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Tommy Robinson jailed

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    #1442
    WinnyThePoo
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,417 ✭✭✭WinnyThePoo


    Snake Plisken wrote: »
    Really Billy? Care to elaborate? Or is it just snide remarks calling out re-reg without any proof?

    Pretty easy to figure out.


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    #1443
    Billy86
    Closed Accounts Posts: 23,495 ✭✭✭✭Billy86


    Snake Plisken wrote: »
    Really Billy? Care to elaborate? Or is it just snide remarks calling out re-reg without any proof?
    Oh no, not at all. I'm sure a poster with a particular posting style and leanings just disappears every few months to be magically replaced by a new one a week later on a constantly rotating basis.

    So what are your thoughts on Tommy/Steve's defense and harboring of pedophiles, and the numerous of pedophiles prevalent in the group he created (including the co-founder and very prominent members)? There's been a bit of radio silence from you and the boys on that one.


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    #1444
    Captain Obvious
    Registered Users Posts: 4,165 ✭✭✭Captain Obvious


    I see the champions of the victims are a lot less bothered when the child abuser is homegrown and the coverup is by the anti Muslim crowd.


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    #1445
    Tipsy McSwagger
    Registered Users Posts: 9,065 ✭✭✭Tipsy McSwagger


    wes wrote: »
    Google who the BNP were. Look into there politics. Its not hard to google stuff, you need to do some leg work yourself. I am not here to spoon feed you.

    You can also read the thread for examples of his racism.

    Show the examples, actually one would do.


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    #1446
    Snake Plisken
    Registered Users Posts: 12,440 ✭✭✭✭Snake Plisken


    Billy86 wrote: »
    Oh no, not at all. I'm sure a poster with a particular posting style and leanings just disappears every few months to be magically replaced by a new one a week later on a constantly rotating basis.

    So what are your thoughts on Tommy/Steve's defense and harboring of pedophiles, and the numerous of pedophiles prevalent in the group he created (including the co-founder and very prominent members)? There's been a bit of radio silence from you and the boys on that one.

    Still not sure who this poster is please provide the original user name.
    As for the EDL pedo absolutely all pedos need to be prosecuted but I'm sure if the UK authorities have proof they would be arrests straight away as no one can throw the race anti Islam defence at them like they did with the Pakistani pedo gangs and let widespread abuse go on for years.
    It's quite sad to see you and the boys look in Glee at one known pedo and use that as something to be happy about.
    I would be interested to hear Tommy's views on the EDL case but alas he is in jail at the moment. I'm sure he would condem it as he isn't a member of the EDL as you know. Anyway back to the mud slinging.


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    #1447
    Omackeral
    Registered Users Posts: 32,956 ✭✭✭✭Omackeral


    wes wrote: »
    He (Ali) dropped the racism
    wes wrote: »
    Stephen Yaxley-Lennon is a racist. FFS, he was a member of the BNP

    Not possible for both of them to drop being racist no? Why only one?


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    #1448
    FTA69
    Registered Users Posts: 9,252 ✭✭✭FTA69


    There was another march for Robinson yesterday in central London, around 5,000 people which was significant drop in numbers on the ones previous but still very substantial. Speakers included various right-wing figures from Britain and Europe, the white supremacists of Generation Identity were also present getting clapped and cheered on by the crowds.

    More disturbingly, members of the RMT trade union (including good friends of mine) were set upon by a mob of around 30 football hooligan types while in a pub in Westminster. Steve Hedley, the assistant general secretary was glassed in the face and two women were beaten as well, all having to go to hospital. I'd seen a load of scum milling about so myself and others had skipped off via Green Park before it happened.

    https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2018/jul/14/police-tell-trump-supporters-not-to-gather-at-us-embassy

    This is the real face of these scumbags, for all their moaning about Islamists and paedophiles, the people they chose to attack were trade unionists. This is basically what the far right do - use issues of concern to promote themselves and then violently attack their opponents. We're definitely in worrying times.


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    #1449
    thebull85
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,030 ✭✭✭thebull85


    FTA69 wrote: »
    We're definitely in worrying times.


    And you are only realising this now?

    I kinda started realising this when Europe was getting hit with multiple islamic terror attacks.

    But its taken 30 football hooligans attacking people for you think we are in worrying times?

    hahaha

    Get of the bleeding stage will you.


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    #1450
    FTA69
    Registered Users Posts: 9,252 ✭✭✭FTA69


    thebull85 wrote: »
    And you are only realising this now?

