.

    If you turn up too late on the morning of the race then you won't be able to run...


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    #614
    El CabaIIo
    Closed Accounts Posts: 354 ✭✭El CabaIIo


    I'm not sure what the big deal is with deferrals? If you enter London and get a place in the lottery and defer the entry, you still have to pay for both years. It just means you don't go through the lottery process again. London doesn't even do transfers or refunds.

    In Dublin, there isn't a lottery so why do you need to defer?


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    #615
    M.m.m.
    Closed Accounts Posts: 115 ✭✭M.m.m.


    El CabaIIo wrote: »
    I'm not sure what the big deal is with deferrals? If you enter London and get a place in the lottery and defer the entry, you still have to pay for both years. It just means you don't go through the lottery process again. London doesn't even do transfers or refunds.

    In Dublin, there isn't a lottery so why do you need to defer?


    Nobody is saying its a big deal, original question was asking if there was deferral. Other races besides London do deferrals at no extra charge by the way


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    #616
    Djoucer
    Closed Accounts Posts: 620 ✭✭✭Djoucer


    M.m.m. wrote: »
    Nobody is saying its a big deal, original question was asking if there was deferral. Other races besides London do deferrals at no extra charge by the way

    How are you not getting this?

    It’s the case that Dublin offers guaranteed entry.

    If you can’t run next year, you can get a refund.

    You can then use that refund for guaranteed entry the following year. It’s better than a deferral.


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    #617
    El CabaIIo
    Closed Accounts Posts: 354 ✭✭El CabaIIo


    M.m.m. wrote: »
    Nobody is saying its a big deal, original question was asking if there was deferral. Other races besides London do deferrals at no extra charge by the way

    Which ones? Any of the big marathons I've entered and tried to defer have always wanted payment for both years. Berlin for instance, Chicago and New York and Boston don't offer defferals, neither does Rotterdam(where you have to buy insurance to cover entry in case you can't make it but that only entitles you to a refund). Amsterdam and Manchester don't cover deferrals either. In fact outside of Berlin and London(huge lottery entries) where you have to pay twice, I haven't heard of any race which offers deferrals at no extra cost or at all.


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    #618
    M.m.m.
    Closed Accounts Posts: 115 ✭✭M.m.m.


    El CabaIIo wrote: »
    Which ones? Any of the big marathons I've entered and tried to defer have always wanted payment for both years. Berlin for instance, Chicago and New York and Boston don't offer defferals, neither does Rotterdam(where you have to buy insurance to cover entry in case you can't make it but that only entitles you to a refund). Amsterdam and Manchester don't cover deferrals either. In fact outside of Berlin and London(huge lottery entries) where you have to pay twice, I haven't heard of any race which offers deferrals at no extra cost or at all.


    Is this confined to what other country marathons are doing then in that case lets open a complete can of worms and compare all of the mod cons of them all and have a right aul whinge. :pac:


    I was actually referring to other races within the country but I'm sure if you spend a few hours on google you'd find plenty of marathons that do offer deferrals.


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    #619
    M.m.m.
    Closed Accounts Posts: 115 ✭✭M.m.m.


    Djoucer wrote: »
    How are you not getting this?

    It’s the case that Dublin offers guaranteed entry.

    If you can’t run next year, you can get a refund.

    You can then use that refund for guaranteed entry the following year. It’s better than a deferral.


    Thats quite aggressive, no need for it.
    If you get a free deferral as apposed to a partial refund then the deferral is not only convenient but you also dont have to add more of your own money to pay the fee.

    Here are some examples of deferrals:
    http://www.connemarathon.com/deferrals-and-transfers/
    https://www.rockandroad.ie/refunds-deferrals-and-transfers/
    http://www.corkcitymarathon.ie/entry/
    https://rungalwaybay.com/faqs/


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    #620
    El CabaIIo
    Closed Accounts Posts: 354 ✭✭El CabaIIo


    M.m.m. wrote: »
    Thats quite aggressive, no need for it.
    If you get a free deferral as apposed to a partial refund then the deferral is not only convenient but you also dont have to add more of your own money to pay the fee.

    Here are some examples of deferrals:
    http://www.connemarathon.com/deferrals-and-transfers/
    https://www.rockandroad.ie/refunds-deferrals-and-transfers/
    http://www.corkcitymarathon.ie/entry/
    https://rungalwaybay.com/faqs/

    None of those come at no extra cost though. They all have admin fees added on top like the DCM has too and subtracts from a refund. I'm not even backing up DCM here but I'd prefer a refund than being tied to a race again a year later, you have more freedom with a refund than a deferral. It just doesn't make sense to me to be arguing this point when you have something better already availible.

    This is basically the comparison

    You can get a refunded entry minus admin fees and pay for a new entry the year after if you like with the same option availible again next year.

    You can get a non-refundable entry plus pay extra admin fees if you want to defer until next year. If you don't complete it the next year, your money is gone.

