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iOS 12 - Developer, public beta and official release

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    #212
    FourFourRED
    Registered Users Posts: 8,540 ✭✭✭FourFourRED


    You could try the steps here but it relies on having the option for slide to power off come up and it may not considering your situation:

    Keep your watch on its charger until you complete these steps.
    Press and hold the side button until you see Power Off.
    Firmly press the Power Off slider, then lift your finger.
    Tap Erase all content and settings.
    Wait for the process to finish, then set up your Apple Watch again. When asked, restore from a backup.

    https://twitter.com/fourfourred



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    #213
    IamMetaldave
    Registered Users Posts: 3,494 ✭✭✭IamMetaldave


    The 12.1 update cleared about 2/3GB of “system” crap off my phone.

    https://www.instagram.com/iammetaldave/



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    #214
    DubDJ
    Registered Users Posts: 5,358 ✭✭✭DubDJ


    FourFourFM wrote: »
    You could try the steps here but it relies on having the option for slide to power off come up and it may not considering your situation:

    Keep your watch on its charger until you complete these steps.
    Press and hold the side button until you see Power Off.
    Firmly press the Power Off slider, then lift your finger.
    Tap Erase all content and settings.
    Wait for the process to finish, then set up your Apple Watch again. When asked, restore from a backup.
    Thanks for that but unfortunately can’t get into anything. I’m gonna let it die and hopefully that sorts it. I’ve never had a problem with Apple stuff in years, but a few months ago the touch digitiser stopped working on my X and now this issue. Having a bad 2018 with Apple stuff.


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    #215
    FourFourRED
    Registered Users Posts: 8,540 ✭✭✭FourFourRED


    Is the watch still under warranty?

    It may need to be sent off to an Apple repair centre to have the OS reinstalled if you don’t have any luck with the power drain trick.

    https://twitter.com/fourfourred



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    #216
    Shn99
    Registered Users Posts: 1,353 ✭✭✭Shn99


    Appears the issue is widespread, expecting the update to be pulled fairly fast


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    #217
    Gumbo
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    Shn99 wrote: »
    Appears the issue is widespread, expecting the update to be pulled fairly fast

    Updating my watch now.
    12.1 went perfect on the phone. Will update if the watch goes mental!


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    #218
    FourFourRED
    Registered Users Posts: 8,540 ✭✭✭FourFourRED


    https://www.macrumors.com/2018/10/30/watchos-5-1-update-bricking-some-apple-watches/

    https://twitter.com/fourfourred



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    #219
    DubDJ
    Registered Users Posts: 5,358 ✭✭✭DubDJ


    Glad to know it wasn’t just my watch that was bricked. I’m unlucky as usually I read about these issues but they never usually affect me.


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    #220
    Gumbo
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    Stuck on Apple logo all night!


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    #221
    FourFourRED
    Registered Users Posts: 8,540 ✭✭✭FourFourRED


    Appears to be only affecting Series 4?

    You may need to have them sent off to Apple

    https://twitter.com/fourfourred



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    #222
    Shn99
    Registered Users Posts: 1,353 ✭✭✭Shn99


    iOS 12.1.1 Developer & Public beta 1 out.


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    #223
    pad199207
    Registered Users Posts: 7,119 ✭✭✭pad199207


    Shn99 wrote: »
    iOS 12.1.1 Developer & Public beta 1 out.

    Hearing all sorts that it’s slowing IPhone 8 and 8 Plus and X down big time.


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    #224
    murpho999
    Registered Users Posts: 28,391 ✭✭✭✭murpho999


    pad199207 wrote: »
    Hearing all sorts that it’s slowing IPhone 8 and 8 Plus and X down big time.

    From whom?

    Had beta on iPhone 8 for weeks and it's perfect.


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    #225
    FourFourRED
    Registered Users Posts: 8,540 ✭✭✭FourFourRED


    murpho999 wrote: »
    From whom?

    Had beta on iPhone 8 for weeks and it's perfect.

    They’re referring to 12.1.1 Beta 1 I believe, which came out Wednesday

    https://twitter.com/fourfourred



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    #226
    pad199207
    Registered Users Posts: 7,119 ✭✭✭pad199207


    FourFourFM wrote: »
    They’re referring to 12.1.1 Beta 1 I believe, which came out Wednesday

    Yeah mainly comments from Facebook yesterday. People saying that Apple are “throttling” batteries with the update. Maybe im reading them wrong.


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    #227
    peteeeed
    Registered Users Posts: 13,563 ✭✭✭✭peteeeed


    i have it downloaded on my ipad and its fine , haven't downloaded it on my xs max i wait for beta 3 or so for that


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    #228
    murpho999
    Registered Users Posts: 28,391 ✭✭✭✭murpho999


    FourFourFM wrote: »
    They’re referring to 12.1.1 Beta 1 I believe, which came out Wednesday
    pad199207 wrote: »
    Yeah mainly comments from Facebook yesterday. People saying that Apple are “throttling” batteries with the update. Maybe im reading them wrong.

    Have it installed too and no problems.

    I wouldn't put too much faith in Facebook comments. Why would Apple 'throttle' batteries in an update on one year old phones.

    People are just convinced that Apple have a deliberate obsolescence programme which is not true.


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    #229
    FourFourRED
    Registered Users Posts: 8,540 ✭✭✭FourFourRED


    murpho999 wrote: »
    Why would Apple 'throttle' batteries in an update on one year old phones.