    I kinda started realising this when Europe was getting hit with multiple islamic terror attacks.

    But its taken 30 football hooligans attacking people for you think we are in worrying times?

    hahaha

    Get of the bleeding stage will you.

    Yeah and for all the crying about terrorists and paedos the people your mates attacked were working class British and Irish trade unionists; two women were hospitalised.

    That’s the core of the people behind this sh*t, women bashing c*nts. Is that the sort of company you want to be in?


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    #1451
    Captain Obvious
    Registered Users Posts: 4,165 ✭✭✭Captain Obvious


    thebull85 wrote: »
    And you are only realising this now?

    I kinda started realising this when Europe was getting hit with multiple islamic terror attacks.

    But its taken 30 football hooligans attacking people for you think we are in worrying times?

    hahaha

    Get of the bleeding stage will you.


    Nobody defends Islamic terrorists though. We disagree on the causes and the solutions but we see it as wrong. We also consider fundamental Islam to be wrong. And I think we all recognize the issues it causes. So why can't you do the same with white nationalism?


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    #1452
    batgoat
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,423 ✭✭✭batgoat


    thebull85 wrote: »
    And you are only realising this now?

    I kinda started realising this when Europe was getting hit with multiple islamic terror attacks.

    But its taken 30 football hooligans attacking people for you think we are in worrying times?

    hahaha

    Get of the bleeding stage will you.
    Eh, how about Jo Cox? The murderer was a far right nationalist. She was the first politician assassinated in UK in 30 years. Or how about terrorist Anders Breivik? He's pretty much in line with the political stances of Tommy. You're trying to minimise far right nationalists who are incredibly dangerous and have killed plenty in past few years.


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    #1453
    thebull85
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,030 ✭✭✭thebull85


    FTA69 wrote: »
    Yeah and for all the crying about terrorists and paedos the people your mates attacked were working class British and Irish trade unionists; two women were hospitalised.

    That’s the core of the people behind this sh*t, women bashing c*nts. Is that the sort of company you want to be in?

    Did you not think we were in worrying times when innocent people were getting squashed by trucks in Nice and Berlin and young kids getting blown in up in Manchester? I didnt see you mention it then.

    But when something happens to people you know, apparently we are in worrying times only now.


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    #1454
    thebull85
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    Captain Obvious wrote: »
    Nobody defends Islamic terrorists though. We disagree on the causes and the solutions but we see it as wrong. We also consider fundamental Islam to be wrong. And I think we all recognize the issues it causes. So why can't you do the same with white nationalism?

    Are you likening islamic slaughter of innocent people in Europe to a few slaps getting thrown at a rally yesterday?


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    #1455
    Captain Obvious
    Registered Users Posts: 4,165 ✭✭✭Captain Obvious


    thebull85 wrote: »
    Are you likening islamic slaughter of innocent people in Europe to a few slaps getting thrown at a rally yesterday?


    There you go again. Deflecting the point and minimising the actions. All I asked was for you to condemn the violence and ideology of white nationalism.


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    #1456
    thebull85
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,030 ✭✭✭thebull85


    Captain Obvious wrote: »
    Nobody defends Islamic terrorists though. We disagree on the causes and the solutions but we see it as wrong. We also consider fundamental Islam to be wrong. And I think we all recognize the issues it causes. So why can't you do the same with white nationalism?

    Whenever i see white nationalist terrorism ill come on here and say its wrong ok?


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    #1457
    batgoat
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    thebull85 wrote: »
    Did you not think we were in worrying times when innocent people were getting squashed by trucks in Nice and Berlin and young kids getting blown in up in Manchester? I didnt see you mention it then.

    But when something happens to people you know, apparently we are in worrying times only now.

    How about the gunning down of children and teens by a far right nationalist extremist? You're intent on defending people who are behaving like nazi goons. There's plenty of photos of Sieg Heil gestures from yesterday btw but you ignore this as it suits you to. This is common for Tommy rallies.


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    #1458
    thebull85
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,030 ✭✭✭thebull85


    Captain Obvious wrote: »
    There you go again. Deflecting the point and minimising the actions. All I asked was for you to condemn the violence and ideology of white nationalism.

    I also think there is a difference between white nationalists and people who dont want to see the demographic drastically changed. Do you see a difference?


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    #1459
    thegreengoblin
    Registered Users Posts: 2,091 ✭✭✭thegreengoblin


    The state of this wanker. Apparently he's a restaurant owner. Imagine how he treats his staff...

    https://twitter.com/SoniaGallegoAJE/status/1018151468925444096


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    #1460
    batgoat
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    thebull85 wrote: »
    I also think there is a difference between white nationalists and people who dont want to see the demographic drastically changed. Do you see a difference?