    Outside of a race I desperatly wanted to do that operates a lottery system, I'm taking the refund all day because it has more freedom. This just isn't me backing up DCM, I know I'd personally prefer straight transfers but that comes with admin fees added on top as well. The difference been debated here is whether admin fees should be added on top of an entry or taken off essentially. You end up paying them either way so I'll take the one with freedom.


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    #621
    Working class heroes
    Registered Users Posts: 3,508 ✭✭✭Working class heroes


    I heard when KBC’s time is up M&M sweets are been lined up.
    I also heard they are adding an extre “m” to their name just to be awkward cnuts.

    Racism is now hiding behind the cloak of Community activism.



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    #622
    skyblue46
    Registered Users Posts: 4,807 ✭✭✭skyblue46


    Working class heroes wrote: »
    I heard when KBC’s time is up M&M sweets are been lined up.
    I also heard they are adding an extre “m” to their name just to be awkward cnuts.

    It's a newly launched troll flavour!


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    #623
    M.m.m.
    Closed Accounts Posts: 115 ✭✭M.m.m.


    Working class heroes wrote: »
    I heard when KBC’s time is up M&M sweets are been lined up.
    I also heard they are adding an extre “m” to their name just to be awkward cnuts.
    skyblue46 wrote: »
    It's a newly launched troll flavour!


    Thats very bold behaviour, i hope your mammies know that you're on the computer teasing people about troll flavoured m&m's. I'd give you the rolling pin if I caught you the pair of ye.


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    #624
    Working class heroes
    Registered Users Posts: 3,508 ✭✭✭Working class heroes


    M.m.m. wrote: »
    Thats very bold behaviour, i hope your mammies know that you're on the computer teasing people about troll flavoured m&m's. I'd give you the rolling pin if I caught you the pair of ye.

    I bet you are well used to the rolling pin, matron.

    Racism is now hiding behind the cloak of Community activism.



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    #625
    El CabaIIo
    Closed Accounts Posts: 354 ✭✭El CabaIIo


    I'll get hung for this but fook it...

    Lads, I'm pretty sure m.m.m isn't a troll going by previous a/c's and posts from long ago. There's just beef going on for so long(probably 15 months now) that the whole thing is escalating and getting amplified to stupid levels as it does in this place from time to time. His/her posting style now isn't helping and neither are the other posts from everyone else tbf. I've seen the same thing happen here time and again and it never ends well for anyone. People will blow up, sides will be taken, a/c's will be rageclosed and everyone will be asking why no one posts on A/R anymore or where have all the great old posters gone. Wash, rinse and repeat!


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    #626
    Steve
    Moderators, Category Moderators, Entertainment Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 22,584 CMod ✭✭✭✭Steve


    El CabaIIo wrote: »
    I'll get hung for this but fook it...

    You won't.

    M.m.m. is now on my 'list'

    If you have any mitigating info, my door is open..


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    #627
    tHE vAGGABOND
    Registered Users Posts: 6,686 ✭✭✭tHE vAGGABOND


    From date account reg'd - the tone of the posts and quoting Ray's history, I do wonder if we all met up if some of us may know M.M.M. by another former boards name -one of the gang who threw toys out of pram and left a few years back maybe... :D


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    #628
    mutley18
    Registered Users Posts: 1,231 ✭✭✭mutley18


    I am considering trying to get one of the last 2500 entries for this in July. For those of you who have done it before would you recommend it for a first timer? Is it relatively flat? I have done a few half marathons and would like to attempt a full one!


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    #629
    RayCun
    Registered Users Posts: 15,704 ✭✭✭✭RayCun


    mutley18 wrote: »
    I am considering trying to get one of the last 2500 entries for this in July. For those of you who have done it before would you recommend it for a first timer? Is it relatively flat? I have done a few half marathons and would like to attempt a full one!

    It's the best marathon to do in Ireland.

    There are flatter marathons abroad.

    I wouldn't say Dublin is hilly, but I wouldn't say it is flat either. But I don't think any other Irish marathons are much flatter?


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    #630
    The Black Oil
    Moderators, Category Moderators, Entertainment Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Regional East Moderators Posts: 18,310 CMod ✭✭✭✭The Black Oil


    Read some of the reports around here. iirc, the thinking was the course is set up for a negative split. Has the odd drag in parts.

    Moderator: Television, Psychology and Dublin County North.

    CMod: Entertainment



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    #631
    DULLAHAN2
    Registered Users Posts: 871 ✭✭✭DULLAHAN2


    mutley18 wrote: »
    I am considering trying to get one of the last 2500 entries for this in July. For those of you who have done it before would you recommend it for a first timer? Is it relatively flat? I have done a few half marathons and would like to attempt a full one!

    I ran it last year as my first marathon and really enjoyed it, The crowd were immense. As a first marathon it is a great experience. There are some drags throughout the route.

    I am doing it again this year.


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