    They admitted that they did this with the 6s & 6s Plus in January 2017’s 10.2.1 update.

    It was enabled in iOS 12.1 for the X, 8 & 8 Plus.

    They only difference this time around is you have the option to turn it off in settings.
    Adds a performance management feature to prevent the device from unexpectedly shutting down, including the option to disable this feature if an unexpected shutdown occurs, for iPhone X, iPhone 8 and iPhone 8 Plus.

    Depending on usage, some people may have already drained their battery down below the 80% capacity by now on last years devices.

    https://twitter.com/fourfourred



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    #230
    DubDJ
    Registered Users Posts: 5,358 ✭✭✭DubDJ


    I think the confusion from above could be coming from Apple offering the ‘throttling’ feature that has been happening on older iPhones now on the iPhone X and 8/8 Plus.

    https://www.theverge.com/circuitbreaker/2018/10/31/18047174/iphone-x-8-plus-performance-throttling-battery-management-ios-12-1-update


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    #231
    murpho999
    Registered Users Posts: 28,391 ✭✭✭✭murpho999


    FourFourFM wrote: »
    They’re referring to 12.1.1 Beta 1 I believe, which came out Wednesday
    FourFourFM wrote: »
    They admitted that they did this with the 6s & 6s Plus in January 2017’s 10.2.1 update.

    It was enabled in iOS 12.1 for the X, 8 & 8 Plus.

    They only difference this time around is you have the option to turn it off in settings.



    Depending on usage, some people may have already drained their battery down below the 80% capacity by now on last years devices.

    Yes but it's not really obsolescence but sensible battery management imho.

    Apple were trying to do the right thing but made a mess of communicating it.


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    #232
    Shn99
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    I have an X on 100% battery health. This isn’t going to effect me is it?


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    #233
    FourFourRED
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    murpho999 wrote: »
    Yes but it's not really obsolescence but sensible battery management imho.

    Apple were trying to do the right thing but made a mess of communicatinig it.

    Yep I agree.

    It makes sense to prevent shutdowns by throttling performance.

    Giving people the choice is better however.

    https://twitter.com/fourfourred



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    #234
    FourFourRED
    Registered Users Posts: 8,540 ✭✭✭FourFourRED


    Shn99 wrote: »
    I have an X on 100% battery health. This isn’t going to effect me is it?

    Correct. Until you get below 80% you might start seeing unexpected shutdowns unless you enable performance management in settings.

    https://twitter.com/fourfourred



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    #235
    DubDJ
    Registered Users Posts: 5,358 ✭✭✭DubDJ


    Right before iOS 12 my battery health on my X was at 98%. Now it’s down to 92% and was the same around 4 weeks ago when I checked. Big drop for me recently.


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    #236
    FourFourRED
    Registered Users Posts: 8,540 ✭✭✭FourFourRED


    DubDJ wrote: »
    Right before iOS 12 my battery health on my X was at 98%. Now it’s down to 92% and was the same around 4 weeks ago when I checked. Big drop for me recently.

    The same happened to me. I don’t think it dropped by 6% that quick I think it wasn’t reporting accurately up to that point.

    It was in beta until 12.0 released - which probably explains it.

    https://twitter.com/fourfourred



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    #237
    DubDJ
    Registered Users Posts: 5,358 ✭✭✭DubDJ


    FourFourFM wrote: »
    The same happened to me. I don’t think it dropped by 6% that quick I think it wasn’t reporting accurately up to that point.

    It was in beta until 12.0 released - which probably explains it.
    Yeah sorry I didn’t check right before and after I installed. But a few weeks before it had been at 98% and a few days after iOS 12 it was showing the lower amount.

    Not sure if that’s down to software, maybe it wasn’t as accurate before the update. I have been using it very heavily the last few weeks though so that could contribute a little too. Still though, it was holding steady at 98% for months before the update dropped.


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    #238
    FourFourRED
    Registered Users Posts: 8,540 ✭✭✭FourFourRED


    DubDJ wrote: »
    Yeah sorry I didn’t check right before and after I installed. But a few weeks before it had been at 98% and a few days after iOS 12 it was showing the lower amount.

    Not sure if that’s down to software, maybe it wasn’t as accurate before the update. I have been using it very heavily the last few weeks though so that could contribute a little too. Still though, it was holding steady at 98% for months before the update dropped.

    The iPhone battery is designed to retain up to 80% of its original capacity at 500 complete charge cycles.

    That’s from their website.

    So it suggests that 98% after around 10 months of use or whatever, probably wasn’t accurate. Unless you’re getting 2/3 days out of a full charge.

    https://twitter.com/fourfourred



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    #239
    DubDJ
    Registered Users Posts: 5,358 ✭✭✭DubDJ


    No as I said I’m a heavy user most days and I’d just barely scrape by getting to 12am/1am. It comes off charge at 7.30am so I’d get a decent amount of usage.

    It is the one area I’d love to see significant improvements. Maybe a day and a half battery so no matter how much you might be using the phone it would last throughout the day.


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    #240
    peteeeed
    Registered Users Posts: 13,563 ✭✭✭✭peteeeed


    Beta 2 is out


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    #241
    peteeeed
    Registered Users Posts: 13,563 ✭✭✭✭peteeeed


    Beta 3 is out


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