    And they bring their goal about by beating people and being rather racist? So far they just sound like hateful thugs.


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    #1461
    thebull85
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,030 ✭✭✭thebull85


    batgoat wrote: »
    How about the gunning down of children and teens by a far right nationalist extremist?

    Are you really expecting me to say i agree with something like that?

    Violence against innocent people is wrong, no matter who it is doing it.


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    #1462
    batgoat
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    thebull85 wrote: »
    Are you really expecting me to say i agree with something like that?

    Violence against innocent people is wrong, no matter who it is doing it.

    You're happily minimising it and ignoring that some pretty far right nationalist attacks have occurred. One of which involved the murder of a British politician.


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    #1463
    Captain Obvious
    Registered Users Posts: 4,165 ✭✭✭Captain Obvious


    thebull85 wrote: »
    Whenever i see white nationalist terrorism ill come on here and say its wrong ok?


    That's not what I asked though.

    thebull85 wrote: »
    I also think there is a difference between white nationalists and people who dont want to see the demographic drastically changed. Do you see a difference?


    Not much of one.


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    #1464
    FTA69
    Registered Users Posts: 9,252 ✭✭✭FTA69


    thebull85 wrote: »
    Did you not think we were in worrying times when innocent people were getting squashed by trucks in Nice and Berlin and young kids getting blown in up in Manchester? I didnt see you mention it then.

    But when something happens to people you know, apparently we are in worrying times only now.

    Obviously I do think the rise in Islamic terrorism is worrying, unlike you I live in a city where it is a problem.

    However, if the Tommy brigade are so concerned about the rise of Salafist Islam then why are they attacking trade unionists? And it wasn't "a few slaps" as much as you'd like to trivialise it, it was women getting their ribs broken and women getting glassed in the face.

    That's the company you're keeping mate.


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    #1465
    thebull85
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,030 ✭✭✭thebull85


    FTA69 wrote: »
    Obviously I do think the rise in Islamic terrorism is worrying, unlike you I live in a city where it is a problem.

    However, if the Tommy brigade are so concerned about the rise of Salafist Islam then why are they attacking trade unionists? And it wasn't "a few slaps" as much as you'd like to trivialise it, it was women getting their ribs broken and women getting glassed in the face.

    That's the company you're keeping mate.


    And have you a source to back up this story about women being glassed and having their ribs broke?


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    #1466
    thebull85
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,030 ✭✭✭thebull85


    Captain Obvious wrote: »
    There you go again. Deflecting the point and minimising the actions. All I asked was for you to condemn the violence and ideology of white nationalism.

    I condemn white nationalism and violence against innocent people.


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    #1467
    batgoat
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    thebull85 wrote: »
    I condemn white nationalism and violence against innocent people.

    You're clearly minimising it. You would be singing from the rooftops if Muslims perpetrated what occurred yesterday...


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    #1468
    thebull85
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,030 ✭✭✭thebull85


    batgoat wrote: »
    You're clearly minimising it. You would be singing from the rooftops if Muslims perpetrated what occurred yesterday...

    What exactly occured yesterday? and provide sources..

    Dont link up about the union leader getting attacked ive read it and nowhere does it say anything about women being glassed and having their ribs broke.


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    #1469
    thebull85
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,030 ✭✭✭thebull85


    batgoat wrote: »
    And they bring their goal about by beating people and being rather racist? So far they just sound like hateful thugs.

    That was a group of 30 im being told, there were around 5 thousand at the march, you're not tarring them all with the same brush are you?


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    #1470
    thebull85
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,030 ✭✭✭thebull85


    Captain Obvious wrote: »
    There you go again. Deflecting the point and minimising the actions. All I asked was for you to condemn the violence and ideology of white nationalism.

    Captain are you not going to ask FTA69 for a source to back up his story? Or do you only look for sources from people you disagree with?


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    #1471
    FTA69
    Registered Users Posts: 9,252 ✭✭✭FTA69


    https://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/news/uk-world-news/fascist-tommy-robinson-supporters-attack-12920784

    Also I know Brigid and know she went to the hospital after getting a chair bounced off her, I don't know the woman who was glassed but she was released from hospital yesterday evening which is good. Steve himself gives an account of what happened above in the video.

    So why do you think these lads attacked Irish trade unionists? After all they're just normal people who are anti paedo gangs aren't they?


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